View Full Version : Marilyn - second knife painting

09-27-2001, 03:49 PM
16" x 12"
No drawing again, so no need to slap my wrist. ;)



Will replace pictures tomorrow if I can get better ones in daylight.


09-27-2001, 05:06 PM
Wow Excellent ! except for the boobs where you stopped checking your source -I imagine - (why do people act like they know boobs and don't have to check? - always check boobs - at least 3 times - I try to be religious about it!)

09-27-2001, 05:28 PM
Jerry didn't slap your wrist this time...
and HA...make me laugh on checking the boobs 3X's!...
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry...bad boy! HA again!

on your work here...
Marilyn never looked so great!
you have capture her soooo well!

el knifo es yo nuevo exprssionado...eh?...:D
keep it up...you are on to something!


09-27-2001, 06:38 PM
Gosh, Helen.. you're going somewhere great with these knife paintings. Way to go. Both are excellent.

09-27-2001, 07:54 PM
wow. i don't know how pleased you are with these helen but i think they are fantastic. there is a certain depth and power that i think is a direct result of the looseness of the application of the paint with the knife. very striking. onward!

09-27-2001, 08:07 PM
Ok Hellen Cut it out *S* I can't do this well with a brush yet *S* Love it *S* I want a dress like that too *S* :D

09-27-2001, 08:13 PM
I've seen a fair amount of your art posted, and I have to say, you're really talented. This is no exception- what a great painting!

09-27-2001, 08:39 PM

1. Causing distraction, consternation, confusion, dismay.

2. Astounding, astonishing, wonderful, great beyond expectation.

3. See Helen"

09-28-2001, 05:43 AM
Jerry - Ha! You got me!! The photo I worked from was cropped just under the neck! I searched the web for the same photo with more visible below the neck, but to no avail! Not being 'well-endowed' enough to be a model myself for the cleavage I wanted, I had to make it up! :rolleyes:

This morning I managed to find the photo on the web with a little more visible, so I've re-done the area. She's not as 'busty' as I thought she was, either. I think it's better now, but maybe not yet done? Please have a look and let me know where I could go from here?


ginia - so glad you like my style with el knifo! :D My mum likes my version of her, too, and she's watched her a lot more than I have.

Allan - Thank you!! The knife seems to help me to work loosely more than anything else I've ever tried before! I feel quite 'freed' from detail, and that's a first!

eric - Thanx so much for the great encouragement! Yes, I definitely like the effects the knife gives, though I was more pleased with the first painting than with this one. But that might just be because I had more problems with this one. When I've lived with both long enough to forget the problems, I might feel differently. :)

Luvy - :D Actually, I think the knife is easier than a brush! Why not give it a go? Hey, "cut it out", was that a knife joke, or not intentional? LOL! Yes, wonderful dress!

Amorphis - What a lovely compliment! Thanx so much!

Impulse - Well, I knew that British dictionaries had all that in them, but I didn't realise the Canadians ones have it, too! :eek: I must be even more amazing than I thought I was! :eek:
;) :p Thanx Impulse, you are great for my ego, and very kind! :)


09-28-2001, 07:41 AM
A wow from me!:clap: :clap: :clap:

09-28-2001, 09:38 AM
Wows are always welcome. :D
Thanx, Cap!


09-28-2001, 10:38 AM
Just a note,
I think she might have been as busty as you first thought... only, back then, they tended to go "Au naturel" rather then taping them in place to puch them up.....:eek: :p OUCH!! (as they do today)
Anyway, the adjustement looks coorect now. The whole painting is just marvellous.

keep posting.

09-28-2001, 11:01 AM
Thank you, Ladysue! :)
I've made another change though.
Better or worse?



09-28-2001, 11:14 AM
Helen: I know this is nit-picking, however, I'll put in my two cents about the breasts. I note that the strongest light source seems to be coming from above left (according to the shadows under her jaw and collar). That would eliminate the shading you have put on the top of the right breast (Marilyn's left) and reduce the shading slightly down the side of the left breast. Tell me to go jump in the lake if you like -- I know Jerry would :O))

09-28-2001, 11:32 AM
i must say i am rather enjoying
all this toing and froing
about the breasts ...
just doing my part to encourace
a well rounded debate :D

09-28-2001, 11:38 AM
Allan! Thank you!
Shame on me for not even thinking about light when trying to get that bit right! :o
Have made another change after your good advice, and now I'm gonna stop 'cause I'm getting really fed up with this piece! :rolleyes:

LOL @ Impulse! :D


09-28-2001, 06:42 PM
I am laughing and shaking my head...
so much fun...

I think...being a woman...
(actually having breasts, myself...
therefore knowing how they behave under such circumstances...
should I have said that??:angel: )
and appreciating the image of Marilyn...
and having actually watched her as a child...
and knowing how she looked wearing such things...
what you should do...

get the dress back where it was...
and add the clevage...
just leave out the round over you had at the top of her breasts...

or, if you like the lower cut dress...
do something between the first of it and the second of it...
the last one looks too dark between the mountains...

and all working with a knifeo!...
how hard it is to depict breasts with a knifeo!!

well, take it or leave it...
thanks for the [email protected]!


09-28-2001, 09:56 PM
very nice,Helen.
she's my favourite star.


09-29-2001, 04:51 AM
Hi ginia!
'Too dark between the mountains'? Thought I was doing a landscape for a minute there! :D
You're right.
This is what I did after Allan's light advice:


I really hope it's OK now!

Rosanna - Thank you! :)


09-29-2001, 09:15 AM
Sign it, Helen! Looks great.. Well done.

09-29-2001, 05:20 PM
yup...the landscape is fine!


09-29-2001, 05:42 PM
three times see exactly right.
allanom - perfect . ha!

10-02-2001, 08:53 AM
wow, i have tried numerous paintings and such of her and yours captures her perfectly. I love it.

10-02-2001, 09:33 AM
ginia, Jerry, Patrick! Thanx very much!!! :)


10-03-2001, 01:43 PM
very nice!

I see the breasts were resolved in the end... ;)