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09-18-2001, 10:05 PM
Thanks to all of you who made suggestions on how to"yellow up" my green roses. I did manage to bring that hint of yellow back in. However I think I reached the point of having the left side looking forced and muddy compared to the roses on the right which I did last and seemed to get more of the knack. I'll keep this one as a reminder of the good lessons I learned and may come back to it later to try "saving" techniques such as scratching or the faucet.
Wish me luck on the second effort of this sketch coming up!
09-18-2001, 10:32 PM
How heavy is your Arches. I have found that I can use an exacto knife on areas of 300 lb. It is a tough paper. Just another note. Have you tried running your painting under a spray of warm water. This has rescued things for me. Life is learning so don't round file you piece. I cut mine up and make greeting cards out of them.
09-19-2001, 03:15 AM
hey boarsrock ! This is too early to trash it yet. I think what I would do is take scrap paper and duplicate the green roses... and try some strong red paint right up beside the darkest parts of the green and some peachy/orange over the yellow... some green left maybe wouldn't hurt but if it looks funny take the red and wash over the green to make a dark gray which would be common thing to see in roses. if that doesn't look good, try some other combinations on scrap paper. I dislike reworking on scraped paper... it just seems to lose something. I have used the tip miss mouse said ... sprayed with the kitchen utility hose will remove an amazing amount of paint. good luck!
09-19-2001, 06:06 AM
I like your green roses... I like Malarkey suggestions also.
If it were me, I would try to use orange to complement these greens and purple, of course it would not be realist... By the way, surely there are green roses, don't you think? I am sure I have seen hybrids somewhere...
Well I found green roses but they don't look like roses at all!
09-19-2001, 08:05 AM
I cannot offer any advice on how to get rid of the green, and I learned too from the advice you already have. But have some suggestions for what to do if it doesn't work on your painting.
I know the whole idea was that the roses given for the anniversary were yellow so :-
If the 'washing' gets rid of a good portion of the green, make which roses you can yellow and leave some with green in them. It will give variety to the roses and may highlight the yellow ones.
If nothing works, start again, but do not scrap this one, it is such a good start :) Turn it into a painting of red or orange roses then you will get practice at these colors and could end up with a second lovely painting.
Good luck with your solutions !
09-19-2001, 10:34 AM
Arches is tough...as long as you are using non-staining color, you can remove just about anything....I'd try that first for the roses
Nice composition and the sofa/chair is nicely done.
Or take the comments above and make your roses wonderfully unusual!!!
09-19-2001, 11:35 AM
I have taken 300lb arches and soaked it in the bathtub, and then taken a brush for baby's hair and lightly removed the color from the surface, while the paper is still under water.
Took it out, and pressed it under a sheet of plexiglass,between old pillowcases, weighted with books and bricks.
I got a great underpainting that way. I used the technique 7 times on one painting to build a series of glazes, and the surface held up really nicely.
09-20-2001, 01:31 AM
If you use an old worn out oil paint brush, an erasing shield and lots of clean water you can take the rose's back to almost white on Arches 300 lb paper. Scrub with clean water, blot with paper towel and repeat as necessary. Depending on the colors you used to arive at the green will depend on how much staineing of the paper has been done. Hope this helps to salvage your work.
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