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Gollator
09-19-2001, 05:43 PM
I won't explain anything.

But I would like to hear what you feel.
What you see.

Take care,
Gollator

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Sep-2001/dream.jpg
"Mommy, tonight I had this dream again... - Shh!"

jerryW
09-19-2001, 07:25 PM
i usually get your allegories wrong.
here children are being taught to lie to themselves or be destroyed.
all perfectly natural

Gollator
09-20-2001, 05:05 AM
Jerry: I do get me wrong, too (if that helps you).
Because I draw things like this without thinking rational (There should be a guy with a gun, now. That feels right. No wait, three guys...standing in the back. A hand in the wood like...nail in the hand?...no. that's stupid. But it's a skeleton one. Yeah, skeleton.)
Inspiration is when you forget where you have it from *laugh*.


I liked your interpretation. I think it comes close to the one of my subconsciousness.

Thanks for looking.

MelG
09-20-2001, 05:32 AM
It immediatly rang the word "execution" to my head.
Secrecy, fear and a weird sense of calmness in the midst of all, like knowing what is happening, like having awerness of the future and calmly awaiting it.
Being in peace with the knowledge of upcoming death. (that is what I see by looking at the man in brown on the right which seems to be handcuffed by the man in blue, who seems to cover his face)

Gollator
09-20-2001, 05:40 AM
Mel:
Which is an extremely interesting viewpoint.
I can see the execution now, too. And I agree on the mood of calmness. Thanks for your eyes.

Ladysue
09-20-2001, 01:02 PM
Something awfull happened. No one's looking, they are in this by themselves...the younger child is broken and the repairman is trying to fix him (I know that sounds stupid...but somehow, it's the first thing I saw) The mom is also the dad, her burden is heavy and she is suppored by the older child who tags along but could easily turn its head the other way like every other character in this picture.....

I'd call it, family crisis.

But that's just me.

Gollator
09-21-2001, 07:46 AM
No, it doesn't sound stupid. Doesn't at all.

Family crisis, I see. Another interesting approach.

3 rather different viewpoints. I still do not know my own, but you gave me great hints.
Everything is wrong, everything is right. Thanks all for your time and your comments.

4vincent
09-21-2001, 08:35 AM
Don't know for sure...

When I tie the title in, I get execution too. However, the "executed" appears to have an angel's wing. Perhaps the child is speaking the truth which only comes through the innocence of childhood; and the truth is silenced.

Does this make any sense?:confused: Ken

Gollator
09-21-2001, 08:43 AM
Yes it does. Excellent! Fantastic!

Please show me the wing. Do you mean the angels in the right upper corner? I thought one cannot distinguish them from the background in this scan...

Gollator
09-21-2001, 08:49 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2001/angel.jpg

Gollator
09-21-2001, 09:08 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2001/mommy.jpg

Gollator
09-21-2001, 09:44 AM
I see the wing now. (Though the image was not transferred with)

Very interesting indeed.

There is no "correct" way to read this image,
because it is abstract,
because it deals with allegories
understood
and noticed differently
by different persons, with different experiences and different backgrounds.

If you see the education, you are right.
If you see the execution, you are right.
If you see family crisis, you are right.

Just because I painted this I am in no position to say "Your viewpoint is wrong" but merely "Your viewpoint differs with mine".
(I am still not sure of my own.)

Thanks for your view.

P.S.:
May I post this to the thread additionally?


4vincent wrote on 09-21-2001 03:02 PM:
Hi,

I don't iknow if I had even "read" your image correctly when I commented in the forum.. The "wing" was possibly negative space.
It just appeared to me that the individual was being "prepped" for execution and he appeared to be an angel. On hand held behind him while one outstretched to display his beseeching innocence.

in case you don't get the image, the figure is on the left, with the figure behind (in blue) making
the wing shape via negavtive space.

Gollator
09-21-2001, 09:45 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2001/mommy2.jpg

pampe
09-21-2001, 10:57 AM
Before I scrolled to the bottom and the photo, I got more and more nauseous......feeling this painting could be a foretelling of US conditions in the near future..


no execution for me.....just war at home for the first time...

nuff said

Pam

Gollator
09-21-2001, 11:37 AM
Yes. The foul scent of war is in the air.
Things will change.
Not for the good side, I guess,
but I still hope so.

Gollator
09-21-2001, 11:38 AM
Maybe it is the dream of freedom and peace that is to shut up here.

dornberg
09-21-2001, 11:42 PM
i like the patterns
of steel blues
flesh color shapes
and the extending brown

Impulse
09-22-2001, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Gollator
Yes. The foul scent of war is in the air.
Things will change.
Not for the good side, I guess,
but I still hope so.

shhh...

the painting is very expressive
and grips us with the sense of the darkness of the occasion
the title ties in well

Gollator
09-23-2001, 09:34 PM
dornberg, impulse: Thanks for looking and commenting. Much appreciated.

cleo
09-24-2001, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by pampe
no execution for me.....just war at home for the first time...

nuff said

Pam

I'm not sure, please explain?
cleo

Mud Mixer Linda
09-26-2001, 03:55 AM
Out of the mouths of babes - If we don't speak or hear the truth, we don't have to -what- admit it to ourselves- give up hope- face the inevidible?

BlossomArt
09-26-2001, 10:29 AM
Children often speak the truth. As adults, if the truth is too horrific to even think about, we don't want to hear it. This is why children get "shushed" so often.

To me, the object they're viewing (at the bottom of the painting) looks like an outstretched hand (almost skeletal) - maybe someone lying, off canvas, who we can't see? Wounded? Dead? Your painting is all-over very moving and intriguing.

Gollator
09-26-2001, 02:03 PM
Mud mixer Linda: Honored to have your first post on wc :)
I assume all three variants are correct.
BlossomArt:
Yes, it is a sceletal hand, I planned a nail in it, but then decided against it in advance for subtility.

Thanks a lot.