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Lulu
05-19-2001, 01:02 AM
Have previously done a version of this in c pencil but thought I would have a go in watercolour (somewhat nerve-wracking for me but I managed not to fiddle too much!)
I welcome any comments and advice http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
Lulu
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faymcivor
05-19-2001, 02:07 AM
LuLu abit more shading on both arms,and perhaps under the baby and the hand holding the babies head ,my thoughts anyway other than that lovely and soft looking. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Fay

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billyg
05-19-2001, 02:12 AM
Hey Lulu,
A bit more grounding of the baby and maybe some ruffled look at the blouse above the boob.Also a bit more dark under the head on the pillow, check with Hugh though. Cool, both seem to be enjoying the moment.
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Rod
05-19-2001, 02:18 AM
Hi Lulu,
I like the colour choices ,and you have shaded to give each piece shape and form. You have some nice soft edges and good definition where needed.
My only criticism is that some of your shading is not consistant with the light source direction. I know its difficult because we try to give a different tonal contrast , light against dark where objects overlap . But the light source side must still be lighter than the shade side.
I am assuming the main light is coming from the left in at an angle as shown by the shadow behind the arm. The skirt you have shaded correctly but when you get to her hips the shadow changes sides.If you had kept the shaded side on the inside , and the left side of the elbow light then you still would have had the tonal difference, and shading would be correct,
Well done,
Rod.


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Lulu
05-19-2001, 06:13 AM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
Have incorporated most of them I think (to the best of my ability http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
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Rod
05-19-2001, 07:34 AM
Thats nailed it, sign and frame,
Rod.

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majaya
05-19-2001, 10:06 AM
A lovely portrait. The added shading brought it to life. Mary

ameliajordan
05-19-2001, 10:16 AM
Absolutely lovely. Your changes made all the difference from a nice beginning to a finished work.

taghera
05-19-2001, 06:55 PM
This is really good Lulu, well done. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Sandi
05-19-2001, 07:04 PM
I like the geometrics. I feel you could really push this one into a fun, many planed one, which would interject the reality of women's many planes and roles, for instance.
Much nicer with the corrections made. Still feels unfinished to me though.

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Lulu
05-19-2001, 10:10 PM
thanks everyone for your comments. They really are appreciated.
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Sandi
05-21-2001, 02:27 PM
I think I understand my 'feelings' about this one feeling unfinished.
The colors are cool and distant.
The mother is dreamily happy in another place and time. Distant.
The mother is away from the baby physically as well. Distant.
The only thing that 'feels' loving to me, is the blond hair.. everybody has a love affair with blond hair it seems. A kind of false 'angelic' thing going on. Which, with the distance of the two in this picture kind of exaggerates that fascade for me.

Maybe Distance was your intent? If so, you pulled it off quite well.

Maybe I'm just used to seeing Mothers who wrap themselves as close to their baby's as possible, especially while nursing. They just can't seem to get close enough. It's a time for studying their facial expressions, their bodies, their breathing, their every little precious thing about them. Warmth and joy in the act of bonding and nourishing.

I think that's why I want to "see" more planes.. more levels. The one plane, one level I do see is cold and shallow, distant in a selfish way. Everything seems tucked away into the mother's neat and orderly system that suits her needs. The lack of a fullfilled background exemplifies that feeling.



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TeAnne
05-23-2001, 08:12 AM
Hey wow Lulu, this is magic http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif are you going to put this on the dars too. I love the cp one on the card you sent. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif WOW again

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Lulu
05-23-2001, 03:35 PM
Thanks for looking again Sandi.
I appreciate your comments - don't necessarily agree with them http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif but that's okay, they make me think about the 'how and why' I have done the painting.
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[This message has been edited by Lulu (edited May 23, 2001).]

Lulu
05-23-2001, 03:37 PM
TeAnne - thanks!
Glad you liked the card - yes I will use this pic too.
Thanks again,
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Sandi
05-26-2001, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Lulu:
Thanks for looking again Sandi.
I appreciate your comments - don't necessarily agree with them http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif but that's okay, they make me think about the 'how and why' I have done the painting.
Lulu http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Lulu (edited May 23, 2001).]

You're welcome. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
I would still love to hear your intentions of this piece,.. especially now that I know you did come from a totally different angle than I felt. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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joemajury
05-30-2001, 08:48 PM
LuLu, we dont all dislike this picture, I think its lovely and really captures the bond between the mother and her baby, I feel as if the mother has a look of pure delight and love for her baby.
This one will sell, its a winer, or do I mean a winner?
Great stuff.
Beautiful

Joe
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Sandi
06-01-2001, 08:45 PM
I get the impression that defenses were raised, rather than inquistiveness. I hope that's not the case.
I still feel the same way.
I had hoped you would come back and explain your goals with this, so we could learn more.

This feels more like cp than a wc to me, especially in the grainy line textures of the pillows. I think that I'm also missing the 'flow' and 'merging' and 'softness' and 'reflected glows' of wc's. With that in mind, combined with my last post, I see this more as an illustration.
The illustration feeling, combined with the main focus being on the woman, I can't help but conclude into 'stories' about the woman.
She's a 90's woman, with many planes to her life, many roles. Her baby fits into one of them. Perhaps she's a CPO, Miminalist, Single Parent, Dater, and Nurse combo ....

As "just" mother-n-child, it doesn't work for me though, for all the reasons mentioned above.
But it does for a lot of others, I'll assume.

Interesting.



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Lulu
06-02-2001, 05:10 AM
Joe, thanks for your comments, and thanks for your hugs and kisses too! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
Sandi, I don't mind a bit that it doesn't work for you. Thanks for looking (yet again).
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Sandi
06-02-2001, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Lulu:
Joe, thanks for your comments, and thanks for your hugs and kisses too! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
Sandi, I don't mind a bit that it doesn't work for you. Thanks for looking (yet again).
Lulu http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

LOL! That's the beauty of critiques. We are free to take out of it what suits our needs.




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MissMouse
06-02-2001, 08:58 PM
The Mother and child picture looks detached to me as if Mom is dreaming of someplace else she would rather be.
After nursing 4 children I can put myself in her moment ..... I liked the changes.

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Lulu
06-02-2001, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by MissMouse:
The Mother and child picture looks detached to me as if Mom is dreaming of someplace else she would rather be.
After nursing 4 children I can put myself in her moment ..... I liked the changes.



Thankyou for your comments.
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JaneS
06-03-2001, 01:05 PM
She looks to me like a professional woman, from the way she is dressed. Understandably, she is tired, and so is laying down for a bit. But she is at peace, and enjoying these moments where her only focus, for once, is her baby, where she is staring, and smiling peacefully. She is content to not be smothering her baby with her arms because that is how she intends to raise this baby. (a daughter, imo)... loved, attended to, but allowed the freedom to spread her wings and fly. Great painting. The colors work great together,too.

MissMouse
06-03-2001, 03:58 PM
Lulu, looking at your picture on your tiny head and the water color picture the women looks a bit like you ? Could this be ...

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Lulu
06-03-2001, 05:05 PM
Jane, thankyou for your comments. Much appreciated.

MissMouse, no http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif not me, am well past this stage in my life. Enjoyed it when I was there though.

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