View Full Version : Canvs, or WC paper?

08-29-2004, 02:15 PM
I have posted a couple of my paintings here. I need some advice from you acrylic masters in this forum.

Have been doing drawings with pen & ink, and CP, of the old gold mining ghost towns of Stanton, Weaver, and Octave Arizona. Will post a couple ref photos I took of the subjects. My question is about if I should paint subject on 300 lb Arches WC paper with a water color tech. or a oil typ painting on canvas, or board.. :confused:

First photo is all that is left of the Weaver PO, and Jail, from 1863. That is the famous "Rich Hill" in background where the Weaver party found nuggets the size of potatos on top of it.. The seconed ref photo is the old Stanton hotel. BTW I have a market in minde fer prints, and cards of this subject if I can get a good painting of em.




08-29-2004, 03:53 PM
I think the best thing is maybe to experiment a bit with the surfaces and see which gives you a result you like best. I paint on both canvas and paper and get very different results. For my serious work I prefer canvas but enjoy doing colour studies on unprimed watercolour paper - the absorbancy is completely different in both. Also, the texture is different so see how you like your precise marks to work. You might find some textures too heavy and bumpy (or you might prefer that! :)) You might like the 'give' of stretched canvas or find it frustrating and want a surface that you can put on something solid and flat (so paper, board, or even unstretched canvas). Play. :)


08-29-2004, 03:54 PM
I personally prefer the oil-like painting on canvas. In this case, though, I'm not sure which way it would look better. I would suggest doing very rough "sketch" paintings in both styles to get a sense of what looks better. It's hard to picture what this will look like in the two styles. Nice subject!


Richard Saylor
08-29-2004, 04:08 PM
I use watercolors for watercolor-type paintings, oils for oil-type paintings, gouache for gouache-type paintings, and acrylics for acrylic-type paintings. For all watermedia (which includes acrylics), I prefer watercolor paper, with or without gesso.

08-29-2004, 06:38 PM
I prefer Arches for watercolors and stretched canvas for acrylics and oil pastels.

Lady Carol
08-29-2004, 10:56 PM
I frequently use watercolour paper for acrylics and fine that the surface is great. I spend much of my time with canvas getting rid of the tooth. So I am essentially forced to paint on canvas if that is what the client wants. To please myself I paint on paper with acrylics. Both surfaces work with acrylics.

This was done on Arches 300lb paper.

09-01-2004, 06:19 PM
OK I decided on 300 lb cold press Arches, 15"x11" using Golden liquid acrylics. My palett is Diarylide Yellow, Quinacridone Magenta, Cerulean Blue Deep, and a little Titanium White.

Posting my first session of about 4 hrs not including drawing. Have a lot of detail on ruin, and foreground Will paint each rock in ruin as seperate subject.



Richard Saylor
09-01-2004, 06:52 PM
Terrific job so far, Jack. The ruin as well as the mountain are totally convincing. Keep it up, and you've got a sure winner!

09-02-2004, 01:00 AM
Wow, that was a heck of a first session. This is going to be great. Love the atmosphere in those mountains, and your bushes.

- Matthew Durante

09-02-2004, 02:14 AM
Great work ........... looking forward to seeing more updates.

09-02-2004, 03:46 PM
Thanks y'all appriciate the support. Here is update of 4 more hrs session.



09-02-2004, 04:02 PM
Excellent so far... please make sure you post an update as you progress. The mountain is perfect so far. Having lived in arizona and california most of my life, and visited many a ghost town, I can say you've really caught the essence and feel of the desert in your pallet. Looking forward to seeing more.

09-02-2004, 04:05 PM
Looking great, Jack. I love that mountain; very nicely placed.


09-03-2004, 02:29 PM
Thanks marc. I intend to get some reference photos of oak creek up near Sedona when the leavs change color in Oct. Love to pains water, and streams.

Thanks fer looking Dave. I'm posting update. need more detail, and texture in rocks of foreground. then I will call it finished.



Lady Carol
09-03-2004, 03:54 PM
This turned out great. :clap: :clap:

09-03-2004, 04:29 PM
This is fantastic!!! :clap: Great work!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Charlie's Mum
09-03-2004, 06:13 PM
Very impressive Jack. I've just scrolled through the thread - it's good to see a WIP - very informative. :clap: :clap:
However, you're such an accomplished painter, I wonder why you haven't already decided about paper/canvas/board/whatever........? You don't seem to lack confidence - especially not in your painting!!!!!!! :D . You seem perfectly capable of adapting technique to support - just MHO!!!!! :D