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Mikey
01-25-2005, 10:17 AM
I'm wanting to see if the rose grower and me can meet in what we want to see from a painting. Botanists think Redoute is the greatest. I'm going for my own style. I want a creative brush, he wants detail and can the twain ever meet. You see I've started very loose and fast on an especially prepared canvas where I've filled the grain. If nothing else the extra gesso means the paint goes down like a dream. I'm thinking that Byron painting waves could teach me something here, with the way light shines through the petals.

Any comments please.

Spyderbabe
01-25-2005, 03:56 PM
woah ! mommmma! looking GOOD

Mikey
01-25-2005, 04:35 PM
Thanks Kathleen. I seem to be doing better with loose. I'll see how it goes.

Mikey

LisaArt
01-26-2005, 02:46 AM
woah ! mommmma! looking GOOD


Wow, mikey I second that.
Loose is very good...I also like the creative brush... :)

Mikey
01-26-2005, 11:12 AM
Here's a close up. I'm trying to get the texture of the petals.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2005/28043-Tiller_Rose_2_cu.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2005/28043-Tiller_Rose_2.jpg

Spyderbabe
01-26-2005, 11:34 AM
MIkey - which of the two is closer to the original in color?

Mikey
01-26-2005, 11:40 AM
Probably neither. The red on the first is too saturated, so I tried to desaturate the red only, and heighten the lights, but on the browser the second red is way too much desaturated and flat. The pink is also way too violet.

Mikey

Mikey
01-26-2005, 12:51 PM
I think the colour is better now, but not perfect. The lighter tones are too violet.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2005/28043-Tiller_Rose_2_correction.jpg

Gilberte
01-26-2005, 01:18 PM
Oh Mikey you're getting the knack ........

Mikey
01-26-2005, 07:26 PM
Thanks Giberte, although I've got to think it would be better as loose as the local colour. I'll go all the way with it now. The rose grower is sending me some good hi res files to paint.

Mikey

dcorc
01-26-2005, 10:25 PM
This is coming along very nicely - I'm pleased to hear you like the extra gesso on the canvas - I too think this makes a great improvement in the way oils handle.

As you say, the way Byron paints backlit waves is very applicable to getting the sense of translucency of the petals.

This is a great chance to play with edge control - keep most of it soft, and perhaps just introduce the occasional harder edge, at the end, for things you want to bring forward or pull the eye to.

Davre

LisaArt
01-27-2005, 02:43 AM
Mikey!! like that third pic. First close up was good in on my screen.
I can see it coming along. Lots of softness in the petals. Go all the way as you said. You seem more confident with this one. happy to hear you will get some more high res. pics...
The extra gesso on the canvas, seems like a great idea... :wave:

Mikey
01-27-2005, 09:52 AM
Thanks Dave and Lisa. I'm looking forward to doing a painting of the woodland garden itself.

Mikey

Mikey
01-28-2005, 10:43 AM
I'm thinking this is now overworked, but all crits are welcome.

Mikey

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2005/28043-Tiller_Rose_3.jpg