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imperess
02-08-2005, 08:33 AM
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the portrait classroom on " The Nose!".
Sorry this is a day late , I had to push to get it up today! As i came down with a cold this weekend.
Anyway I Haven't taught anything of this nature before and dont consider my self a nose expert so be patient with me.

Here it is....... :o ta da!

The Nose

The nose is the prominent part of our face. It allows us to smell and also filters the air we breath. It is both an internal and external organ. As artists we are focused on the external portion of the nose. The External nose is supported primarily by cartilage and fatty tissue. It has a mid-line divider called the nasal septum that extends from the internal nose, nostrils in which tiny guard hairs grow filtering the air we breath, and the columella, the strip of skin separating the nostrils.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-externalnose.jpg


I have heard some people say that the nose is one of the most difficult features to draw on the face, next to the ears, of course. I believe this is because of the subtle lights and shadows that make up the 3 dimensional form of the nose. When drawing the nose there are a few general things to keep in mind. First would be the position of the nose. When drawing the nose from the full face front view, or view, the bottom of the nose generally lines up half way between the eyes and the chin. In my experience the edge of the nostril normally lines up with the inside of the eye or the tear duct.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-frontal-face.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34view.jpg

For profile view the bottom of the nose is generally still halfway between the eyes and chin. The edge of the nostril however, in most cases, will line up with the the inside of the eye brow.

Noses come in all shapes and sizes so of course there are always exceptions
to these rules. But all in all they are great general proportion guidelines.

Keep in mind that it is a 3d object made up of cartilage and bone as well as fatty tissue and skin. But don't let this get in the way of your drawing.


There are a few places on the nose that you can generally expect to be in shadow or light.

Generally the tip of the nose will have light or a bright highlight and the underside of the nose (columella and nostrils) will be in shadow. There will also generally be shadow on one side of the nose ( left or right) depending on where the light source is coming from. Usually light can also be found on the upper part of the septum between the eyes.

All of this aside, I'd say best advice I have gotten for drawing the nose is to think of the nose in terms of light and shadow. In otherwords, DRAW WHAT YOU SEE NOT WHAT YOU THINK YOU MAY SEE.. really look, and focus on the shapes you see that make up the nose your drawing. The shapes of the lights and darks will help you to make the nose the 3d object that it is. It also helps to relieve some of the overwhelming feelings that some beginners feel when attempting to draw a facial feature such as the nose or the ear. Don't think of it as a nose think of it as lights and darks.

imperess
02-08-2005, 10:18 AM
Drawing the nose demonstrations.


I did some quick demos of how I go about drawing/painting various noses.
I have tried to show each example in a different medium. I think regardless of medium the most important things to observe when drawing or painting a nose is SHAPE, ANGLES and of course light and shadow. I try to keep these things in mind when I go about creating a nose.



Frontal Nose View (Pastel)


This is my reference Photo


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo0.jpg


The first thing I do is a quick sketch in pastel pencil of the basic shape and lights and shadows I see. I like to work on tinted paper and at this stage keep it fairly loose. Establishing where my main darks will be.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo.jpg

The next thing I do is try to get some mid tone color in there! So i begin to work in some peachy colors.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo1.jpg

After this the next thing is to blend if your a blender like me. I also start to add in some cool colors in the shadows and more lights.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo2.jpg

I keep adding more lights and more darks and so on ...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo3.jpg


untill i get to what i feel is the finished nose!!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-nosefrontdemo4.jpg

I admit I am not entierly happy with this nose and the likeness to the reference but it does serve its purpose.


The Profile Nose (watercolor)


Now I will be the first to tell you that watercolor is not my best medium. I find it to be one of the most challenging mediums available. However, I thought that a small demo in watercolor might be of help to some, especially those just starting out. So i did a quick wip for you. I am sure some of the watercolorists out there might have better techniques to offer, but this is how I go about it.

Reference

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-profilenosedemo1.jpg


Again a quick light sketch to get the general placement , angles and contours of my subject. I like to keep it really loose and draw lightly so that my sketch has less of a chance to show after I am finished with it. I have darkend it for you to see.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-profilenosedemo2.jpg


After I have the basic placement I go in and refine the contours a bit and then I start to put in my shadows and lights. In this case because the girl has warm undertones i decided to use yellow ocher. I block in a few of the bright white places with some liquid frisket and take the plunge keeping my paper damp in order to blend the various shadows together. Towards the end I also used some violet shade mixed with some yellow ocher. Looks really ugly now but thats ok :)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-profilenosedemo3.jpg


After this drys I erase the frisket and begin to layer in some reds over top of the ocher and continue to deepen the shadows.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-profilenosedemo4.jpg

After this I keep adding darks, untill I feel its finished. I also put in a darker blue background color.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-profilenosedemo5.jpg

3/4 View nose (Acrylics)

Reference

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34noseexamp.jpg


Again a Quick Sketch. Then begin to put in my darks and mid tones. I like to do a monochormatic under painting most of the time when i work in acrylics. It allows me to make changes easier so I can get things right before I start glazing in the color. In this under painting I used burnt umber, white and utramarine blue.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34noseexamp1.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34noseexamp2.jpg

When I am satisfied with the under painting I start glazing in the color.
A picture of the first glaze layer. (sorry it took kind of dark :mad: )

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34noseexamp3.jpg

I keep adding glaze layers alternating between glaze layers and opaque paint until I am finished. I wait until the end before I add final highlights and small details

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2005/46639-34noseexample.jpg
Finally the finished piece!

imperess
02-08-2005, 10:19 AM
I'll post part 2 tomorrow so please stay tuned!


~Carol :clap: :clap:

eileenclaire
02-08-2005, 11:53 AM
Anyway I Haven't taught anything of this nature before and dont consider my self a nose expert so be patient with me.



Carol, after seeing this fantastic demo, there is no doubt in my mind that you can be considered a nose expert! It is a difficult feature to render, but your clear explanation and images really help in understanding the anatomy.

Thanks so much for putting this together!

Can't wait to see part 2!!!

Judi1957
02-08-2005, 12:29 PM
Thanks Carol!
Great demo! :clap: :clap:

leesmith
02-08-2005, 12:59 PM
great nose tutorial! All of these facial "feature" tutorials are really helpful..

imperess
02-09-2005, 03:16 AM
The Nose part 2



Differences in noses between ethnicities.

Some people have asked that facial features include some discussion about ethnic differences. Regardless of racial extraction noses come in ALL shapes and sizes so the differences may not hold true in all instances, but I am going to try my best to discuss the main differences in the nose I see between ethnicities. If any one has anything to add on this please feel free to do so!

The Caucasian Nose

The Caucasian nose is usually fairly pronounced . In most Caucasian people i have observed it sticks out from the face a bit. It's normally upturned, pointy or round in shape depending on the person. The width of the nose is normally not wide although i have seen exceptions.

The Asian Nose

The Asian nose is generally flatter against the face. Its septum area is usually less pronounced than in Caucasian and African noses. I have also observed that it is normally wider than the Caucasian nose.

The African Nose

People of African descent generally have rounder noses than the Asians. There nose can be flatter against the face or it can be more prominent . The African nose is generally wider, less prominent and less angular than the Caucasian nose.

The Latin Nose

I think Latin noses vary the most in shape and size. They can be pointy , or round . They can be wide or thin. They can be very pronounced or less pronounced. They can have a bump or be smooth. I have seen many variations on Latin noses.


Children's Noses

I am going to talk about the location of the nose on a child.

I was planning on doing a demonstration of a child's nose if enough are interested in it.

Children's noses are different than adults. As we grow our nose grows. Children do not have the amount of cartilage in their nose that an adult does. This is why if you look at a baby it will have a flatter less prominent nose than a 5 year old. Their noses are less pronounced, shorter, and more upturned than an adults.

For babies the nose is generally located half way between the brow and the bottom of the chin.




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-babyexample.jpg

For older children the same rule as for adults, way between the pupils and chin seems to work. Or you can divide the head into 7ths and with 1/ 7th being the bottom lip 2/7ths should give you the nose placement.



I hope this classroom has helped some of you.

I'll post some reference noses for you to draw. Lets See Your noses!

imperess
02-09-2005, 03:33 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-2071smile.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-10059letha_a__grubbs-med.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-11324jenport.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-36204Picture_092.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-41008grayscale_1_copy.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-41107Smile_Anna_-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-43781ellie.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-AA037731.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-AX046721.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-bldar060704016.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2005/46639-dv1091064.jpg

peoplepainter
02-09-2005, 10:55 AM
What an incredible class! You have outdone yourself, cold and all. Your demos are superb and your photo resources are great. WOW! You are an incredible artist as well as a nose expert.
Great job! I'll keep checking back...

Lisa

sultry
02-09-2005, 12:03 PM
Sorry this is a day late , I had to push to get it up today! As i came down with a cold this weekend.
Anyway I Haven't taught anything of this nature before and dont consider my self a nose expert so be patient with me.
Hi Carol & I do agree you have an outstanding tutorial, despite fighting a cold. This facial feature has always been such a hard subject for me the "dreaded nose" I used to always put two dots, then a pig nose, now it seems my sketches of noses always have a way of taking over the whole portrait, not in a good way either. lol

So, I will be following this closely and doing every step by step you have wonderfully displayed.

So, far Eileen all your facial teachers are A1 in really showing the how to in each subject. Thank you again for gettng this rolling. :) :clap: I think I will be able to get my daughters nose to look more like her nose then a pigs. lol

mothsailor
02-09-2005, 12:33 PM
What a wonderful job you have done. Many hours of work must have gone into this. Thanks very much for doing it. :clap: :clap:

Terry Wynn
02-09-2005, 03:14 PM
Thank you for your hard work. This is an excellent primer for learning the intricacies of painting noses. I truly appreciate the hard work you have invested in making this so clear and the fact that you rendered noses in various media.

Each of the studies (mouth, eye, nose) have been top notch!

Thanks to each for all the hard work involved.

Terry

Pars
02-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Can't agree more. This is such a thorough and absorbing lesson.

I do have a wee question. In the watercolour demonstration, you mentioned frisket but I didn't completely understand when and where you applied it. Just an aspirant, but I hadn't thought to mask.

Thank you, thank you.

What an incredible class! You have outdone yourself, cold and all. Your demos are superb and your photo resources are great. WOW! You are an incredible artist as well as a nose expert.
Great job! I'll keep checking back...

Lisa

imperess
02-10-2005, 01:21 AM
Can't agree more. This is such a thorough and absorbing lesson.

I do have a wee question. In the watercolour demonstration, you mentioned frisket but I didn't completely understand when and where you applied it. Just an aspirant, but I hadn't thought to mask.

Thank you, thank you.


hi,

as for the frisket,

I just put it on right after i do a quick sketch , before i do the first cupple washes if color so that i can easily preserve my whites. I love it its really great stuff! I used it on the highlight above the nostril and on the eye just where I knew my brightest whites would be.

imperess
02-10-2005, 01:28 AM
everyone!

I am so glad your enjoying this turtorial! Glad to know that the noses rendered in various mediums have helped some.

Why don't some of you try posting some nose sketches. If your having any dificultys please post what you have and I can try to give helpful advice :) If any one has any other questions please ask and i'll do my best to respond.


Can't wait to see some noses !

~Carol

DLGardner
02-10-2005, 11:51 AM
Excellent demo Carol! Thank you so much! You have put a lot of time and hard work into this. A fine teacher! Lots of information to absorb. I'll be back. Thanks.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Dianne

SonyaT
02-10-2005, 01:39 PM
Great lesson :clap: ...so can anyone join in? I am trying to get back into pencil art again and its really rough...

Oh yeah I am new also as you can tell...

red_ironoxide
02-10-2005, 07:13 PM
here's some of my practice noses.....i really should have taken a break when i started drawing little alien babies.

imperess
02-10-2005, 09:37 PM
wow those are great practice sketches red_ironoxide !!

the 3d ness of the top right one is really nice. Don't worrie about the alien babies LOL I think that happens to us all every now and then.

But really this is great your lighting and angles are wonderfull!

Thanks for posting some noses,

~Carol

kordelia
02-11-2005, 02:43 PM
Carol, this is a wonderful tute, thank you so much.... i have to copy it for reading later, but scanning thru... :clap: :clap: i DO have to attach the following however; i have had this plaster nose for over 30 years!! just recently my mother noticed it near the puter, with: whatEVer are you going to do with THAT!!!??" and, packrat that i am, told her, i've only had it 30 years, i'll find SOMEthing to do with it eventually........... and here we are!!

30 years in the making: whenever anyone would say O Who Knows!, i had trained my kidz to say: Da NOSE Knows!!!.............. so here you have DA NOSE in all his glory... see my hand for size comparison... on the last one, i have no idea how my camera did this artsy shot, but i'm taking credit for it!!
(painted noses to follow soon, as they say: just follow your nose!) :wink2:
(groan.....)

imperess
02-11-2005, 09:18 PM
Carol, this is a wonderful tute, thank you so much.... i have to copy it for reading later, but scanning thru... :clap: :clap: i DO have to attach the following however; i have had this plaster nose for over 30 years!! just recently my mother noticed it near the puter, with: whatEVer are you going to do with THAT!!!??" and, packrat that i am, told her, i've only had it 30 years, i'll find SOMEthing to do with it eventually........... and here we are!!

30 years in the making: whenever anyone would say O Who Knows!, i had trained my kidz to say: Da NOSE Knows!!!.............. so here you have DA NOSE in all his glory... see my hand for size comparison... on the last one, i have no idea how my camera did this artsy shot, but i'm taking credit for it!!
(painted noses to follow soon, as they say: just follow your nose!) :wink2:
(groan.....)


WOW!!!! WHAT A NOSE LOL that is a great sculpture i think its wonderfull. Can't wat to see your painted noses. That scuplted one is way cool did you take a mold off a giants nose or somthing LOL! looks very real. Your very brave if you did ..


Thanks for sharing it with us.

~Carol

artbabe21
02-12-2005, 05:16 PM
Carol!! We are so grateful for this lesson & thank you for taking the time to provide us with this excellent information!! It's so helpful all these lessons, heck, pretty soon we'll be able to put a face together! I LOVE this classroom idea! Eileen, my thanks again for all the work making this happen!! :) :D ;)

eileenclaire
02-12-2005, 05:28 PM
Great lesson :clap: ...so can anyone join in? I am trying to get back into pencil art again and its really rough...

Oh yeah I am new also as you can tell...


Welcome here, Sonya :) . Yes, please do join in. We'd love to see what you come up with, and you'll get lots of support in this forum. Here's a link for posting your work if you need info on how to do that:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/44487/496/

Jet
02-18-2005, 05:03 AM
Carol, this is a great idea and excellent tutorial... :clap:

What I love here -besides the quality in those pieces-, is the fact that you are actually promoting freehand drawing ..serving these demos, as inspiration, roll model and undeniable proof that. one can learn how to draw from scratch, contrary to what many 'modern' artists have been rationalizing lately, stating that drawing is dead, and it's OK to trace and use grids to skip the 'skill' part entirely and, look better (to others) than we really are..

Thanks
Keep it up !!

Regards
:cool:

eileenclaire
02-20-2005, 12:55 PM
Here's my latest nose. After studying this tutorial, I can see I need a lot more work on it.

Jet, let's see your noses :) !

Cathleen, we all owe you many thanks for your gracious moderation of this forum! :clap: :clap:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2005/21757-Emilys_nose.jpg

sultry
02-20-2005, 09:40 PM
Hi Carol and everyone :wave:
I am sorry for being so late in getting these to you Carol. I have been working on a horse for umpteen ages its seems like. lol for Jay D's 101 class 12 (D/S fora) we are drawing animals with a bad hair day.
Anyways, I did the old man you have provided and a couple of studies of noses. Old man pre lim sketch done with a tortillion and then shaded with a F pencil. Other noses done with F pencil & blended with tortillion.
Thanks again for a very informative class. :wave:
edited to add... after uploading them, I also see work I need to do too Eileen, I think your nose looks good to me. lol
My old mans nose looks lopsided to me. :(

imperess
02-21-2005, 03:13 AM
hi every one,



Great NOSES!

sultry--

Your noses are blened well and they look good. very 3d!!Keep up the good work.

eileenclaire--

Great little nose! thanks for posting!!

sorry if i have been slow in posting :) i am currently out of town so my computer access is limited.


~Carol

Jet
02-21-2005, 11:03 AM
Jet, let's see your noses :) !


Eileen Hi!..
My noses are the pits..
but I am following this thread along with a book see if I can improve my drawing in a few weeks (or months?)

these are what I've been doing but I need to get serious about it enough to make a change..

Comments OK
:cool:

sultry
02-21-2005, 05:30 PM
Comments OK
:clap: Jet these look very realistic, did you use charcoal? good job :clap:

Jet
02-21-2005, 06:18 PM
Jet these look very realistic, did you use charcoal? good job
Thanks, Sultry..
-the three on top are done with graphite Derwent's 4B sketching pencil
-the 2 on the bottom have charcoal pencil mixed with the 4B graphite
-the last one has been scanned into PhotoShop, then digitally smudged/smeared to give a fuller appearance.

Thanks for your comments..

Regards
:wave:

eileenclaire
02-23-2005, 08:03 PM
Hi Sultry, I like your noses :) . So you actually drew the sketch with the tortillon? That's an interesting approach.

Jet, your noses are looking good! It is amazing how fast one can progress with just a little practice. I'll look forward to your progress in drawing. :clap:

Silver
03-02-2005, 08:32 AM
This is what WetCanvas is all about i.e. being taught to paint the difficult bits. I really appreciate you taking the time and giving such great demos. I am now enthused and am away to practise.

Fleur
03-07-2005, 03:37 AM
[QUOTE=Jet]Carol, this is a great idea and excellent tutorial... :clap:

What I love here -besides the quality in those pieces-, is the fact that you are actually promoting freehand drawing ..serving these demos, as inspiration, roll model and undeniable proof that. one can learn how to draw from scratch, contrary to what many 'modern' artists have been rationalizing lately, stating that drawing is dead, and it's OK to trace and use grids to skip the 'skill' part entirely and, look better (to others) than we really are..

QUOTE]
Hello!
I'm new to this tutorial but I'm totally in agreement here!
Great demos Carol and you've pushed me into really looking at noses and getting on with them. Here are some of my efforts. Some are better than others, but I guess I still have a long way to go! Next lot I post will hopefully be in colour (my bete noire.... I really struggle with colour!!!)
Thanks very much for this. It's been a very worthwhile exercise. :clap:
Marie-Dom :wave:

dcorc
03-07-2005, 06:30 AM
Just to announce that I've posted the first part of my tutorial in this series, on "Head and Neck Anatomy", at:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255528

Dave

SAM of DE.
03-10-2005, 03:45 PM
Thanks Carol, for the great tutorial! I Didn't feel like breaking out the paints today so just grabbed a pencil and paper. This is just what I needed to get me started on the practice as You can see I really need. Thanks so much , this is something I really want to print out and save.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Mar-2005/21547-noses.jpg

imperess
03-15-2005, 07:23 PM
hey everyone-


I have been away for the last few weeks. I am finally back. Please stand by for a proportions tutorial schedualed for 3 / 21. I am glad you are all getting so much out of this tutorial!!


SAM of DE- Great noses! I would love to see some colored versions when you feel up to it. These sketches are great. Black and white I find though usually bestto start tackling new subjects with. It looks like you paid close attention to the lights and shadows which is the most importaint part. We can always go back and get into color but the values are the most importaint part of creating a belivable rendering. You should defanitly try some color studys next! Please keep up the great work. ::clap::



Fleur-- You have really captured your subjects noses as well! Very beliveable.
I think your also ready to dive into color and would love to see some color attempts. You have already gotton ahold of the most importaint part you noses have an excellent scuptural quality! Don't be afraid to dive in to color, if you remeber to use cool tones in the shadow areas and keep the lighter area's in warm tones and your nose will really POP out! Great job.


thanks for being so great every one!!

~Carol

maria_khurram
03-28-2005, 05:32 AM
Hi Carol. Great work I learned more by this demo.WOW :clap:
I saw the pics also and I will try them so wait for my attatchment. :wink2:

maria_khurram
04-11-2005, 12:49 PM
Here is my contribution. I hope you will like it I made it in about 15 minutes. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Apr-2005/59753-Image-11d_2.jpg

lani noa
08-16-2005, 11:08 PM
This is wonderful, can't thank you enough!

lotsieIvy
04-01-2006, 07:14 PM
this is a very helpful demo. thanks for sharing your knowledge and your talent .
thank you LotsieIvy