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dogdad
06-02-2004, 08:09 AM
On one of the other threads someone mentioned erasing paint on a painting.I don't know if this is a dumb question or not but how is this done?Any help would be appreciated. :confused: :)
Nick

Khendra
06-02-2004, 08:28 AM
Unless you mean something special I've never heard of, I'd say it's just using a plain eraser on the painting. It can be used for highlights or sections which went wrong and you want to redo them.

greenjack
06-02-2004, 08:34 AM
I don't know what paints you're planning to use, but I've had no success with erasing Golden Airbrush acrylics, they're too hard.

Caterwallin'
06-02-2004, 11:35 AM
Removing pigment from a support with an eraser is a commonly used technique. The concept is to apply thin layers of paint and erase them back to the white of the support, then apply another, erase and so on. This develops deep, rich tones. You can also erase brilliant smooth, transitional highlights that you can't paint. Most of the time it works best with illustration board. The paint coverage, when sprayed through an airbrush, is minimal and easy to remove, with the few exceptions. Some paints are designed for this purpose while others are not! ComArt pre-mixed airbrush colors, both opaque and transparent, were designed for ease of erasure. Golden's are not! One would have to expiriment and test colors to determine how it will hold up to or allow erasure.

You can use a variety of objects to remove paint. Erasers, X-acto knives, steel wool, etc,............use your imagination!
I have an arsenal of erasers that I use.

dogdad
06-02-2004, 04:13 PM
Thank you Caterwallin'.I do mostly t-shirts,but I do have 12 carousel horses to do for a calendar.They will be done on illustration board.Is there a link that has a demo on using erasers? Thanks again. :)
Nick

Penny220
06-02-2004, 05:46 PM
No link, no demo needed. If you are using an erasable airbrush paint, just erase. Think of it like this, instead of applying white to highlight you erase where you want the highlights to be and the highlight will then be the white of the board. It's a nice techniques for hard crisp lines (razor blades or other sharp point) or soft highlights like in fur or portraits.

Erasing is just one of many techniques for illustration, some prefer it, others do not. It's definately worth trying. There is nothing to learn about it, it's just like erasing spots in a drawing such as colored pencil or pastel.

dogdad
06-02-2004, 07:43 PM
Thanks Penny I'll give it a shot.Sometimes this Ukranian brain of mine does not comprehend.
Nick

Penny220
06-02-2004, 08:26 PM
tak ya znaty :)

please tell me if this is correct. This is what the translator told me but it's different from how I learned it.

dogdad
06-03-2004, 08:23 AM
Sorry Penny,I don't speak Ukrainian.My father would'nt let us.He said you live in Canada you speak English.
Nick

Paul Corfield
06-03-2004, 08:47 AM
The only thing you will need to learn is that different erasers will erase the paint differently and the effect they produce will vary. I gritty type of eraser that is normally used on inks is better for brighter highlights and where you want to erase to a gard edge. Softer pencil erasers produce softer highlights but are not good at erasing back to the white of the board.

I use erasers all the time and it's a great method for producing many effects from bright highlights to textures that can be layered with many layers of paint.

Paul.

greenjack
06-03-2004, 09:07 AM
I'm looking for help in identifying UK online/mail order suppliers of fluids. We seem to lack the wealth of stockists available to US artists.

I've found a reasonable number who can supply sets, or a limited range but am really struggling to find suppliers with a good range that will ship promptly at a good price. I'm currently using Golden airbrush acrylics but fancy trying others that are erasable

I know I can import simply enough, but I don't want to pick up import costs.

Any helpful links appreciated.

Paul Corfield
06-03-2004, 09:13 AM
I use Daler Rowney FW acrylic inks which are readily available here in the UK and they erase really well. I've been using them for at least 10 years now.

I get nearly all my supplies from http://www.artsupplies.co.uk/

Paul.

greenjack
06-03-2004, 09:17 AM
Many thanks Paul, I'll check it out.

Caterwallin'
06-03-2004, 11:14 AM
I'm so sorry Nick, I let your question get past me!

But Paul gave you the exact answer I would have! I'm glad he was paying attention!

Sam

dogdad
06-03-2004, 11:52 AM
Thanks for the input everybody! :clap:
Nick

Sundrop
06-03-2004, 08:08 PM
This was an oil painting done with an eraser and tooth picks.................

dogdad
06-03-2004, 08:22 PM
Yikes! Amazing! :clap:
Nick

Penny220
06-03-2004, 09:35 PM
This was an oil painting done with an eraser and tooth picks.................

nice, but could you tell us a little bit more of your technique? Was this airbrushed or traditional oil paint? At what stage of the dry process did you erase? etc etc

thanx

Sundrop
06-04-2004, 07:11 PM
nice, but could you tell us a little bit more of your technique? Was this airbrushed or traditional oil paint? At what stage of the dry process did you erase? etc etc

thanx
this technique is applying oil paint and erasing it back off wet.....There is no waiting for it to dry,I do it while it is wet.....I use one color,Black and a eraser cut to size and a tooth pick......I just thought it was another way to look at erasing something.............. you can see more of my technique at http://abstractsteve.com

AlpineAirbrush
06-05-2004, 02:57 AM
Wow Sundrop, really cool painting!!

.....And it reminds me, I need to have the kids weed the flower beds! LOL!

Thanks for posting this, it does stir the imagination to the endless possibilities of erasing.

Hey Dogdad, I recently learned a cool trick of erasing when using the Com Art paints. Dip a hairy stick in airbrush cleaner and "paint" it onto your art, then immediatly wipe it off ( being carful to wipe in the same direction as the brush stroke) .....instant highlights. Also, once you've sprayed an area you can go back with a hairy stick and the airbrush cleaner and manipulate and move the paint around for different effects such as dirt or small rocks until you like what you see and just let it dry. Then hit it with some more transparent to bring it back to airbrushed look........the posibilities go on and on. I've had a lot of fun playing with this technique, you'll have to play with it with the paints you're using and see what you get. :cool:

Khendra
06-05-2004, 11:29 AM
I've tried that, too, you can make some cool corals by stippling airbrush cleaner with a short hard hairy stick onto some colour. Looks quite okay!

Penny220
06-06-2004, 06:55 AM
I've scratched off oil paint before, then sprayed a transparent layer over it. It was a really neat effect when I was done.

thanks for sharing your work with us.