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Maryeve
06-01-2004, 09:12 PM
Hi guys! Im popping over from the portrait and pastel forums to ask you what programs you use? Im utterly fascinated by the portraits that I see coming from Joel and??..Lisa?? I believe it is. I spend SOOO much time in the playroom at the computer while my kids are playing, that I would LOVE to have a program to play with. Is it hard to master? Are there several to choose from? I really don't want to spend a fortune on this as it is just for play. Then what do you do just print it on paper, or canvas or what?? what if you want something bigger than a peice of paper, can you send the image somewhere and have it made? sorry for all the questions. Thanks for your help in advance.
mary

Jet
06-01-2004, 09:20 PM
We usually use PhotoShop, and Painter, some are using PaintShop Pro and other dedicated programs such as artrage, dogwaffle, the wimp, PhotoPaint etc...

There are too many techniques, and methods for doing your art works..
yes they can be printed at specialized printshops, where you can have them printed on canvas, stretched and framed.
or in a myriad of fine art papers with archival inks that look like the real thing and last over 75 years.

You can follow many tutorials, just click on DATT button on the bottom of this post.

Welcome to the DigiArt Forum...
anything else , just post your question and i'll try to be there ASAP.

Regards

Maryeve
06-01-2004, 09:23 PM
You mean I can do this with Paint shop Pro? I have that and can't figure out how to do ANYTHING that remotely resembles the level of finished art that I have seen Joel and Lisa produce!

Duende
06-01-2004, 09:37 PM
Hello Maryeve,
So glad you could join us!
I use "Painter 8" and I love it. I also have "photoshop " but I don't have occasion to use that so much, other than for looking after my photograph collection. I am sure I am missing out on all the wonderful things it can do for me though.
Although I paint with conventional media such as pastel and watercolor, I enjoy relaxing with my digital brushes. I usually paint in a traditional way , sketching first, and then using the "brushes" as one would in the conventional method . I have a tablet and stylus at the present time, but started of with the good old mouse. What really is great is, that you can pick up a brush and "paint" anytime and not bother about having to clean up afterwards. Paddy

Michael
06-01-2004, 10:00 PM
here are a couple good Tutorial links for you:

PSP Tutorials (http://www.psplinks.com/)

Pinoy7 (http://www.pinoy7.com/psptutorials/default.htm)

These should get you up and going in short order :D

Jet
06-01-2004, 10:03 PM
Mary

i recommend starting with something easy and productive so you feel you're getting somewhere.this is a tutorial done by a deceased friend.
* Hi Opal .my friend !!
...........http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jun-2004/27782-oz.jpg (http://heartcreators.net/ladyoz/watercolour.html)

Have fun!!
Regards

Chiers
06-01-2004, 10:08 PM
Hello Maryeve. I started digital painting with psp7. I had used it for several months to make cards and siggies, etc etc. Then one day I discovered that I could actually use the brushes in the same manner I used real brushes. And the smudge brushs gave me the ability to blend paint on the canvas just like I do when using oil paint on a wet canvas. Now I have psp8 and the brush possibilities are much more advanced. Most pspers when they think of brushes think of a brush that is more like using a rubber stamp. There is so much more than that. I don't even consider those brushes.

I also have about ten other programs, the one that best simulates real media is without a doubt Painter8. Then Painter classic which comes bundled with the wacom stylus and pad. At least, it did. There are also many excellent free programs you can download on the internet. My choice of the free ones is a program called Pixia. It is a truly great little program!.

I must warn you that digital art is somewhat addictive. I have many of my digital paintings framed and hanging on my walls and the walls of my friends. Welcome to this forum. Looking forward to your first digi work.

Jet
06-01-2004, 10:25 PM
Mary,
So sorry, i got mixed up..
and forgot you already know how to paint..

here's a link for using PSP for painting




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jun-2004/27782-farp.jpg (http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/psp2/)

Regards

flowerfancy58
06-02-2004, 02:06 AM
Hi MaryEve, and welcome:)

I started with psp7, then went to 8 and now Painter 8, which I dearly love.

You can certainly turn out some lovely pieces in psp, and there are many tuts available to get you started.

I have several tuts for psp on my site that may be helpful.

here's the addy
http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/maidenloveland/christmas.html

gloria

grahamrj
06-02-2004, 08:27 AM
To add to what others have said: I would recommend you get a tablet fairly soon. I bought mine a few weeks ago, a Wacom Graphire 3, which cost 70 (in the UK) and came with a copy of Painter Classic. I think you'll be fine with PSP or Painter Classic or free software for a long time, but a mouse is limiting (to put it mildly).

Graham

kptad2
06-02-2004, 10:01 AM
hi like everyone else said you can get good things going with what you may have.. and i still am not at the level joel is but there are some good programs out there .. that easy to use with some practice.
i have psp7, my fav is dogwaffle. '
http://www.squirreldome.com/cyberop.htm
http://www.gimp.org/
http://www.jasc.com/products/?
hopeyou can find something you like.. welcome aboard :clap: :D

Jet
06-02-2004, 05:27 PM
Gloria,
i wanted to make your link stand out, so i took the liberty..
.....................http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Jun-2004/27782-artist_header1.jpg (http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/maidenloveland/christmas.html) :)

Regards

flowerfancy58
06-02-2004, 05:36 PM
Aw, thank you Jorge, that was so sweet of you, and I appreciate it very much:)

gloria

Cronious
06-02-2004, 05:55 PM
I would also recommend a wacom tablet, as I have said before, I bought a cheap tablet some time ago but it did not work in any pro software, when I phoned the company they said..... what you wanted it to work with different software :evil: Also they normally come packed with Painter classic which is a good into program, plus you can upgrade to Painter8 for less cash....gotta be a winner

Looking forward to seeing some of your images

CRN

JCoop
06-02-2004, 06:10 PM
Mary, I'm so glad to see you over here. As you know, I am a big fan of yours!
You've been given some good advice, so I'll weigh in at the risk of being redundant. First of all someone mentioned that digital painting is addicting... they weren't exaggerating. Digital painting has won over many traditional souls. :eek:

Knowing that you are already an extremely competent artist and being familiar with your style of work, I would recommend Painter8. Painter8 is not an easy program to master, but my philosophy is that if you're going to struggle and sweat to learn an application, you might as well struggle and sweat to learn one that will, in the end, be up to the professional task. I'm not saying that some of the other programs mentioned here are not up to professional standards, because they are. I'm just saying that I think Painter8 will suit your style of painting.

I know you said that you just wanted a program to knock around with, but believe me, your fun will turn into a practicality. And you'll begin to rely on your painting program to work out issues before you waste your precious artist materials.

If you do decide to get Painter, be prepared for a leaning curve. You'll also want a dedicate image editing application such as Photoshop (there are cheaper ones) or the like.

Also someone mentioned a graphics tablet and pen... a must!

It's good to hear from you Mary... good luck!

Elvira
06-02-2004, 07:02 PM
I'm with Joel here Painter 8 will be the painting program I'd recommend I use it with PSP 8 as my image manip program. So first get yourself a Wacom Graphic pad, I have found the size of the Graphir is quite adquate and it is a good pad to start with later if you can't aford it now you may want to upgrade to the same size INtous which has a larger pressure sentive range plus you can get some neat specialized pens which I have yet to afford though I'd love to try the one that is suppose to feel like a brush LOL. With the wacom pad you will get Painter Classic which will give you and excelent into to the world of Painter.

I starterd with Painter 6, and now have both of the following versions. I found taking the two intro courses now offered by Eclectic Academy a great way to find my way around the program.

Here is my Painter webpage: http://members.tripod.com/~bruised_reed/
Glad to have you join the adventure, I too come from a traditional background with a BFA in Painiting and Art Ed. I actually find digital painting more difficult though much nicer in that I need no extra space and nothing to clean up and put away.
Edie

Jet
06-02-2004, 07:37 PM
Mary,
you might be feeling overwhelmed with so much info...

...after reading Joel's reference to you, i guess he has a point there...

if you already know the traditional procedures it would be a logical step ahead to go with Painter..eitherway, you'll get a copy of Painter Classic when you buy your Wacom tablet.

Going the PSP way wouldn't be recommended as it would be like a step behind in many ways, same as if you went any other like PS , PP, etc...

Painter is made for painters so you'll fall in good hands....and about the learning curve ... it becomes harder if you alredady are proficient at some other program, than if you go straight ahead to it without prejudice or prior conditioning.

Yep, go Painter...and you won't miss..
:cool:

Maryeve
06-02-2004, 07:55 PM
Wow! Ya'll have been SOO helpful! Now I'm going to scout around the net and see if I can hunt down some deals. Anythoughts?