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Titanium
04-16-2004, 06:44 AM
Good Day to All,

Well here's a very experimental painting.

TIME

being done on 100 % polyester[sail cloth]
with a Titanium/Barium Sulfate in linseed oil
white ground on a mahogany panel.

Started off as 43x54" later on expanded to
46x57" to give more of the landscape feel.

Paint is hand mulled.
Colours are,

Titanium/zinc white[has 5% stand oil/95%walnut oil]

Mars yellow light

Mars red cold.

Iron oxide Blue black.

All colours are mulled in walnut oil.
This is a tropical climate[West Indies/Caribbean]
and walnut dries at the speed of linseed [overnight
in thin coats].Linseed dries even faster and is a
pain to deal with.

Paint is applied straight from the tube.
Paint is mulled to the consistency of what
comes out of a tube of Colgate toothpaste.

First layer.
Image drawn by hand in mars yellow light,
lightened with white.Thinned with mineral
spirits.

Second layer.
Colours are applied straight from the tube
and quite a few Eterna bristle brushes die.
All colours are mixed with white to give a
pastel effect.
[But I didn't need to do this as I later
realised,old habits die hard.]


Image shown is the third layer.Red of man's
outfit being applied at close to nature's effect
of colour/tone.

I have a prepared colour study to work from.
Also a cartoon in charcoal and indelible pencil.
Plus some of you may have see the Black and
White - TIME.
There are also numerous drawn studies of
individual items.

This took two days at 8hrs per day to cover.
Enjoy.
Titanium

Titanium
04-16-2004, 07:02 AM
Well it's four days later.

In this image you can see the colour study.
On the side you can see how I used to
transfer an image using a blown up photocopy.
Now I am just drawing in thinned paint.

What I should have done was to colour the
entire ground around the figures in,for the
earth,rocks and tree,the green mix of mars
yellow light and blue black iron oxide.
The sky should have been white and blue black
iron oxide.

Like I said old habits die hard.
So many hours wasted.Sigh.

Much of my time will be spent getting the big
image to look like the colour study[done from
life and imagination/memory].

Notes to myself.
The effect is the most important feature here,
once the figures are more or less correct.

The image is of the painting before it was
expanded.Had to crop to fit the image to this
post.
Enjoy.
Titanium

Titanium
04-16-2004, 07:37 AM
About 6 days later.

More or less the image matches the colour
study.
I could have been at this stage since day
2,but at least I understand how the Old
Masters could have moved with such speed
if they wanted to.

Painting is now at full size.
I am adding a touch of medium to the paint
mixes to counter for the ground sucking in
the binder and to maintain some of the rich
colouring needed to keep on working.

Medium is 2/3 walnut oil to 1/3 stand oil.
A touch is the tip of the brush dipped in
the medium added to the amount of paint
that would cover an American quarter to
half an inch.
I have a friend who suggested that stand
oil might react with all other oil in the paint
to polymerise it-unproven theory.
However industrial practice shows that a
little stand oil goes a long way.

You may need to brighten your screen.
Not sure what this image looks like to you.

In the red outfit of the standing figure,his
right side,I have applied a very thinned
mix of medium [ 1 medium to 5 or 6 mineral
spirits]to oil out.
This I will leave alone to see how long it will
take to be absorbed by the painting.

Normally at the end of the day my oiling out
will have fed itself into the paint.
This consistency has to be adjusted for every
painting.

As I add layers,I add more information.
Enjoy.
Titanium

Titanium
04-16-2004, 07:58 AM
Here's a portion.
Enjoy.
Titanium

Titanium
04-16-2004, 08:26 AM
Most HUMBLE apologies.
To fit the image I had to put it
sideways.
[500x600 set for Portrait? ,not
Landscape???]


The oil colour sketch.
8x10"

Took about 3 weeks working from
life/imagination/memory.

Done on liquin coated brown paper.

Palette colours.
Titanium/Zinc White
Mars Yellow Light
Mars Red[warm]
Mars Red[cold]
Iron Oxide Blue Black
Perm.Lemon Yellow [Rembrandt]

You can see the colours in the little colour
squares on the side of the painting.

Picture had to be heavily -liquin-ed-
to hold the gloss,then varnished.

Questions or Comments[Yay or Nay]?
Enjoy.
Titanium

Trisha H
04-16-2004, 10:25 AM
I really like that! - would love to see it full size hanging on a wall.

The colours and light are great & it was so nice to get all the stages in virtually one go! Thanks.

Any particular reason to use polyester & is it different to work on once primed ?

Trisha.

Eugene Veszely
04-16-2004, 11:22 AM
Interesting work..thanks for sharing :)

JeffG
04-16-2004, 01:06 PM
very illuminating

arlene
04-16-2004, 03:04 PM
it's good to see other methods. thanks.

artmom
04-17-2004, 12:21 AM
Very interesting WIP. Thanks for sharing.

Lyn

bri
04-17-2004, 11:19 AM
"...Paint is applied straight from the tube....".

That's nice, especially for not using brushes! :p

(you know i'm kidding here)

how did your little houses turn out? i've been absent for a while. i didn't know if you posted them anywhere?

Titanium
04-17-2004, 02:02 PM
Hello to All,

Trisha,
polyester is supposed to be very invulnerable
to most things.It is sailcloth-chuckle.

Needs no rabbit skin glue or pva,and accepts
the oil priming easily.
The texture takes getting used to,but then I
figure you can apply the oil priming smoothly
and press canvas into the priming to get the
texture of the weave.

As a plus your shadow side would be quiet
due to the fine weave and you could make the
lights pretty loud with impasto/texture.

Painting on it thus far is nothing difficult.

Perhaps when I am finished I can send the
oil sketch to you as a memory gift ??

Bri,

I haven't been around for a while either.
[Everyone I knew seems to be gone]
Been working on the 15x25' 3 story
"garage".All re-enforced concrete.
Left a little image below for you to see.
Situated on hill looking out to the
morning sun and sea.

To all others thank you.

Here is a portion of the Cartoon.
It's brown paper,but I have scanned in
black and white.
As you can see this was not the original
head for the standing figure.

See you folks next week Friday.
Enjoy.
Titanium

Trisha H
04-17-2004, 02:09 PM
Bri,

How very kind of you! - I'd be absolutely delighted - and honoured!

Thank you too for explaining about the polyester sailcloth.
There's a pretty comprehensive canvas store in London, do things for all purposes, so I'll check them out - see if I can get a yard of it!
I like to try any possibilities.

Trisha.

bjs0704
04-20-2004, 05:56 PM
Titanium

Your painting is beautiful now and it can only get better! Thanks for letting us see this as a WIP, I am learning quite a bit from it.

Barb Solomon:cat:

Classical Vince
04-20-2004, 08:15 PM
Thanks for all the great information on your working practices Titanium. Great to see the technique and learn about the palette and mediums you use.

Does anyone (besides T) know where the title of this thread came from?! Brought back a lot of midnight-memories for me! :p :D :music:

loop
04-21-2004, 12:22 PM
Titanium, thanks for showing us your process, I'm not sure I have ever seen any other works of yours here. it's something good to study from



Does anyone (besides T) know where the title of this thread came from?! Brought back a lot of midnight-memories for me! :p :D :music:



Quincy.... that's all I can think of but I don't ever remember him ever saying it ?

lenu
04-21-2004, 05:40 PM
Might or might not be Quincy, but I'll wager it has something to do with forensic (Yikes! Where's my spellchecker?) science.

Len

Classical Vince
04-21-2004, 05:57 PM
Quincy.... that's all I can think of but I don't ever remember him ever saying it ?

Hint: I see you shiver with antici - (4 seconds) - pation.

arlene
04-21-2004, 06:04 PM
:music: Let's do the time warp againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn :music:

LOL...Yep spent many a midnights under an umbrella. And I'm not going to give it away, k Vince? But you know I know it.

David Brown
04-22-2004, 07:45 AM
"It's just a jump to the Left..."
&
"I'm just a sweet Transvestite from Transylvania"

So that was you guys throwing the toast....hump! I thought it was someone else! LOL

Titanium
04-24-2004, 08:57 AM
Good Morning to All,

well,this has been an exercise,to discover the time taken to
reach what I would call the mood in the painting.Or what you see[the general effect]before you see the "details".

It's just about day 8/9.I have stopped counting.

Everything is in that needs to be there for the in-painting to begin.

With regards to the chess pieces and the lamp lighter in the back,I had a choice of removing the paint,where these objects would be placed,right down to the white canvas or
laying down an opaque coat of white.
I chose to lay down two coats of opacifying white.Since it's
a titanium mix,I don't expect any change with age,so the
objects should retain their luminous qualities.[I read about this with Titian's work.]

I have added - Blue Ochre[source Doak,mulled in walnut oil]as my blue,finding the Ultramarine too dominant to use.

The in-painting will show very little change so I am disappearing for about a month to do it.

Here's comes the impasto--- I hope - ha ha ha.

I can safely say I understand what my studio training in Sight-Size,North Light,Cast,Bargue,Model,Hand Mulling...
was supposed to do.The cartoon part was an earlier training I picked up from books on Raphael,but only barely understood.

When next I start a new WIP,it will be the Dancers[already
in the archives,see under topics started by Titanium],which
already has the cartoon,in the beginning stages.
It's an early morn image,thus far-- who knows??

That should answer your question -- LOOP

Vince I enjoyed your mass drawn Monkey.
I also had a week of the mass drawing where the entire paper was covered in charcoal and the lights were picked out.
We did it just for a - refreshing- change.
That was one pose - 3 hours daily, for five days.
Model resting every 20 minutes or so for 15 minutes.

Here is the image,canvas at full size[you can see the folded
lines from the previous stretching up top.]

I have tried to show you what the painting really looks like,but the light is still reflecting aggressively at the upper 1/3 of the image.
Anyhow enjoy.
Titanium

*Little later, a few sketches

Titanium
04-24-2004, 09:30 AM
Here are a few sketches for the image.

1] Head of the monkey king.

2]Lamp Lighter

3]Jade Figures

4]Shrubbery

5]How it began

Enjoy
Titanium

guillot
04-25-2004, 01:04 AM
Lovely T!!!!!

Tina