The "Spray" June 2004

[Penny220]

Sad isn't it, it's already June. With summer here now, close enough anyway, people are going to get a whole lot busier. As your lives get busier don't forget to stop in and post. I have a week of total busy-ness myself. So far the weather report says that I will be painting in the park on Saturday. Today, I clean my house, tomorrow I start painting my little heart out. I have a whole list of projects to start and finish this month.

June is a big show month so what does everyone have planned?

To our new members first I would like to say welcome, glad you made it. Next I will explain this thread. The "Spray" is our forums "catch all". A normal thread in this forum is for "airbrushing", the "spray" is for everything else. It gives us a chance to catch up with each other without cluttering the forum. Each forum has one, each by a different name.

Linda, what tree are you working on now? How's it going?

Keep sprayin'

[christmascarolnz]

Hi there. I am a pastellist, essentially, but have now had a 20 year dream realized with my hubby buying me a Paasche VL airbrush.
I've been doing the "down back forward up" practise as I saw mentioned in one of the threads earlier...gave me something to do with the airbrush on the way home from town - I was that excited! :D
I am in New Zealand and here it is winter, so bundling up with the fire going is the norm at the moment.
Cheers,
Carol

[Penny220]

Welcome to the forum!!! I'm very happy for you. Any questions you have we are right here.

[Penny220]

I started a new project that I thought quite a few people here would be interested in. It's hosted in Mixed Media. The link to the project is http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_details&proj_id=694

[Caterwallin']

Carol!!!!!

Welcome! It's great to see the enthusiasm and excitement about airbrushing! I still get excited when I get a new AB! Just remember, the AB can and will be frustrating at times! It takes time and practice to uncover your potential abilities with this new tool! The main thing is to never give in, there are always answers and solutions to problems you may encounter! This forum and all of it's members are very knowledgeable and are an incredible source of information! It's great to have you with us!

Sorry it's cold in NZ, bundle up and stay warm!

Sam

[HF AIRBRUSH]

Welcome from the centre of holland,
it's good to see new members ;)
and frustration.....yes....like i said in the other spray of may, ive had to erase a whole painting just because the colors didn't get right....so the frustration is high then....hahaha...
but ok....today the dog worked fine, so i cleared it right away......now i only have to paint the letters... :rolleyes:

but just like all the frustration....you learn of it.... :clap:

henk

[Keith Russell]

I'm trying to finish up several paintings for a show that opens July first. It's an 'abstract' show, so these new paintings are a bit different from my usual stuff--and, I'm working on canvas, and working mostly in acrylics with brushes, rather than airbrushes.

After that, I'm going to work on some older paintings that have been put on the back burner, and start some new 'Surreal' figure-oriented works, for which I'll have to hire at least one model. (And, I already have a potential model lined up...)

I register for fall classes at the KC Art Institute on the 11th of this month.

Plus, I'm still working on the music studio; I have a few more parts to scrape together to get the digital recorder up and running. I bought another keyboard on eBay over the weekend. This instrument will allow me to program a module I already own, which contains the 'brains' of eight other digital synthesizers.

I'm still hoping to have a CD ready by the end of summer that I can shop around, to hopefully get some work doing music for commercials, student and/or indie films, etc.

Busy? Yes! (As always...)

K

[HF AIRBRUSH]

YES !!!!!...finaly the dog is ok..... :clap:

henk

[ProfessorGreibowitz]

So, if I have overlooked any replies, I apologize. I hyaven't gotten email for about 2 days now. I just changed my WC! email back to my ISP's so now I can get WC! alerts and WC! emails again.



Thanks,
Tim

[christmascarolnz]

Thanks for the welcome. I've lurked around the AB forum on and off over the last couple of months and am really impressed with the work and comradeship. Very similar to the pastel forum...lovely folk there.
I just visited a site of the artist J W Baker and it says he used water soluble oils for an eagle portrait. (I'm not sure whether it is hand-painted or airbrushed). Looks amazing and has a wondeful background.
Can you use these paints in an airbrush? If so, that would be great...it's a pity I can't put my pastels thru it! :D
Also, for painting tee shirts, can you use any acrylic mixed with fabric medium?
I got frustrated with my gouche and trying to mix colours the other night that I raided the pantry for my food colouring!...next it will be the flavourings...
But of course...before I get too far along I have to create a straight line first!
Cheers,
Carol

[Penny220]

You can airbrush with oils but it's messy. Jw has been combining both paint brush and airbrush for the last few years so it's hard to tell. You can airbrush with your pastels, both the chalk and the oils. Prefered is the chalk anything oil gets messy. Wouldn't watercolors be easier to mix into the gouche? You can airbrush gouche too, along with watercolors and inks and food coloring and...., if you can thin it you can spray it. :)

Thanks for the comment on the comrodery. We try very hard to be open and friendly.

[Penny220]

YES !!!!!...finaly the dog is ok..... :clap:

henk

YEAH :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

congradulations!!!!!!!!!!!!

Henk, do tell what you got paid for doing this and what work you were involved in eg. did you do just the dog or did you have to do the prep and clear as well?

[Leaflin]

Hi everyone :D

Welcome to our little corner of WetCanvas! Carol.
I'm sure you'll learn a lot here.

Henk, your dog came out FANTASTIC!!!!!
I'm so glad it worked out for you.

Sam.....continuing from the May Spray.......
Have you decided on what printer to buy?
Mine is an Epson Stylus Photo 2200 with 7 separate inks, which means when magenta light runs out you only have to replace that one ink cartridge.
It also lets you know when you are running low on ink, and how many prints you can do of the one you just did before you run out.
I did a ton of research before purchasing it, and am very pleased with the print quality.

Keith, looks like you are as busy as ever, and by the sound of it, are only going to get busier. One of my fondest memories is registering for classes in the fall.

Penny, I hope the weather is wonderful for you this weekend, and that you do well at the show. I agree, it's hard to believe that June is here already.
As for my next tree.....well, I'm going by the Celtic Tree Calander so my next one should be Rowan, which is a Mountain Ash, but I wanted to keep my paintings on track with the calander which puts me 5 trees behind on June 9th :rolleyes: I need to contemplate, and regroup :).
Did you know that your Celtic Tree and mine is the Willow?

Brian, Nick and I had a great time camping in the mountains last week, but I'm kind of glad to be home. It got a bit nippy up there Thursday night, and dipped down into the mid 30's.

Here's a view from our campsite


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jun-2004/1471-campsite.jpg

[Penny220]

Busy? Yes! (As always...)

K

WOW! Your wife must have to make appoints with you just to see you! Do you ever manage to sleep?

Best of luck, let us know when/if you post any of your abstrats and surreals, I would like to see them.

Linda,
Great campsite. I'm not familiar with the celtic calendar. A willow huh? I can live with that, they are very flexible and can weather the nastiest of storms :)

[HF AIRBRUSH]

hey linda looks great that campsite....but im not a camper...i rather stay home....
and penny...yes i had to do everything....the prep, airbrush and clearcoat...
i know im a liitle bit cheap but ive got 300 euro for it...

i got a little bit frustrated that the dog didn't work the first time because ive got 2 demo's at the end of this week and another 2 later this month....so i got a little stressed up...hahahaha...today im going to do the clear so i can make a start for the demo's...

and about the printer....i thought tim was going to buy one ?


henk

[Penny220]

That equals $366.30 US. Henk, do yourself a favor and ask a body shop what they charge for preping, and clearing a hood. The difference in price is what you actually made for painting the dog. I think you will cry when you get the answer. Don't sell yourself short. It will also help you feel better about charging more money. :)

Penny

[HF AIRBRUSH]

well im told that the carpainter does it for a box of beer....but when i asked the price the told me the ask 150 euro for it.....now im doing it myself for about 30 euro....and it's going great....
here's a pic of the hood cleared... :cool:

[Caterwallin']

Linda, actually I have decided on a printer, I just need to find a way to pay for it!

Henk, this looks great! I think your selling yourself short!! You should get at least 100 euro!

Sam

[christmascarolnz]

Thanks for the welcome Leaflin. Your photo of your campsite looks like New Zealand, without the tree-ferns. (Ponga).
Cheers,
Carol

[Penny220]

Henk, if you are charging 300 for the hood and the body shop would be charging 150 for the clear than you are making 150 for the dog and the lettering. It is irrelevant that you can do it for 30. 150 is the low end for the dog alone, if those are hand painted letters than you have sold yourself very short. If you painted the letters that should have brough in anywhere between 50 - 150 US, the current exchange rate is at 90 something percent. Your dog should have brought you 150 - 200 US. Your numbers are close but you are selling yourself very short. Think of it this way, anyone can clear coat a car, it doesn't take much talent and very little practice to learn, the cost of clear coat is admittedly high as you said, your cost is about 30, you are making an equal amount of money as the body shop guy and you are taking much more time, your equipment and paints cost way more, it took you much longer to learn how to do it etc etc etc Not everyone can airbrush.

[HF AIRBRUSH]

maybe your right, i haven't looked at it that way :(
i just take a look at the whole picture....those letters i have cut out of mask...

henk

[christmascarolnz]

Oh woe. I have a problem already with this airbrush. I was going ok for a while, but the finger knob when depressed doesn't spring back like I think it should. It's really sticky and you can see where the stem of it is rubbing on the side of the hole. I am so disappointed - if I take it back tomorrow I shall have to wait until Tuesday probably for a replacement/ this one to be fixed as it is Queen's Birthday weekend and a 3 day one. :crying:
I have pulled the airbrush apart and put it back together and hubby has unscrewed where you screw on the hose to see if there were anything he could do, but alas, I have to take it back.
Does anyone have any helpful suggestions on why this AB has gone like this? It has not been dropped and only handled with the most precious care.
Thanks,
Carol

[HF AIRBRUSH]

ive had that problem to ones....the seeling was leakin....so the paint went backwards trou the airbrush...so are you sure that everything is clean?...
otherwise maybe there is a spring who is not strong enough....

henk

[christmascarolnz]

Thanks Henk. I have cleaned the AB and the guy I bought it from said to put a tiny drop of fine oil on it. I did that and it helped a little.
What I found the problem to be however, was that I screwed the rocker assembly in too tight and that was what was retarding the finger piece.
Now I can get back to my practise.
Cheers,
Carol

[TopperB]

Hey, do any of you airbrush guys use an instant messanger? Like AOL, or yahoo? Anyways- I do an if anyone wants to talk about airbrush stuff or anything here are my screen names:

AIM (aol): CmdrTopper
YAHOO: CmdrTopper

[Colorfast]

Hi B:
Sorry, but if ya go wish, you can send a PM (private message) to us individually, OK? Ya see, I am still tryin' to figure out the TV here that has this typewriter below it that sends this stuff all over the world. Oh, that's right, just last week somebody told me IT was called a computer. Dave :) :) :)

[Penny220]

There is a place in your profile that you can add that information if you wish. I don't use any of them, I personally prefer PM's or email via the WC system (so I know who thier from initially).

[HF AIRBRUSH]

well today i did another demo....i got the best place there was....until i found out there were ants all over the place.....whaaa...they walked all over the painting...hahaha..
finaly i did the demo on another place....here's a pic...it's not fifnished yet...but i needed to give people an impression in just a few hours...

henk

[christmascarolnz]

Ok, now this is going to seem like a dumb question, but did you paint this from 'life'? You certainly have captured the stubbornness of the sheep. I know as I have ten of them and NZ has a very high ratio of sheep to people. :p
Cheers,
Carol

[Penny220]

Great job Henk but you didn't tell us, how was your welcome at the demo, did you get an perspective customers? Did you get any sales?

[HF AIRBRUSH]

i did the painting from a photo....i made the sketch at home first...this save's a lot of time...
and customers.....yes enough...but most of them promise me to send some photo's and i never hear of them anymore....but most of the time i keep 2 of the ten customers...so i think this will get some work for me...
But i find the demo's fun to do and i like the response of people when they see me painting...and if i get two painting out of it im happy..

henk

[Penny220]

I think the average is 1 in 10 inquire and 1 in 10 of them is an acutal buyer, making it 1 out of every 100 contacts. If you are getting 2 of 10 you are doubling the average :clap:

[Penny220]

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[Penny220]

Tim,
Glad to see your new website up and running. Good Luck. :clap:

[Khendra]

Penny, where's the difference between merit or mentor? And what does it do in the end if I give that to one person?

[Penny220]

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[Khendra]

Thank you!

[HF AIRBRUSH]

:clap: o boy...guess what ?....im getting driving lessons to get my motor driving licence....
just started and after one hour the teacher said i was born for it and that im a natural talent.......so this month i get my first two examn....and next month the last one....and then i may finaly drive a motorcycle....a little boys dream is coming true... :cool:

henk

[Caterwallin']

Congratulations Henk!

I thought you had a drivers license?
Or do you have one for cars and one for motorcycles? That's the way we are here in the states.

Sam

[HF AIRBRUSH]

yes sam , ive got my driverslicence for a car...but i always wanted to ride a bike...so now it's coming true....
today i will drive 4 hours... :p ...

henk

[Penny220]

congradulations Henk,
My sister-in-law just got her motorcycle license too, she's as happy as you are.

I just hooked up DSL I'm SOOOOOOOOooooooooo Happy :clap: Now I must go see what else is going around in the world. Dial-up had taken all of the fun out of the interent and now it's BACK!!!!!

[Khendra]

Congrats, Henk!
I can drive small motorcycles with my license: Not the big and really fast ones, but my baby makes 120km/h that's enough for me at the moment!

Does anyone read The Dark Tower by Stephen King here, too? I absolutely love that series, and today I got the latest volume, Susannah. I'd rather not put it out of my hand and read it all at once! But I have to prepare some stuff for university tomorrow *sigh* :D

[Caterwallin']

Yes, I love motorcycles! But around here, fast or slow/big or small, they are the quickest way to funeral home! The drivers here have no respect for motorcycles and they do not watch out for them! Heck, for that matter they don't watch out for anything!

In surgery we call them "murdercycles" or "donorcycles"! Sad but incredibly true! I have a friend who rides, and he is in at least two accidents per year and suffers at least one major broken bone per year! I keep telling him that he is pushing his luck!

As much as I love to ride motorcycles, it's not worth the risk for me!

Khendra, I love to read. I have never read Stephen King. He's not my usual choice. I'm glad you take the time to escape your studies and read for pleasure!


Sam

[Penny220]

Sam,
Come to NY and you will see that motorcycle accidents are usually the fault of the motorcycle.

Be that as it may, I grew up riding and I love it. Motorcyclists shouldn't be blamed for the actions of the few.

Now on to the next topic.

I'm updating my webpage and adding an artists link page. If anyone is interested in a reciprocal link please email me with your website link and the description you would like added.

[HF AIRBRUSH]

:( i don't have my licence yet......im taking lessons...
next monday i have my first examen....and at the end of the month the second...and next month the last one...

but!!!!...i already bought myself a motorcycle......

henk

[Khendra]

You'll make it, Henk, no doubt! :) Hey, I made it at age 16, so it'll be easy for you :D And having the bike already around can only mean luck for you ;)

Sam, that's part of why I wouldn't want to be a surgeon! I think I'd give up on motorcycles sooner or later. So far I've been really lucky and nothing ever happened to me *knocks on wood* It's pretty easy to die here by motorcycling, too. When I was younger I didn't care much and mostly rode my bike in short skirts and top (but it was a smaller and slower bike)- now I'm trying to grow up and wear protection clothes :D

I love Stephen King's way of story telling. But usually I can't sleep for days or weeks after reading his stuff! So I don't read it that much. But Dark Tower is fantasy, not horror, and it's my favourite books after Lord of the Rings.
I used to eat books, I think I've read most of my lifetime from age 5 to 19 :D University kind of stopped that and now I'm only reading occasionally, it's really sad and I miss it. But I'm determined to start reading again after that exam in August! What kind of stuff do you read? I love fantasy and science fiction.

Penny, as my page is in German I doubt that it would be of much use! And no artistic stuff up there :rolleyes:

Okay, I'm talking too much. Better get off to sleep now. Good night! :)

[Penny220]

Okay, I'm talking too much. Better get off to sleep now. Good night! :)

Youth and caffeine, what a wonderful combination LOL :D

[Khendra]

That was WITHOUT caffeine *lol* just pray I'll never come here with a caffeine flash! :D

[Penny220]

This is becoming a bit of a problem so I'm going to post what can and can't be posted. You can find the link to WC quidelines on posting here http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/rules.php

To make a long story short, you can post a link to your website in you signature line, you can post a link to your website in a thread for non-commercial purposes but for the most part you shouldn't be posting links to other sites.

If there is ever a question please contact a moderator prior to posting. :)