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Lenda
09-17-2004, 08:28 PM
In June 2002 we had a warring states bead challenge, I was wondering if anyone wanted to do another? Here's the link to the Feel Like a War Challange #1 back in June 2003, I think we had fun with it.
Feel Like a War Challenge #1 (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112307&highlight=warring+states)
So, if anyone wants to try to do a warring states bead and post it here, I think it might be fun. So, who's game? I'll try, but I'm out of oxy till Monday!!! :rolleyes: So, show me what you try!!

Alan Cross
09-17-2004, 08:33 PM
Thats a great thread are you going to do dots again?
Alan :)

Lenda
09-17-2004, 08:42 PM
Thats a great thread are you going to do dots again?
Alan :)
Hi Alan. With the warring states thread in the lobby, it reminded me that we did a warring states bead challange, and yes, they're made totally out of dots. There are lots of variations to them, so try what you like!

Alan Cross
09-17-2004, 09:01 PM
Ok I don't do a lot of dots but I will see what I can do for you....
Alan :)

Lenda
09-17-2004, 09:02 PM
Ok I don't do a lot of dots but I will see what I can do for you....
Alan :)
Have fun, its a great exercise for stringer control and dot placement! ;) Good luck!

Alan Cross
09-17-2004, 09:10 PM
LOL thats the trouble I don't have good control so I stay away from those kind of designs.

Alan :)

tamjai
09-17-2004, 10:40 PM
okay - so perhaps i'm clueless but, does a warring states bead have to have protruding layered dots or can they be melted in????? :confused:
go easy on the newbie!
tam

Beth Myers
09-17-2004, 10:42 PM
Do a waring Sofa challange!!!
I loved the sofas.
Beth

tamjai
09-17-2004, 10:44 PM
me being clueless again - what is the 'sofa' thing?????
tam

aimee
09-17-2004, 11:22 PM
What a great older post. You can really see have alot of people have improved in the past year with their overall bead shapes.

Hopefully I'll get to the torch tomorrow and give it a try. I've seen this design before and I'm always stunned by the dot placement and control.

Bob Morey
09-18-2004, 12:01 AM
Remember me Lenda? So you want to have a war do you? Ican do that let me know the particulars. Let's make it a techniqual challenge. No mandrels allowed let say.

AlaskaBarb
09-18-2004, 12:39 AM
Okay, heck, I'll try one. Ready, set -- hey, Lenda, I guess we'll wait till you get your oxygen...

These challenges are the most fun, especially when I'm supposed to be working on something else!

B

Suz01
09-18-2004, 04:34 AM
hey, talk about co-incidence - I made a couple today, as the discussion in the lobby got m einterested too, and I was looking through my History of Beads book, so I already have some to show. Will take pics tomorrow and post. i am quite happy with them, only one or two slightly wonky dots - its quite hard trying to fit all those dots insde a circle isnt it?Suzanne

Lenda
09-18-2004, 08:20 AM
Remember me Lenda? So you want to have a war do you? Ican do that let me know the particulars. Let's make it a techniqual challenge. No mandrels allowed let say.
Hi Bob, of course I remember you. Haven't been to Urbansky chat in ages! :D

Bob, THIS war challenge stems from a discussion about warring states beads we had in the Lobby, perhaps you missed it. I'll include a link to it for you.
Warring States bead thread (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216272)

As far as particulars goes, there are none. You are to make a warring states bead, on mandrel or off, to the best of your capability. Nothing more, nothing less. That's where the technical challenge will come in, every person is at a different level than the next, the challenge comes when you push yourself to do better than you did before. Right?

Tam, warring states can be "horned" with the dots raised, or it can be melted flush, which ever you choose. There are no rules, remember. And, since Beth has confused you with the "sofa thread' (she just wants mine!!:evil: ) here's a link to another challenge we had, and it was a blast.:D
Call for sofa challenge (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82401&highlight=sofa+challenge)
Show of Sofa Challenge (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82691&highlight=sofa+challenge)

Barb, don't wait for me, I won't be able to post till Tuesday and Suzanne already has some done. So post away, let's see those dots! :D

jowell
09-18-2004, 10:18 AM
This sounds like fun I am new at this but I'll try.

Jo L.

Lenda
09-18-2004, 10:25 AM
This sounds like fun I am new at this but I'll try.

Jo L.
Hi Jo L, I don't think I've welcomed you yet! Glad to have you aboard and I can't wait to see what you come up with.:D :wave:

Beth Myers
09-18-2004, 11:02 AM
And, since Beth has confused you with the "sofa thread' (she just wants mine!!:evil: ) here's a link to another challenge we had, and it was a blast.:D
Call for sofa challenge (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82401&highlight=sofa+challenge)
Show of Sofa Challenge (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82691&highlight=sofa+challenge)

:D

YES I DO!!!! :cat: :cat:

Suz01
09-18-2004, 10:45 PM
Ok, here they are - please excuse that i have taken these photos before the beads have been cleaned. And I will be a bit of a piggy (oink oink) as i have photos from different angles (each side is a bit different!)i am loving this style - I think i might have to make them for the favourites exchange!

Suzanne

Lenda
09-19-2004, 08:49 AM
Hey Suzanne! You did a fabulous job on your first warring states! These were your first? Very good job of dot placement and control of melting the dots in. I'm glad that you joined in the challenge. If you do more, please post them! :clap:

If you try them again, try to add another layer of dots on top of the single layers, push yourself even more!:D

snootyvixen
09-19-2004, 10:51 AM
Here's a very informative article (http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/glass.html) on Warring States beads - and eye- and horn-shaped glass beads in general. There are some pictures you can reference at the bottom of the article.

Vikki

Lenda
09-19-2004, 11:09 AM
Here's a very informative article (http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/glass.html) on Warring States beads - and eye- and horn-shaped glass beads in general. There are some pictures you can reference at the bottom of the article.

Vikki
Thanks Vikki. That was a very informative article. Lot's of information about the history of glass I hadn't seen before, really nice pics.

AlaskaBarb
09-19-2004, 04:46 PM
My first bead exploded -- guess the base bead got too cold --
but I liked the second one better anyway.

(It was cold and rainy; I was reading about the Beauty of Loulan and the six-foot tall, fair-skinned warrior women of the steppes between western China and central Asia yesterday.)

I give you ...the Ancient Warring Stately Nipples Bead.

:p

edited to add a hineycon

!Karen
09-19-2004, 04:55 PM
My first bead exploded -- guess the base bead got too cold --
but I liked the second one better anyway.

(It was cold and rainy; I was reading about the Beauty of Loulan and the six-foot tall, fair-skinned warrior women of the steppes between western China and central Asia yesterday.)

I give you ...the Ancient Warring Stately Nipples Bead.

:p

edited to add a hineycon

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Sep-2004/33050-rotflmbo.gif

I LOVE that bead!

snootyvixen
09-19-2004, 05:18 PM
I give you ...the Ancient Warring Stately Nipples Bead.

:p

edited to add a hineycon


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Sep-2004/14836-smiley_marilyn.gif

Vikki

Lenda
09-19-2004, 06:04 PM
Bwahahaha, look at you running for the hiney, you are too much!!!
Great boob bead, I'm assuming for multi tasking Barb? ROTFLMAO!!!

No really, very nice job of multiple layering without them flopping over, I mean that!!! And I must agree, stately it is! It's a shame the first one blew though.:(

Thanks for adding that Barb, I'll try mine tomorrow hopefully!!!:D :D

ShineyObjects
09-20-2004, 08:31 PM
[QUOTE=AlaskaBarb]My first bead exploded -- guess the base bead got too cold --
but I liked the second one better anyway.

(It was cold and rainy; I was reading about the Beauty of Loulan and the six-foot tall, fair-skinned warrior women of the steppes between western China and central Asia yesterday.)

I give you ...the Ancient Warring Stately Nipples Bead.

I was amazed this evening as I was reading an older book, 1969 edition by Erikson, titled "The Universal Bead". The last color photo of a short strand of very old Alaskan trade beads shows a picture of a bead of pearly blue glass with multiple orbs(breast like projections) that looks very much like your bead accept there are no nipples on the tips!
Did a major double take there!!!
-------Mona

jowell
09-21-2004, 01:02 PM
Okay here it is only took me 15 or so (hundred tries) lol .
I was down on my knees praying to the glass gods at one point.

Jo L

Lenda
09-21-2004, 04:43 PM
Okay here it is only took me 15 or so (hundred tries) lol .
I was down on my knees praying to the glass gods at one point.

Jo L
Hi Jo L! You did good girl! Dot placements are one of the more difficult things to do and get the hang of. If you pushed yourself like that to make one and post it, I totally applaude you for it!!!! Keep working on it and it will get easier and easier!! Thanks for trying out the little challenge.:D

I haven't gotten oxy yet, too many things going on for our friend, I've now threatened DH that it had better be TOMORROW!!!:evil: But here's one that I did quite a while ago until I can post a new one. Sorry the pics kinda small.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2004/10665-warringstate5.jpg

Moth
09-22-2004, 11:36 AM
OK! I finally thought I would give one of these a try last night. This is my first one and I really like it. I learned a lot from it.

Things to work on for next time:

I used an amethyst color for the purple dots, but the final dot on top is so small that it looks lighter than the others. Next time, I will use a darker purple for the last dot so that it looks the same. Same for the green. I used medium grass green for all the dots...next time I will use dark grass green for just the last series of green dots.

When melting in the side rows of dots I will concentrate extra heat near the holes so that the little hills of dots melt more outward. I like them how they are, but I think they would be better on a different axis.

The little white dots between would look better with a dot of transparent over them.

Thanks for looking and thanks for the challenge. Who knows how long it would have been before I tried one of these. :)

~~Mary

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2004/24464-wsfronto.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2004/24464-wssideo.jpg

Lenda
09-22-2004, 11:52 AM
Mary, girl, that is a WONDERFUL warring states!!! While you pointed out things you would change the next time, I truthfully don't see a darn thing wrong. It's absolutely wonderful and I'm glad you gave it a shot. But watch out, doing these can become addicting, trying to perfectly place each dot and melting it in because we want to get better and better and better. But I can't see you getting much better, it looks perfect to me. Great job and I'm glad that you joined in on the challenge! :D

ShineyObjects
09-22-2004, 05:49 PM
Ok all of you fabulous lampworkers...it is very intimidating to post a picture of something I have made, when I never knew such a thing existed, what it was called, or what it's history is, until a couple of days ago when I stumbled over your very informative posts and links! I have only been lampworking for about six months, but I have tried a warring states bead! Whatever I have done incorrectly regarding style I would appreciate knowing. I am still learning control! Several views of the same bead are being offered.
--------Mona

mtnbeadz
09-22-2004, 06:11 PM
western China and central Asia yesterday.)

I give you ...the Ancient Warring Stately Nipples Bead.

:p

edited to add a hineycon

I absolutely love it! What to wear it with, though? (very little?)

snootyvixen
09-22-2004, 10:06 PM
OK - I'm ready!

I used Bulleye - first bead is Rose City Marble with cobalt .....

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2004/14836-b040922_warring_states_1.jpg

And here's #2 - Chartreuse Striker, Cobalt and whatever the color is that looks like Moretti pea green LOL! I learned, after making the first one, that you need to put those little trails of dots on right after you lay down the first layer of the 'big" dots, otherwise it's too hard to try and fit them in the itty bitty spaces (or maybe I just drink too much coffee??

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2004/14836-b040922_warring_states_2.jpg

Vikki

Suz01
09-22-2004, 10:26 PM
They certainly are addictive Lenda! I am on a dots kick bigtime now - but have been pulled away from the torch to look after my mum, who just came out of hospital after spinal surgery. So, it will be awhile before I can get to the torch. but i have made the first 4 beads of a new set, which I am loving - i'm not going to 'show' it till it is finished though! I am playing around with colours and have got an interesting 'ancient' look happening.

I am hording sets to make my 'debut' on the bay, so these will join that stockpile.

Suzanne

Lenda
09-23-2004, 08:56 AM
Wow, new challenge beadies!!!

Mona, for only 6 months on the torch, you did a fabulous job. Excellent placement of dots and nice color combination! Great work! As far as incorrectly doing the "style" I'm not really sure if you can do it wrong, but then again I'm no expert as to the warring states. I think they're wonderful. Thanks for doing the challenge!

Vikki!!! Your beads are great, I especially like the pinkie one!! That one has perfect dot control and spacing. And I totally agree with laying the smaller dots inbetween the first large dot layers before they get dimensional! Very nicely done and thanks for joining in.:D

I finally have oxy today, it's only been 6 days now, but DH finally did it for me. So off I go to make a couple for the challenge and maybe some for the bead show. I'll post them tomorrow!

Anyone else up for the challenge?

ShineyObjects
09-23-2004, 10:48 PM
Lenda,
Thank you very much for your warm and encouraging reception of my attempt of this bead style! Hugs, Mona

Lenda
09-24-2004, 10:45 AM
Hi Mona, I'm glad you gave it a whirl and try another! And you're welcome.

I finally made a bead yesterday for the challenge! It's not my best but it's been a while since I've done dots!!! But I love the colors I chose, black white and transparent striking red. I think I melted in the dots too quickly and unlike Barb's bead, mine are a little floppy!;) LOL!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2004/10665-warringstateblack1.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2004/10665-warringstateblack2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2004/10665-warringstateblack3.jpg


Thanks to everyone for trying the challenge and if anyone else wants to try, just post your beads here! I'll be gone for a couple of weeks so I won't be able to comment, but please post anyways!:D

AlaskaBarb
09-28-2004, 05:29 AM
Mary, those were FAB. Did you say in a post not too long ago that you were still on a HH? Unbelievable.

Lenda, you d'MAN. Really -- perfect, of course.

SnootyV, is Rose City Marble a discontinued color, or one from the Streaky-Freaky pack? It looks like what I used for the nipple bead -- but I didn't get any list of what the colors were, just a pack of rods.

If it's from the S-F pack, I say we bombard Bullseye with emails to request they keep making it. It's a great pink.

B

snootyvixen
09-28-2004, 08:43 AM
If it's from the S-F pack, I say we bombard Bullseye with emails to request they keep making it. It's a great pink.

B

Yup - it's from the SFS pack - there are 5 rods in there and they're all different shades of pink! LOL!!! But they're all "Rose City Marble"!

Vikki

beachglassgirl
09-28-2004, 12:35 PM
This got me started on a dots kick and I can't stop!!!! This was the best I could do but I am practicing on keeping the dots round - but these were fun anyway! I always have trouble making sets, I end up with lots of "only child" beads but this made me concentrate. Thanks for the challenge! Excuse the rambling...painkillers kicking in.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Sep-2004/26797-moredots1.jpg

AlaskaBarb
09-28-2004, 05:07 PM
Yup - it's from the SFS pack - there are 5 rods in there and they're all different shades of pink! LOL!!! But they're all "Rose City Marble"!

Vikki

Thanks. I thought so. Man, I love that color. Bullseye will probably only make it if we send them feedback.

I'm also lobbying for Woodland Brown, in rod and stringer. Tired of cutting strips!

B

snootyvixen
09-28-2004, 06:10 PM
Thanks. I thought so. Man, I love that color. Bullseye will probably only make it if we send them feedback.

I'm also lobbying for Woodland Brown, in rod and stringer. Tired of cutting strips!

B

I'll be lobbying for a lot of the colors in the SFS pack! It's turned me into a real BE addict. Can you show some pics of Woodland Brown?

Vikki

AlaskaBarb
09-29-2004, 06:11 AM
Hey, girl! I'm going to PM you, so we don't take the War Challenge too far off-topic.

B :p

CharleneN
09-29-2004, 07:02 PM
Wow...some realy great beads here! Looking thru them I had a "duh" moment and realized a bead I posted in the S&T the other day would be good to post here.

Does it count even tho I didn't make the bead with this Challenge in mind?

It's blues, white and rubino.