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literal
05-24-2001, 06:09 AM
Hi,

I recently spent a day standing by the side of the road painting. I've been painting for about 6 months on and off and have no formal training, and have never had the benefit of advice other than books so any thoughts or feedback would be much appreciated.

My biggest problems are figuring out what consistency watercolour is supposed to be when mixed (no books cover that), and not knowing how strong colours should be.

I have the feeling that these while strong looking to me may still be a bit 'shy'.

The first image was painted by the side of the road on site using the hosue as the main subject and is on 140IB Bockingford Cold Pressed paper. Size 8x11.

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This second paining was done back at home using both the first painting and a photograph taken on the day for reference. I intended to make the hills behind feature instead of the house as they were quite spectacular on the day. The second image is on 140IB Bockingford Cold Pressed paper. Size 16x22.

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Another question I have is 'are they finished?'

Mark

oleCC
05-24-2001, 08:26 AM
Hi Mark..and if I failed to say it earlier, then Welcome to the forum!
Color intensity depends on what you want to portray. Darker values (less water and more pigment) - or lighter values depends on your own personal preferences. These images look very good - but I suspect in scanning them they come across darker than in reality.
If you can..use software for editing images and brighten them up a bit - then re-post eh?
I think you are off to a great start!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Carol

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lonie
05-24-2001, 10:38 AM
I prefer the second one, with the hills as the main subject. The colours look great to me & yes I think it looks finished.

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majaya
05-24-2001, 09:06 PM
Hi Mark, Welcome to WetCanvas http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif I am also learning on my own and from books. The WetCanvas forum will teach you a great deal. I make it a 'lesson' every morning to read the comments on the pieces. For someone who has just started you have already got a very relaxed touch.....the hills in the second piece show this more so that the first. The idea is to do your own thing...put yourself into the work. If you feel that it hasn't enough colour make it brighter. One thing I noticed about the second piece is that the tree is almost in the centre....do you notice how distracting it is? compare it to the tree in the first and you will see what I mean. Hope you visit us more often. Mary

baquitania
05-24-2001, 10:46 PM
Literal, since you're asking for watercolor help, I'm not gonna dwell on you composition or your technique. I think my best advice would be to have some fun, experiment without a formal image to block you into a style that may not be your own. Put some fruit & veggies on a table. A banana, an apple, a green bell pepper, and anything else with varying color, ooo a papaya or mango if you can find them. Don't worry about
the placing of the fruits, overlap one with another, and do this in a nice open room with good light, which I can't stress enough.
Loosely and lightly with a hard lead pencil, I prefer mechanical ones, sketch the shapes of your fruit. Don't get hung up on accuracy, make them in accurate in fact. This excersize is about color and exploring the medium, not realism. After your sketch is done, excuse me let me back up, use a nice big sheet of paper, whatever you prefer.
Now let's have some fun, block in the colors of the fruit, and keep your surface wet, you can always go back and sharpen your edges.
While the basic colors are in yellow for a banana, red for the apple, green for the pepper, throw in some imaginary color or complimentary color into the wet areas. Let that dry and do another layer slightly darker, work light to dark so you don't have to worry about if your colors are intense enough, the gradual build up will solve that porblem for you. Remember this is just an excersize design to give you a feel for color mixing. Vary your brushes, vary your colors, your banana may have some orange in it, you apple some green, your pepper some blue. Consequently if you are not comfortable with the size, find cut up one sheet into several test sizes, whatever makes you more at ease. But when you get this down, you will be dying to get to a big sheet I promise you. I can see by your 2nd picture from the purple & yellow mixing, you have already down some of this. But I think the landscape and the idea of making your subject matter accurate is hanging up your technique. This excersize will loosen up and it's fun if you do it right. Play some music, painting doesn't have to be silent torture. And don't be hard on yourself for not being taught. This is why you are here. I wish I had this place when I was in art college, the support would have been nice. And by the way welcome to Wet Canvas!

literal
05-25-2001, 04:50 AM
Thank you one and all for your suggestions and comments.

Carol - The problems with the images themselves is that they were taken at night with a cheap digital camera (no scanner here). They are a little brighter in the light of day. I'll have a play with the image editing software and see if I can correct the lighting problem.

Majaya: I agree about the tree in the second picture. I intend cutting the paper to move the tree to the right hand side.

Baqutania: Thank you for the suggestions. I'll head off and give that a go now.

Mark


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ameliajordan
05-25-2001, 07:56 AM
Welcome to Wet Canvas. It looks like you're doing a lot of things right - I particularly like your hills. In answer to your question about consistency of paint - that's a tricky one. It all depends... For example, it the paper is wet you will need thicker paint since so much of the water is in the paper. For wet in wet you need to keep using thicker paint than the last unless you want blooms. I think about milk ; for a very thin glaze you might want the consistency of skim mile but often more like 1/2 and 1/2. I like watercolor best when it shows off the water but that's a personal preference. Hope this makes sense. Try mixing up some different consistencies in one color and experiment.

literal
05-25-2001, 04:52 PM
Amelia: Thank you for the advice on consistency. Thats exactly the question I've been trying to answer. Milk is a good analogy.

Much appreciated

Mark

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Rod
05-26-2001, 07:22 AM
Welcome,
Just enjoy and experiment, you will find if your paint is too watery then the pigment will run to the edge when drying and a hard line of pigment will be seen,
Rod.

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