View Full Version : Correct pigment information and the proper use of the word Hue

03-05-2005, 11:15 AM
I'm not a member of the Oil pastel society but one of the things that could be done to promote OP as a serious art form is to demand more accurate product labeling.

Most of my OPs are Sennelier, with a few Craypas and Neos in the mix. My favorite by far is the Sennelier - I truly love their creamy texture and colors but their labeling not always accurate. I was surprised when I realized this; Sennelier has reputation for high standards and I would expect them to know better :confused:

The Cobalt should actually be labeled as Cobalt Hue, since pigment PB29 is not really cobalt [PB28] , but the less inexpensive Ultramarine. I love the color but it would have been nice to know what I was getting when I bought it rather than wait until I got home to pore through my pigment guide. The same for their Viridian. I truly love this deep cool green but the pigment used, PG7 is Phathlo green, not the more expensive PG18 [pigment used in true viridian ] This should have been called Viridian Hue.

To give credit to Craypas Specialists, they make accurate use of the term Hue, but their tendency to use more than one pigment in many of their sticks results in colors that aren't quite as pure as single pigment sticks. [IMHO] As far as the Neos by Caran d'Ache, absolutely NO pigment information is offered so I don't plan to buy any more of this brand.

Am I being too picky here?

Peace to all,


03-05-2005, 11:59 AM
if you can get hold of a Caran D'ache Neopastel leaflet it lists all 96 colours plus their pigments, lightfastness and which colours you get in which box size
Sharon :cat:

03-05-2005, 06:29 PM
Hi Virginia!
There is also a brochure availavle for download from CdA website which addresses your questions exactly. Maybe that's exactly the same one as Sharon had got with her set.
the product's page
link to the file directly

03-06-2005, 06:31 AM
the Van Gogh pastel leaflet also lists the pigments used in their oil pastels.
Sharon :cat:

03-11-2005, 11:07 PM
I don't think you're being picky at all. Accurate product identification should be important to all manufacturers, especially those who want to further the use of their product as fine art quality.

Have you contacted the company about the proper labeling of their oilpastels in regards to pigments used? I've found that Sennelier is very open to hearing what the artists have to say about their products.

I guess I'm not as concerned about what the label says since I take it off and toss it as soon as I get home. I don't check for names or numbers because I choose by sight when I purchase open stock. I paint the same way...and after a few paintings, each color has a uniqueness about it that is easy to recognize. And "when in doubt, check it out" :)