View Full Version : Davy's Gray - available in oil? or a recipe?
10-03-2001, 05:51 PM
I have just discovered a new colour in acrylic and LOVE it! I really would like to find it in oils too. Or if someone mixes a similar colour from existing tube colours. :)
It's from the W&N Finity artists' acrylic color range - pigments are powered slate and synthetic iron oxide. They have an oil Davy's Gray in the US ONLY! Aaaargh! Any ideas short of ordering from the US, which I could probably do?
10-07-2001, 02:33 AM
Old Holland makes Davey's gray. I'm sure that I have seen it in other brands also.
10-07-2001, 04:56 AM
Well, yesterday a friend took me out to one of those big scary suburban art & craft mega-stores (you know, where everything costs more!) and lo and behold, there was Davy's Gray in W&N oils!
I know better than to ask why it's not on their European color chart. The shop also had Carmine for a mere £30!!! EYIKES! (that's a 37ml tube) Tempting as ground up bugs are, I won't be trying that color. :)
10-09-2001, 08:04 PM
If you haven't bought it yet, you should be able to mix an identical hue from most any black, Mars Yellow (or Yellow Ochre) and Titanium White, possibly modified with a touch of a red earth.
10-13-2001, 04:20 PM
COMBINE PAYNES GREY WITH YELLOW GREEN.
10-14-2001, 09:25 AM
mix your own payne's grey from ultramarine blue, mars black, and yellow ochre. maybe the addition of green to this mix will give you the slate color of davy's? i hate to see you buy W&N....
10-14-2001, 02:02 PM
Great! Recipes! er, full of colours I don't buy anyway. :D But I may give it a try anyway because of a MAJOR disapointment in the oil version fo the colour. *sigh*
Here's an image of Davy's Gray, both from W&N, oil on the left, acrylic on the right. The acrylic colour was the one I fell in love with.
The acrylic is made of slate, synth iron oxide. The oil is made of slate, synth iron oxide and CARBON BLACK. Aaaaaaaaargh! The best part? The label colours are the same - the lighter colour. The lesson? Always read the ingredients on the tube no matter what.
Btw, all my paints are W&N. I'm slowly building up to Gamblin but only have a few tubes so far and it's really far to the one shop that sells their paints. I'm not one for inconvenience.
03-08-2004, 11:17 PM
I am a landscape oil painter in the Pacific NW. I love Winsor and Newton's Davy's Grey ("Synth Iron Oxide PY42, Carbon Black PBk7 and Slate Powder PBk19") in well textured renditions of distant bodies of water--often along with unmixed bits of cerulean, burnt sienna or naples yellow. The W&N brand of Davy's is rather granular and "slippery", almost like a stick of graphite. I find Old Holland Davy' Grey to be a very different hue and texture, more like Terre Verte, and therefore less distinctive. Williamsburg Oil Paints' version is just the Slate pigment alone (PBk19) I suspect one could mix up a bit of one's own W&N Davy's in linseed oil as follows. Getting pigments from Williamsburg Art Materials in their smallest allotments (Eg. Mars Yellow Deep, Davy's Grey Deep and Intense--or Lamp--Black) one could have all the Davy's for a lifetime for about the cost of three tubes. Better yet, do it for the cost of one tube, using your tube of Yellow Ochre or Mars Yellow (Often PY42) plus the Slate pigment and some linseed oil. Add Lamp Black if you want it darker.
That's my brainstorm anyway.
03-09-2004, 07:13 AM
Schminke do a warm Brownish grey no.2 that doesn't look too different to the image on the right.
If you have Jacksons catalogue, it shows the greys on the bottom row of the colour chart.
I just compared some Brownish Grey 2 out of the tube with the printed chart, and its actually closer to Bluish Grey 1 (as it appears on the chart) Bluish Grey 1 is actually much cooler/paler than on the printed chart.
It has no black in it.
I'll send you some in a camera pot if you like :)
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