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E-J
03-31-2004, 04:26 PM
A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Heart of glass
Project Leader: E-J
Relative Difficulty: Irrelevant
Type Restrictions: Painting
Medium: Pastels
Subject: Still Life
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

Have you ever been tempted to try your hand at painting the sparkle and transparency of glass, but felt it was too daunting and too difficult? The reflective surfaces of glass and other transparent objects may seem scary at first but they are GREAT fun to paint in pastels!

This project is aimed at encouraging you to practise using your pastels (soft, hard, dry or oil) to paint glass objects. Just think how much more adventurous your still lifes will be when you have the confidence to tackle a crystal vase ... a drinking glass ... a pair of spectacles ... a magnifying glass ... a wine bottle ... or that most obvious of see-through things: a window!

You may use one of the reference images provided, one of your own photos or - better still - work directly from life.

In THE PASTEL BOOK, Bill Creevy tells us, "It is much easier to render transparent containers if they appear to have something inside them." Filling an old perfume or ink bottle with coloured water, or pouring a little wine into a glass, will reveal its form more clearly (pun intended!) and allow you to see and paint it more easily. Of course, whether you paint the glass half-empty or half-full is entirely up to you ...

So how can we paint something which appears to have no colour? Claude Monet had some advice which may help. He said: "Merely think, 'here is a little square of blue, here an oblong of pink, here a streak of yellow', and paint it just as it looks to you." In other words, forget that it's glass and start by painting the coloured shapes that you can see through it. Highlights to indicate the surface of the glass are most effective when added last.

Don't forget, when posting your progress or finished entries, to share with the rest of us what you feel you have learned!

Additional Information:

For more information on the project: Click here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=667)

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

Dyin
03-31-2004, 05:02 PM
E-J...cool project! Glass is one of those things where you really do paint what you see...but boy, those eliptic circles!!! I'll sign up, but am still nursing Boots after his eye operation so will be awhile.

E-J
03-31-2004, 05:04 PM
Cheers Sue! Hope to see you take part.

I hope lots of you will be inspired to attempt glass for this Project, if it's something you haven't tried before - and that those of you who are more experienced will be able to share your process for doing so! Let's challenge ourselves and have some fun.

For some reason the project 'edit' facility won't let me put any more ref photos in tonight but rest assured that I WILL be adding more. In the meantime, inspiration could already be right in front of you ... that drinking glass on the table, for instance ... Set it in some good directional light where you can see it clearly ... pour a little something into it (hey, we're going to need a reward after painting, right?) ... grab your pastels and let's get right to the heart of GLASS! :)

E-J
03-31-2004, 05:31 PM
So to get us started I thought I'd share some of my own adventures with pastel and glass.

Something I've noticed is how effective a strong light/dark contrast can be in bringing out the 'glassiness' of the subject! I think glass #3 in these three sketches of wine glasses has more 'oomph' because of this (what can I say? I always seem to have a glass of wine to hand ...)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Mar-2004/13865-3glasses.jpg

Those were just for fun, as quick explorations of the subject. Here are two more considered pieces. The first is a crystal bowl, from a photo in the Image Library:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2003/13865-grapes_sml.jpg

The second is a fake carnation in a little glass pot, done from life. Notice how the glass picks up the colours around it - the pink of the background seen through it AND the green of the stems reflecting on its edges.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2003/13865-carnation.jpg

E-J
03-31-2004, 06:01 PM
Dawn, Sue, Kat, skintone and SBJ - thanks for signing up!

prestonsega
03-31-2004, 06:22 PM
Glass is something I have successfully avoided, either as the subject or prop. I'm sure this is going to be a great learning experience. The ref pics you have already posted are great!

Kathryn Wilson
03-31-2004, 07:03 PM
So far E-J, I've only done one glass and that was a wine glass. It was quite an experience, but enjoyed it immensely. I did learn that the glass itself has no color, but takes on the background that you see through it.

I did eventually go on to finish this and it sold at an fundraiser auction.

SweetBabyJ
03-31-2004, 07:36 PM
Do mirrors count? No? Darn the luck!

*sigh* Goes and rummages through her "stuff" cupboard.....

weckster
03-31-2004, 11:31 PM
I like the idea of this...here is one of my first oil pastels, done in January when I got some Cray pas expressionist to try out. I have two pieces at home that I can try to do in SP or OP...One is a crystal decoration of a vase with tulips, and the other is a beautiful blue Czech crystal bowl I was given last year. May as well see how I can ruin their beauty :evil:

Cheers E-J

Dyin
03-31-2004, 11:35 PM
I like the idea of this...here is one of my first oil pastels, done in January when I got some Cray pas expressionist to try out. I have two pieces at home that I can try to do in SP or OP...One is a crystal decoration of a vase with tulips, and the other is a beautiful blue Czech crystal bowl I was given last year. May as well see how I can ruin their beauty :evil:

Cheers E-J


looks like glass to me, great job!...i've only done glass in SP so far...ooooh....would love to see the Czech bowl!

bogbeast
04-01-2004, 01:30 AM
Sounds like a good challenge, so I'm in! It will be a few days before I can get started, tho, as I need to finish some other things first...

Dark_Shades
04-01-2004, 02:05 AM
Well here are 3 old ones I have done......... lol EJ, you should be proud of me on the first one........ Done from Life!!! :eek: :D

hmmmmmm alcohol seems to feature strongly :evil:

MKathleen
04-01-2004, 02:40 AM
I think this is my only soft pastel painting with clear glass as part of the composition. I painted this from a still life set up of local flowers growing around our Stone Ridge Community...no I didn't take them from anyones garden. lol It was fun rendering the glass and seeing just how far my ability could take me to make the glass look clear and show the stems and leaves of the plants thru the clear glass.
Think I'll try some crystal this time...

Geoff
04-01-2004, 03:37 AM
I shall probably regret this, but nothing ventured nothing gained. After all it may show me whether I am cut out for colour, or should stick to pencil and white paper.

E-J
04-01-2004, 03:50 AM
Thanks to everyone who's posted their 'glassworks' for us to see and analyze!

Geoff
04-01-2004, 10:15 AM
I've loaded 2 into the progress pile, but all I'm getting is the "x" missing file marker, but I know they are there because I can see them if I go to edit the post.
Anyone else see them ????

SweetBabyJ
04-01-2004, 10:32 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=35245

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

I see 'em Geoff when I use the browse all entries feature. And you've not bitten off more than you can chew- trust me. You've got the eye- now just remain true to what you SEE. No matter what something *is*, remain true to what you see.

Use your photo ref now only to help you sort out a puzzling angle or shine- something which is confusing to catch in 3-D- try to look at everything else right there in front of you.

Dark_Shades
04-01-2004, 10:36 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

I can see them too!...... will look forward to the colour going on ........ looking good

Kathryn Wilson
04-01-2004, 10:40 AM
Excellent start Geoff! The way this Project has exploded overnight, I know it's going to be a good one E-J!

Geoff
04-01-2004, 10:44 AM
a question - to blend or not to blend ???
if to blend, then unblended stokes to get the highlights and extra darks ??

SweetBabyJ
04-01-2004, 10:54 AM
Geoff, use whatever technique gives you the look you want- sometimes that'll be a different technique in different places. For myself, if I find layering the pastels is not giving me enough "blend", enough smooth colour- I'll blend 'em by hand or tool, but usually stroking one into the other over and over works. Heres a hint, though: Keep your lightest areas CLEAN, and try not to do 'em till last. Also, avoid using white for highlights unless you must- usually even though they "look" white, such a highlight is warm or cool- try to find a light warm or cool and use that instead. Light yellow SINGS out against nearly any other hue, as does a very pale blue. Save white for if you really, really need it- 'cause you can't go lighter from there.

Alachua Artist
04-01-2004, 11:07 AM
I still have the "Painting Without a Net" project to finish! Well ok ... with glazed eyes and dirty glasses, let alone smudged paper and more asprin... I'm in.

Geoff
04-01-2004, 12:19 PM
Geoff, use whatever technique gives you the look you want- sometimes that'll be a different technique in different places. For myself, if I find layering the pastels is not giving me enough "blend", enough smooth colour- I'll blend 'em by hand or tool, but usually stroking one into the other over and over works. Heres a hint, though: Keep your lightest areas CLEAN, and try not to do 'em till last. Also, avoid using white for highlights unless you must- usually even though they "look" white, such a highlight is warm or cool- try to find a light warm or cool and use that instead. Light yellow SINGS out against nearly any other hue, as does a very pale blue. Save white for if you really, really need it- 'cause you can't go lighter from there.

Thanks SBJ
Hopefullu you'll all see something in the near ( or distant ) future.
I've still got plenty of time, recuperating, so I have no excuse - 'cept the April figure challenge.
:music:

E-J
04-01-2004, 02:09 PM
The edit functions for my Project don't seem to be co-operating with me and the ref images I uploaded this evening aren't appearing anywhere ... must be because they're glass ... transparent ... you can't see 'em, ha ha :D

Instead, I have added links to 3 more great glass pics in the Ref Library to the main detail page for the project. All you need to do to access them is to click here (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=667) and you should see the 3 new links!

E-J
04-01-2004, 02:30 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=35245

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

Bravo Geoff! I can see that you've identified the various shapes in your glass, each with its own tonal value - now all you have to do is translate them into colour ... "all you have to do", she says :D but yep, each of those little and not-so-little shapes has its own colour .... so which should you put in first? If you haven't already started (and if you have, no worries) I would suggest that a good place to begin might be with the areas of blue drape you can see through the glass.

SBJ's advice is very sound!

weckster
04-01-2004, 02:50 PM
looks like glass to me, great job!...i've only done glass in SP so far...ooooh....would love to see the Czech bowl!

...I must admit, I got out the glass flowers last night to do...just tooooooo hard :eek:

Think it will be the glass bowl.

If I get my act together I'll post digital pictures of both (with other stuff to make it a bit interesting)

weckster
04-01-2004, 02:56 PM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

Great start Geoff! I'm looking forward to a bit of colour in it too (did you say you were colour blind? :D )

Alachua Artist
04-01-2004, 03:11 PM
... I have added links to 3 more great glass pics in the Ref Library to the main detail page for the project...

Thanks for these additional reference photos. I'm going to attempt the pitcher, although I really like the light play on the crystal vases against the blue cloth.

No, I don't have enough asprin to paint both! :D

Alachua Artist
04-01-2004, 03:16 PM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

Great rendering for your start! And could you have set up a more complicated still-life? This will be a good one to follow.

I know we are supposed to do underpaintings, and study drawings, or thumbnails before we paint, but sometimes I just jump in live with full blown color. Must be my mild type-A personality...

E-J
04-01-2004, 03:55 PM
A few guidelines to help you get started

1. Forget that your glass object is transparent! Don't think you have to somehow 'see' the transparency. Observe instead the colours that are visible through it and reflected off it; these colours will come from the object's surroundings - like the blue drape in Geoff's setup, or the overhanging grapes in my painting of the crystal bowl. These colours will hit your subject from all angles: in my carnation picture, you can see how the green stems and pink petals have cast their colours onto the narrow rim of the little glass vase below them.

2. Bill Creevy in THE PASTEL BOOK suggests that you think of a glass object as a sort of outline around your background colours: one side of the outline will tend to be darker, the opposite side lighter. Incidentally, TPB is a great general reference book on pastel techniques, accessories and approaches and the chapter on 'Achieving transparent effects' has certainly helped me when trying my hand at glass.

3. Working with your pastels from dark to light, as SBJ suggested, and saving the sharpest, brightest lights for last will help you to keep your highlights (and your colours in general) sparkly clean. You may find that highlights on the front of a glass object are most effective when added last and blending is kept to a minimum. Don't forget that light shining through a glass object casts light, bright reflections on the surfaces near it too - as in the green reflection on the table-top in my carnation painting.

4. I have found that using strong contrasts and vibrant colours make glass look glassier - compare my third wine-glass sketch above to the other two. Bill Creevy seems to agree! He points out in his book that as colours often appear clearer and brighter when seen through glass, you should try exaggerating them.

Dyin
04-02-2004, 12:33 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/29946/tn_cologneglass.JPG

excellent glass effect and love the colors!

Dyin
04-02-2004, 12:36 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6479/tn_glass_pastel_challange%232.gif

Excellent sketch and all you need to do is lay those pastels in by value and hue and forget the subject....you'll chew it up and spit out a masterpiece!

prestonsega
04-02-2004, 01:44 AM
I posted 2 wip's tonight. I had a bunch of fun rumaging around for that perfect piece of glass. I went for some smooth surface glass objects as opposed to the much prettier multifaceted ones. I've got my eyes on that glass jar of pickles in the back of the refridgerator also.... :rolleyes: hmm

bogbeast
04-02-2004, 02:01 AM
ooohh, the pickel jar! what a great idea!

I'm not sure whether I want to do the pretty color bottles, or the photo with the pitcher in the mirror, or rummage under the sink ( and in the frige)...

I'm impressed already with all the posted pix!

E-J
04-02-2004, 02:46 AM
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One hour?? Holy hell Preston, this is terrific!! You have no reason to avoid glass ever again! :clap:

E-J
04-02-2004, 03:02 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/19147/tn_sand_castle_in_glass_2.JPG

I remember this one, Sue ... and I remember it reminding me of the Creevy comment about painting glass containers with something in them.

I like the delicacy of this one. The glass is convincing enough for the eye to simply accept that it's glass while focusing on the sandcastle and other delightful little details inside. Thanks for posting it!

Dark_Shades
04-02-2004, 03:12 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/29946/tn_snapshot.jpg

Lol..... to your comments Prest :) ..... this is looking great as is your other one....... love the colour choices on both, and the feel you have got...... both are going to be great

E-J
04-02-2004, 06:55 AM
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LOL Preston :D

Can't believe you've done so much already. Which part will you work on next?

Kathryn Wilson
04-02-2004, 07:10 AM
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I didn't see that initial until you mentioned it! I love the wall texture and admire the looseness that use in your painting technique - you make it look easy.

Alachua Artist
04-02-2004, 09:53 AM
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Ah yes, the old visions occurance! Ha!! But all letters aside, you need not worry about what you think you see. It's a fantastic work already, let alone calling it a "start" for now. Your style of working the pastels impresses me, so loose and easy. You work the entire painting, not just top to bottom (that's my anal-retentive approach). This is going to pull together very well.

and no more "P-ing" in the pitcher! :evil:

Geoff
04-02-2004, 10:37 AM
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Definitely delicate and simple. No doubt about this being of glass.

Glad you're all confident about my intending effort. Haven't started it yet, had trouble a plenty with another project I've started and a leak in the cold water tank.
I expect I'll be jumping in head first, some day soon ( glass project that is, not the tank LOL ).

Geoff
04-03-2004, 02:23 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/34829/tn_glass_pitcher%2C_mirror_pastel.jpg

Stunning.
Wonder if there is any way the reflection should be lighter/darker than the original - just so it shows. ( BTW I'm no expert ).

Geoff
04-03-2004, 02:25 AM
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Great colours in this one - the highlights really sparkle.

Kathryn Wilson
04-03-2004, 06:16 AM
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Wow, this is amazing work Celia! When I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was the photo. Very well done - :clap:

Dark_Shades
04-03-2004, 06:59 AM
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Very nice.... like the subtle hints of colour

E-J
04-03-2004, 07:20 AM
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Nice work, Celia - I thought your thumbnail image was the ref photo too! :clap:

I was thinking about Geoff's comment regarding the reflection being lighter/darker and I went back to look at the ref photo ... the reflection of the jug, including the portion of the reflection seen through the real jug, is a good deal lighter than you have it here. Whether or not you feel you need to reflect that (no pun intended) in your version is entirely up to you - what you have here is super!

How many colours did you use?

soap
04-03-2004, 07:54 AM
Great project EJ - well done! I'll sign up because I don't think I've ever painted glass (well, maybe in the school days...) and would love to give this a go!! I don't have a clue when I have time to do this, but I might be able to steal a few hours in the evening.

Love all those entries so far!
Again, excellent project EJ!

Dyin
04-03-2004, 09:50 AM
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What a great job! This is a great one for people who are hesitant because they think glass is too hard...you got right to the nitty gritty and it came out great!

irish artist
04-03-2004, 05:30 PM
I think I'll sign up and break out the oil pastel sets I bought on sale to try out, my oil painting class is on spring break and I've been surfing all through this WC! looking for inspiration. "Heart of Glass" caught my eye and the ref. photos..........out of sight, er, eye sight. :D

SweetBabyJ
04-03-2004, 07:10 PM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/9169/tn_copperandblueglass.jpg

I liked the copper against the blues and greens- the little cobalt-blue jar is ceramic, the very tall piece on the left an old laboratory beaker. The wine bottles are from Germany. (I wanted to use my oldest one with a glass stopper, but it is fairly squat, dark green, and just didn't look good in the composition.) The little copper-footed dish is "vaseline" glass, glass that has uranium in it so it glows green under a black light. Weird stuff; one of my sisters collects it, but I decided not to send her this one....

prestonsega
04-03-2004, 09:52 PM
I stand in awe...(sp?).......I can't find fault with this work...and don't have enough time or space to address all the elements that are superb!!!!! What are the dimisions?

Dyin
04-03-2004, 10:02 PM
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You GO, girl!!!!

SweetBabyJ
04-03-2004, 10:03 PM
I stand in awe...(sp?).......I can't find fault with this work...and don't have enough time or space to address all the elements that are superb!!!!! What are the dimisions?

9x12" or so, LaCarte in a beige-y colour. Rembrandts and Unisons, mostly.

Thanks- nit-picky details are my specialty.... lol

weckster
04-04-2004, 01:11 AM
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OOOOHHH lovely - nice purple/yellow contrasts.

weckster
04-04-2004, 01:12 AM
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Cute, cute, cute

weckster
04-04-2004, 01:13 AM
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From the thumbnails, I thought this was a nice photo! Beautiful reflections. :clap:

weckster
04-04-2004, 01:18 AM
Sorry guys - getting a bit wordy here! From me so far - nothing till now, and struggling....
Images below are a little crystal flower decoration that I'd thought I'd do, but canned cos it looked FAR TOO HARD.
Next is a crystal bowl with a blue glass fish and then my first underpainting...I'm finding it really hard to "look" at and reproduce. Seem to have looked at it more than put pastel to paper....but there you go :(

E-J
04-04-2004, 04:50 AM
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SBJ :clap:

You done good! My favourite bits are the reflections of light and copper on the blue wine bottle - very nicely done. Ooooh, and now I've seen that tiny little spot of copper reflecting in the laboratory beaker! Lovely!

The glass highlights are very white on my screen but I would guess you used a variety of pale tints for those. I'm wondering if it's possible to vary the tonal value of the top edge of the front bowl slightly to make it appear less evenly white all around - then again, I'll admit I have no idea how 'vaseline glass' behaves! Some quirky objects you've got there.

Now I'm hoping you're not going to sue me because you hurt your neck taking part in my project :D I'm off to check where I stand legally on this, LOL

E-J
04-04-2004, 05:16 AM
Images below are a little crystal flower decoration that I'd thought I'd do, but canned cos it looked FAR TOO HARD.
Next is a crystal bowl with a blue glass fish and then my first underpainting...I'm finding it really hard to "look" at and reproduce. Seem to have looked at it more than put pastel to paper....but there you go :(

Hi Erica ... I agree that the crystal ornament would have been a bit too challenging to begin with ... but you are doing really well with your bowl! Let's see if I can help.

If you take another look at what you've put in I think you'll see that you haven't made your bowl quite wide enough to leave enough space for the white glass motif - as a result, you've had to squish those shapes up a bit and the areas in-between, which should be blue (the area running between the white flower and the patterns around the inside, and also the area just under the rim of the bowl) have also been squished. If you're anything like me, this problem with your ellipses will have been caused by your nervousness at the thought of painting glass!! Just means you need to take another look at the overall shape of your bowl.

With regards to the glass itself, what strikes me is that in your ref, there are some areas of very dark blue at the points where the glass of the fish 'interacts' with the bowl - the point where the tail is seen through the back right of the bowl, and the point where its body reflects on the bowl's front right curve. The rim, too, is very dark. I would put those into the painting before anything else. I can see where you've gone in with the basic blue and then some highlights and a bit more tentatively with a darker tone, but the blue you have, though suitably vibrant, is more of a mid-tone and it might have been more helpful to put in the very darkest shapes first. (At least, this is what I might have tried ... doesn't mean it's the best way by any means!) Dig out a dark blue and study those darkest shapes and put them in. If you don't have any really good darks, you can always use black and then go over it with whatever blue you have. Don't forget to work on the darks in your fish at this stage, too.

And you thought YOU were wordy, ha ha :D

It's a challenging subject but you can do it!!

E-J
04-04-2004, 05:20 AM
Erica ... since you have an 'eel' ornament, I thought you might be tickled to see the eel my husband caught on camera yesterday and posted over in the Photography forum. It's a big'un ;) :)http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179386

Dark_Shades
04-04-2004, 04:03 PM
For some reason I cant get into the Projects page from your link :( .... keep getting an error message

E-J
04-04-2004, 04:05 PM
For some reason I cant get into the Projects page from your link :( .... keep getting an error message

Bummer. Which link, Dawn? :confused:

Dark_Shades
04-04-2004, 04:07 PM
From both, the Project stick link.... click here :) or the one under your signature.... lol, Im wracking my brains trying to remember how to get to the projects :o

Dark_Shades
04-04-2004, 04:11 PM
Warning: opendir(/opt/web/www/Community/ProjectsNew/lib/667/ref): failed to open dir: No such file or directory in /opt/web/wetcanvas/Community/Projects/browse_details.php on line 95

Perhaps I will try tomorrow....... no big deal, was just going to post first progress pic

Kathryn Wilson
04-04-2004, 04:22 PM
Dawn, I am getting the same error message. I see that Scott is tinkering with stuff again - the Project page is now under "Content Areas" in the blue bar under the "Wet Canvas" logo at the top of the page.

I check in with Scott to see what's up with the links.

Dark_Shades
04-04-2004, 04:23 PM
lol, took me ages to find where all the projects had gone :), finally got there, went to upload image....... and got another error message :crying: .... lol, this one said something like

'Ack, we have a problem, email us :)

Dark_Shades
04-04-2004, 04:24 PM
Dawn, I am getting the same error message. I see that Scott is tinkering with stuff again - the Project page is now under "Content Areas" in the blue bar under the "Wet Canvas" logo at the top of the page.

I check in with Scott to see what's up with the links.

Ok, thanks Kat....

Kathryn Wilson
04-04-2004, 05:18 PM
It should be okay now Dawn - it worked for me. Scott was uploading changes to the Project system - something else for us to get used to - :)

irish artist
04-04-2004, 06:01 PM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/33516/tn_blue_bottles_%282%29.jpg

I did this with oil pastels and used thinner to blend.

Dyin
04-04-2004, 06:12 PM
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ooh, you got that cobalt quite well! The turps did a nice job of giving that glassy effect with the OPs too.

Dyin
04-04-2004, 08:33 PM
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lots of lovely colors here...I have a little 'glass' piece that is carved from quartz and has 2 paintings inside of birds...done with a brush with one single hair! It fits the shape of the two smaller bottles and what made me think of it. Your reflections work really well on picking up the colors.

sundiver
04-04-2004, 08:57 PM
Wc reminds me of our local grocery store- I just get it figured out where to find everything, and they move it all around again!
I thought one of the ref pics looked familiar, then realized it's mine! Here the blue bottles are in different positions, my first oil pastel, I think, done with the cheapest of cheapies.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Apr-2004/6393-blubtls_oil_pstl.jpg
It's hanging in someone's bathroom now, I think.
I got my project uploaded but spent so much time in confusion I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see the other entries.

prestonsega
04-04-2004, 10:07 PM
I thought one of the ref pics looked familiar, then realized it's mine! Here the blue bottles are in different positions, my first oil pastel,

How cool is that?!?.What a neat surprise for you.....a little perk for being an active WC participant..........thanks for the ref pic and your previous work,which is great.

SweetBabyJ
04-04-2004, 10:10 PM
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Nice, Dawn- nifty colours and pretty pieces to boot. But do they smell good?

soap
04-04-2004, 10:59 PM
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That looks lovely Dawn! Very glassy! I like the blue.

soap
04-04-2004, 11:01 PM
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Absolutely love the textures and pastel strokes in this one! Difficult angle though. Great job!

bogbeast
04-04-2004, 11:54 PM
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Lovely! the reflection on the window is subtle and perfect!

bogbeast
04-05-2004, 12:01 AM
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I really like what you've done with this so far--such a light touch on the highlights, yet they come out just right. I keep reading about something being "painterly", well, it seems to me this is "pastel-erly" !

Dyin
04-05-2004, 12:13 AM
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This is really nice Wendy...can tell they're daffodils but what i like is how true to the distortion of the glass you were..the stems break so realistically!

prestonsega
04-05-2004, 04:31 AM
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I love it when someone such as yourself dares to break a "rule" in painting and pulls it off so perfectly. Your composition almost uses formal balance with the vase in the middle, yet the balance you have achieved with the placement of objects and light/dark pattern is asymetry at its finest! You have a strong innate sense of balance...this is a great work. I won't even address your flawless technique!

prestonsega
04-05-2004, 04:47 AM
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E J ...This is so rich in color that it is truly a feast for the eyes.....as a friend of mine once said, "That feels good slamming against the back of my retinas." lol...Simply beautiful.

irish artist
04-05-2004, 05:30 AM
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Nice work, it has the "fresh" feel. I have daffodils blooming too, think I'll try that, flowers in glass.

E-J
04-05-2004, 07:21 AM
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Geoff, good on you for seeing this through, even if you didn't enjoy it much :( :) :D

This is looking fine!! I reckon the limited palette worked well for you.

One suggestion I'd have here is that, since I don't see any really light lights in your glass (that could just be your scan) perhaps you could go in with a few highlights to add that sparkle? You could always try working on a print-out of your picture before making any changes to your painting.

Glad you took part in the project! I think you did much better than you imagine.

E-J
04-05-2004, 07:23 AM
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I especially like the blue of the widest bottle seen through that small colourless one. Nice work!

E-J
04-05-2004, 07:27 AM
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Can you even tell they are daffodils?

Wendy, they're not only daffodils but very pretty ones too! I love the way the stems take on such vibrancy under the water - and your nice subtle reflections of vase and flowers in the window. Thanks for taking part and producing this little beauty!

E-J
04-05-2004, 07:30 AM
Absolutely love the textures and pastel strokes in this one! Difficult angle though. Great job!

Thanks Sophie. Due to limitations of space and furniture I often end up with still lifes painted at this angle! I'm pleased about the pastel strokes as they're something I've really wanted to develop in my painting.

Preston - thank you. Hope I haven't done your retinas any permanent damage :D

Geoff
04-05-2004, 01:49 PM
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I had to have a very good look at this one, thought for a few moments you had posted a photo instead of the painting.
Wonderful - and yes they be daffs.

Alachua Artist
04-05-2004, 03:33 PM
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Holymoly! This is fantastic! I absolutely LOVE the colors, the shading... everything is workign so well together. And as far as putting something on the right, you can put my hand carrying this painting away!

:clap:

Alachua Artist
04-05-2004, 03:41 PM
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Of course they are daffodills! What a lovely composition to do dishes by... although you did mention not standing by the sink long enough to be trapped into doing them. The double reflection in the window is an added dimension to the glass project - very nicely done.
:clap:

E-J
04-05-2004, 03:49 PM
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Oooooooooooooh Dawn! I like this! Plus, I'm intrigued to know what you have planned for that right-hand side ... you're going to tell me to wait and see, aren't you? :D

stonewhiteclown
04-05-2004, 04:10 PM
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I guess a problem with this one is very unusual, uncommon shape. Lower part looks very good to me and upper part is definetly very "glassy". But composition-wise something is lacking. Well, maybe that shapes better stand side by side? ;)

Alex

weckster
04-05-2004, 04:14 PM
If you take another look at what you've put in I think you'll see that you haven't made your bowl quite wide enough to leave enough space for the white glass motif.


Now that you say that, I can see it! I definitely get intimidated by a subject and the rush in. I haven't spent enough time properly planning the layout and "seeing" the shape. Ellipses are bizarrely hard.

...The rim, too, is very dark. I would put those into the painting

I think I'm going to try starting this again - I've been learning watercolour and pastel at the same time, and I hadn't grasped that I could lay the darks so early with pastel.

I have since fiddled too much with the picture, and have ruined it beyond repair (oooppps) - should have got on the net and looked at the comments first.


BTW everyone - there have been some fantastic entries in the last 24+ hours! I am fascinated by the styles...I'll go back to plodding away with mine!

stonewhiteclown
04-05-2004, 04:18 PM
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Simply amazing! :clap: I'm lost inside of that middle flask, anyone please show the way out! :)

Alex

weckster
04-05-2004, 04:37 PM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/30926/tn_aglassinhand.jpg

This is lovely! The suede makes it very textural

sundiver
04-05-2004, 08:23 PM
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Rose, lemon and glass...all exquisite!

sundiver
04-05-2004, 08:28 PM
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My monitor shows darker that it should, and your image was completely black on it. I saved it and lightened it, to find a lovely "moody blue" pastel painting!

sundiver
04-05-2004, 08:30 PM
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I like the reflection, or projection, or whatever it's called, on the wall! Nice capture of the glass effect.

sundiver
04-05-2004, 08:34 PM
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When I saw the thumbnail I thought, "oho, he's done a glass person!" But no. I think you handeled a difficult subject well. (Ellipses drive me nuts!) The bevels and color are very effective.

xreader
04-06-2004, 03:41 AM
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This is very lovly,the crystal is so defined. Really amazing job. :D
I like your flowers,too.

xreader
04-06-2004, 03:54 AM
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I like the way you do your blending. A really remarkable work. :clap:

E-J
04-06-2004, 06:29 AM
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Hey guilli, this is very decorative - can see that you've put lots of observation into it. It is gratifying to know that the project encouraged you to tackle a subject you'd normally shy away from.

Your decanter is leaning slightly to the left, so maybe you could start your drawing (next time) by establishing a plumb line running vertically down the middle - that way you can keep measuring the distances on either side to make sure they're equal.

I'd also be tempted to put in a couple of highlights against that liquid colour (is that your Sunday afternoon sherry in there? :D)

Nice entry!

E-J
04-06-2004, 06:33 AM
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Intriguing subject! Now I'm trying to guess what the movie was :)

You could define your light source more by punching up the darks and lights. Nice effect, though - gives me the feeling of very early morning light, with just that hint of colour.

E-J
04-06-2004, 06:40 AM
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Preston - gorgeous, gorgeous glass! :clap:

Is this your finished entry? I'm sorry about the technical difficulties you've had putting images up ... the uploader tools for this project have been misbehaving for me, too. I believe Scott's had to fiddle with the project settings but let's hope normal service soon resumes ...

E-J
04-06-2004, 06:44 AM
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Welcome to the project!

It looks as if you're using alcohol or water with your colours to create the 'stained' background - or are you rubbing off dry pigment?

Alachua Artist
04-06-2004, 09:44 AM
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Holymoly! an amazing start... this could even be considered a final in my opinion. Beautiful technique, wonder color palette... love the easy loose feel that plays up the pastel characteristics so well.
:clap:

Alachua Artist
04-06-2004, 10:08 AM
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I worked very hard to get a progress image in early on in the project. Most of the time I'm weeks behind everyone. I decided to experiment some with the reference photo and add color to my painting. It's a little rough right now, and has a bit of distortion to it, but it will come along - I think.

Many of the paintings in here are so amazing, I'm almost embarrassed to put mine in. Excellent project E-J! I love a challenge... which this is.

guilliame
04-06-2004, 12:08 PM
stonewhiteclown,wasn't thinking about composition at the time,just put it on the table and tried to draw it,but you are right i have some glasses that i could of put in,one thing at a time tho,maybe next time :D
Sundiver,hee he a glass person,dont go giving me ideas lol :)
EJ,there's whisky in the jar lo,maybe thats why it's leaning left :D

Thank you all for viewing and your comments,will take them on board the next time i do this.

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:29 PM
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I saw this in the open forum, loved the copper effect you got, but like the glass in this one ...... howz the fund raising going for a new camera :)

vanityfaire
04-06-2004, 12:30 PM
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I love your daffodials they are very realistic. It is so spring. LOL about the dishes, I can relate to that one. I don't think I could see a bouquet of flowers if I had them near the dishes. Overflowing in Seattle. LOL Vanity :)

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:31 PM
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I like the gleam and glow you got with this, and the little added colour makes it very interesting

vanityfaire
04-06-2004, 12:32 PM
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this glassware is very pretty. I like the colors that are in the Pic. I always have trouble with drapery and you seem to just put them in with ease in this portrait. Thanks for sharing your work with us. Vanity :)

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:32 PM
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Got a nice solid feel to this glass ...... the blue is so rich

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:36 PM
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I always like everything you do ...... such subtleties of colours in this, with good strong contrasts...... love the light on the daffodils and glass

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:40 PM
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I think this is coming along really well ..... like the colour you chose, it can be very difficult interupting from black and white into colour.... lol, I did a project on a similiar basis 'Colour me Beautiful'..... erm, lol dont think I have submitted my a works to it yet Ha! :D ..... I think this one is going to turn out great Alachua

vanityfaire
04-06-2004, 12:41 PM
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This is excellent. I love the colors in this one. Simplistic and beautiful. :clap: Vanity

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:42 PM
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You have a good start here ....... and have picked a very difficult perspective........and is looking good

vanityfaire
04-06-2004, 12:44 PM
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You gotta love that blue glass. This is beautiful. It is very flowing with the blues and the drape colors. :) vanity

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:44 PM
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Good for you 'x' for joining in ....... looks like you are enjoying exploring and discovering..... great stuff

vanityfaire
04-06-2004, 12:45 PM
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All of these glass portraits are wonderful. I love the amber and how it shows through the other crystal glass. The shadow colors are lovely. great JOB!! Vanity

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 12:54 PM
Thank you for all the nice comments .... and lol EJ.... I was going to make you wait hee hee.... but erm, :o , Im stuck and need all you guyz help :D

... wasnt too sure what to put in the right, and then struck on an idea..... but .... not sure I like it now ... or that it works, and perhaps its just dead boring!!
.... so I messed around in PSP ...... please let me know your thoughts, ideas, suggestions...... even if its that Im to go to plan B) :D .... dont want to work on it anymore until I hear back from you lot ..... lol, Ive just painted my nails white .... and dont wanna mess them up until I have to ... lololol

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2004/12116-B.jpg

Geoff
04-06-2004, 01:53 PM
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I'm speechless !

pjo
04-06-2004, 03:22 PM
Hi, I just uploaded an image in the progress section. This is the first still life and/or glass I've done in pastels, boy is this one a challenge. I know the glass needs work, any suggestions? I could really use help on this one. Thanks

prestonsega
04-06-2004, 04:27 PM
I have not been able to upload these images to the WIP section, so I am posting my latest glass wip along w/ref pic here in the discussin thread. I now have a great respect for you glass and flower painters. I have put many hours into this work and feel that it is on the brink of being great or a disaster. I need a negative critique from ya'll with focus on the paintings WEAKNESSES so far. I'm a big boy, so bring 'em on! Many of them I already see, but I am sure there are others glaring me in the face.

Thanks in advance.

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 04:37 PM
Hi, I just uploaded an image in the progress section. This is the first still life and/or glass I've done in pastels, boy is this one a challenge. I know the glass needs work, any suggestions? I could really use help on this one. Thanks

Hi PJ....... I think just carry on with what you are doing...... its looking great..... get some lights worked into the background tree/sky.... and perhaps just check the angles of the shadows.... seem as if they are dipping downwards ...... especially like the colours in the shadows of the fruits

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 04:40 PM
I have not been able to upload these images to the WIP section, so I am posting my latest glass wip along w/ref pic here in the discussin thread. I now have a great respect for you glass and flower painters. I have put many hours into this work and feel that it is on the brink of being great or a disaster. I need a negative critique from ya'll with focus on the paintings WEAKNESSES so far. I'm a big boy, so bring 'em on! Many of them I already see, but I am sure there are others glaring me in the face.

Thanks in advance.


Hi Preston ........ I again think, keep working on this.... its such a pretty picture..... once you get some darker values going, which will punch up that glass.... think you have done a grand job on it so far ...... try viewing your image in grey scale and it will show you were you need to work more on

bogbeast
04-06-2004, 05:42 PM
I have put many hours into this work and feel that it is on the brink of being great or a disaster.

I think this is definitely heading in the GREAT direction---the glass is looking excellent! (My own attempt is still far from ready to post, even as a WIP!)

IMHO, more intensity of color will help a lot, especially the purples, as well as greater value contrast. Lookin' good!

SweetBabyJ
04-06-2004, 06:10 PM
I have not been able to upload these images to the WIP section, so I am posting my latest glass wip along w/ref pic here in the discussin thread. I now have a great respect for you glass and flower painters. I have put many hours into this work and feel that it is on the brink of being great or a disaster. I need a negative critique from ya'll with focus on the paintings WEAKNESSES so far. I'm a big boy, so bring 'em on! Many of them I already see, but I am sure there are others glaring me in the face.

Thanks in advance.


Preston, is this set-up in front of you also? If so, take a very close look at the *hue* of the highlighted areas- You'll be able to see a tone (warm or cool) in the photo, certainly, but if it's right in front of you, you'll see the colour, too. Try and match that. Try very hard NOT to use white- stay with "colours" right now and save white for the very end.

If you look at the left hand base of the vase, you see a large area of highlight- yes? In the picture, that highlight is clearly pink/violet- but in your painting it is kinda sorta gray/white. If you get that pink in there, it'll brighten it, and the violet will help define it, then you can lay a spark of white- or even lighter pink- to indicate the star of light.

Darks will certainly help define the "cut" edges of the glass, but make sure you catch the tones of the piece, too. Use pencils if you gotta.

Personally, I think this is going to be marvelous- quite sophisticated and rich.

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 06:31 PM
Thank you for all the nice comments .... and lol EJ.... I was going to make you wait hee hee.... but erm, :o , Im stuck and need all you guyz help :D

... wasnt too sure what to put in the right, and then struck on an idea..... but .... not sure I like it now ... or that it works, and perhaps its just dead boring!!
.... so I messed around in PSP ...... please let me know your thoughts, ideas, suggestions...... even if its that Im to go to plan B) :D .... dont want to work on it anymore until I hear back from you lot ..... lol, Ive just painted my nails white .... and dont wanna mess them up until I have to ... lololol

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2004/12116-B.jpg

**Knock Knock..... hey, over here..... I need help too!! :crying: :crying:

xreader
04-06-2004, 06:43 PM
To my untrained eye, somehow the background is taking away from the drama of the original post. I like the idea of billowing curtains- but the colors seem to be overwhelming all your wonderful blue tones. Keep at it though...this will be a fine painting. :)

prestonsega
04-06-2004, 06:48 PM
**Knock Knock..... hey, over here..... I need help too!! :crying: :crying:

(preston hands a hankie to Dark Shades only to realize that it has already been used ... :evil: ..lol)

Sorry, I've been having a preston-fest....You know I'm a part of the me-me generation.

I don't particularly care for what you have done in photo shop. What was the origional environment of these bottles? I rather liked how the dark blue bottle seems to emerge from the dark background of the your wip.........so dramatic! Does that help any??? The quote, "Less is more" comes to mind.

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 06:48 PM
hmmmmm thanks 'x' ..... this is what I was thinking too ..... dont know what to do now lol .... perhaps plan B) :D

Dark_Shades
04-06-2004, 06:53 PM
(preston hands a hankie to Dark Shades only to realize that it has already been used ... :evil: ..lol)

Sorry, I've been having a preston-fest....You know I'm a part of the me-me generation.

I don't particularly care for what you have done in photo shop. What was the origional environment of these bottles? I rather liked how the dark blue bottle seems to emerge from the dark background of the your wip.........so dramatic! Does that help any??? The quote, "Less is more" comes to mind.


lol Preston..... will remember to shout next time ;) ...... lol, it looked good in my minds eye ha ha ha.... wahhhhh ..... well it was just perked on a window sill...... wanted the light coming through.... so that gave me the idea of a sort of net curtain blowing...... but I dont care for it either lol

Plan B) was a hand picking one of the bottles :confused: :) .... hmmmmm if that dont work, dunno what to do :( ..... won't even finish it off .... Im no good at things like this .... wahhhh wheres that hankie

SweetBabyJ
04-06-2004, 07:02 PM
The sheer curtains will work nicely, Dawn- figured you knew what you were doing. Just gray the hues down a bit- they should not compete with the bottles. You've got those wonderful Unison lights- think of the sheers now as the far petals on an iris....

Alachua Artist
04-06-2004, 09:26 PM
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I'm proud of this one... difficult and challenging, I had to make it more so by changing and adding color. And my (broken) wrist got a great work out! This project was healing in many ways - not only did I physically make it through, but I reconnected with my artist soul that I thought was damaged as well.

All of the entries are amazing. I applaud us all! :clap: :clap:

Alachua Artist
04-06-2004, 09:33 PM
**Knock Knock..... hey, over here.....

I wasn't ignoring you! I liked the curtain effect - but then again, I'm one to change things dramatically. What if you put some faint venetian blinds behind the bottles - something on a severe angle to compliment the smooth round shapes of the bottles? I have no idea how that would REALLY look, but that idea came from looking at the lines within the curtain edges... unintentional I'm sure.

stonewhiteclown
04-07-2004, 02:32 AM
**Knock Knock..... hey, over here..... I need help too!! :crying: :crying:

I must agree with xreader, as I feel rich background (especially light one) would disrupt the beauty, particulary push two dark bottles in front, only lighting on them will look very wrong.
I have another observation - that white bottle already has the scene defined within it, horizon at least. It can contradict your future backgroung. (Actually this can be seen in your PSP image).
I see two choices - either to build backgroud matching reflection in that bottle, or settle for something simplistic (maybe hint of blue draping will do). I'd go for second, as it'd retain focus on the bottles, and hopefully result is more predictable.
Anyway, if plan B) is worth it :), please discard my crude suggestions.
And careful with middle bottle, there magical substance in it! :D

Alex

E-J
04-07-2004, 03:44 AM
**Knock Knock..... hey, over here..... I need help too!! :crying: :crying:

Dawn, in your original setup the light seems to be coming through to land front right of the colourless bottle - wouldn't that be contradicted by having the curtained window to the right?

I too prefer the darker, more dramatic background but it's a nice idea - and good to see you experimenting with putting together a more adventurous composition ... maybe you can do TWO versions, hee hee :D

E-J
04-07-2004, 03:50 AM
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You've handled the glass and the transition to colour beautifully! :clap:

E-J
04-07-2004, 03:52 AM
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Well guilli, this is terrific!

My only suggestion for this one - punch up the darks. Strong contrasts seem to work well when you're trying to define glassiness!

E-J
04-07-2004, 03:58 AM
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Lots to look at here - who says it wasn't successful? Glad you enjoyed it!

It's fun that you've included your light source in the setup. I'm tempted to suggest that for next time, you look even more closely for any indication of light and shadow on your red table surface, at their bases of your glass objects, which show that light is passing through them. This will also help to 'ground' them.

E-J
04-07-2004, 04:08 AM
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Your first still life in pastel? Wow. It's a nice arrangement and you've made a very good job of that blue glass.

You're not going to observe the same clarity of reflections in dark coloured glass that you would do with, for example, a colourless cut-crystal wine glass but I think you can still afford to go even lighter with your highlights! By all means post your ref image if it helps.

weckster
04-07-2004, 07:46 AM
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Think you're a little harsh on yourself Geoff...love the colours and there is a lovely smoothness that conveys the glass.

weckster
04-07-2004, 07:55 AM
ACTUALLY......Love looking in on this. The bulk feeling seems to be intimidation with the results being fantastic - Dark Shades, Alachua artist, preston - love em all. guillame - despite your own negativity I love your whisky decanter with the pinks and yellows.

It's inspiring, everyone.

prestonsega
04-07-2004, 12:39 PM
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I was browsing this thread last night and felt I was too tired to do this work justice in a comment. Now I am all rested and still feel I cannot do this work justice!!! Beautiful.......amazing........beautifully amazing....amazingly beautiful......(see what I mean!)

Simply beautiful execution!! There, that's it!

prestonsega
04-07-2004, 01:07 PM
I too prefer the darker, more dramatic background but it's a nice idea - and good to see you experimenting with putting together a more adventurous composition ... maybe you can do TWO versions, hee hee :D

Dark-Shades has now been officially challanged....by the smooth talking EJ!!!! lol You gotta love how she casually slipped it in..good job . EJ.!!

(EJ.. I appreciate your work. Between "sketches" and "project", your little fingers are going to be sore!)

Thanks.

Dark_Shades
04-07-2004, 04:14 PM
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Hi Geoff..... its a shame you werent enjoying this, especially as you have some good things going on here..... sometimes I think it helps just to approach things as a bit of fun, and so not putting pressure on yourself - just think .... what the heck!!!.... and go for it :) .... splash some colour
.... go on...... Im sure you would enjoy it, and even be surprised by the effect

Dark_Shades
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
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Hey Guilly....... nice to see you :) ..... I like this, nice and bright and cheery.... now how comes your window and curtains work :mad: :D

Dark_Shades
04-07-2004, 04:20 PM
Ok, thumbs down for the curtain :) ... yup I think you are all right too, the curtain is too light and detracts from the bottles .....

hmmmmm what to do :confused: ..... dunno lol.... I need guidance not challenges Preston lolol

This may have to sit here unfinished for some time yet :(

sundiver
04-07-2004, 04:39 PM
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The thinner gives it a very painterly look. I especially like the foreground bottle- nicely done!

sundiver
04-07-2004, 04:43 PM
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This is a very ambitious project- mine has ONE glass thing! There's a lot of good stuff in here..the distortions, the composition..and I love the colors.

sundiver
04-07-2004, 04:45 PM
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Mmmm, lovely! I like the limited palette.

E-J
04-08-2004, 04:04 AM
Ok, thumbs down for the curtain :) ... yup I think you are all right too, the curtain is too light and detracts from the bottles .....

hmmmmm what to do :confused: ..... dunno lol.... I need guidance not challenges Preston lolol

This may have to sit here unfinished for some time yet :(

Dawn, it will look just fine with a dark background ... similar to that picture you did of the tomatoes with the nice reflections ... giving the suggestion of a highly reflective table ... glass or polished wood.

E-J
04-08-2004, 04:16 AM
Thought I'd better let everyone know that I'll be away over the long Easter weekend - Friday till Monday - visiting my parents and grandmother, and won't have access to a computer.

I will check in as soon as I'm back on Monday evening UK time (early afternoon in the States, Tuesday morning for the Aussies!) - let's face it, after four days I'll be be suffering major withdrawal symptoms!!

Happy pastelling!

sundiver
04-08-2004, 07:38 AM
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Interesting treatment of this one- adds a lot of mystery. The glass looks good, too, and I CAN recognise the ice cubes.

sundiver
04-08-2004, 07:50 AM
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So much to look at here! My favorite part is the large bottle on the right: great reflections and highlights and solidly anchored to the tablecloth.

Alachua Artist
04-08-2004, 11:02 AM
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I just realized I made an error in the mirror. Seeing it posted here, I noticed that the sheen should continue diagonally to the edge (the vertical white line above the actual pitcher) of the mirror. I did correct that in my painting, just didn't reload it in the final images.

Thanks for all your kind critiques. it feels good to be back among the working artists! Your works are so intimidating... and inspiring!

stonewhiteclown
04-08-2004, 05:19 PM
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Interesting treatment of this one- adds a lot of mystery. The glass looks good, too, and I CAN recognise the ice cubes.

Ah, ice cubes - they come in slightly impressionistic way :)

Well, thank you (all) for attention and nice comments! I only regret that I've put too little effort into my picture as so many people here tried hard and managed to paint remarkable works (yours included).

BTW, I'm not sure if I saw somewhere daffodils twice bigger than apples. Anyway, I love them :)

to Erica: a thing that I like about texture is that it sometimes covers one thing - lack of skill, ha ha. Or so I think...

to E-J: Simply afraid to touch it more. Subject is suspended somehow in the middle of nowhere, no shadows, no nothing to rely on concerning lighting. Tough. After uploading it even came across my mind that it is not quite still life :D. As for the movie, I better conceal it, it was slightly disappointing.

Alex.

irish artist
04-08-2004, 07:26 PM
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Great work of art and adding the rose........priceless. Did you design this or work from a photo? It has that "eye for design" look. The color selection is wonderful, all co-ordinated, blended nicely, bright lights to draw the eye.

Alachua Artist
04-08-2004, 09:20 PM
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Very nice work! And the rose is a perfect addition. You have a good sense of composition and form... perfect for pastels.

I likey very much :clap:

Alachua Artist
04-08-2004, 09:39 PM
I did this one a while ago. Just wanted to share it with you, not have it be part of this project. It was a exercise on drawing food. I was more focused on the plastic bag than on the glassware. 18" x 24" NuPastel, Grumbacher and Sennelier soft pastels on blue pastel paper.

rd2ruin
04-09-2004, 01:11 AM
All of these glass paintings look like ... glass. :clap:

My efforts at glass look like Lego constructions .. much to learn, thanks everyone for sharing so far (too many good ones to comment individually and something to learn from all of them) and for a great project. Gives me hope I'll get there yet conquering this difficult subject! :)

... back to the Legos ...

Cheers!
- Greg

weckster
04-09-2004, 02:05 AM
a thing that I like about texture is that it sometimes covers one thing - lack of skill, ha ha. Or so I think...



Hi Alex...hey...we all have to find our mistakes, and some of them work! So it's not lack of skill at all - it's an experience to build on :D

Dark_Shades
04-09-2004, 07:02 AM
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Great work of art and adding the rose........priceless. Did you design this or work from a photo? It has that "eye for design" look. The color selection is wonderful, all co-ordinated, blended nicely, bright lights to draw the eye.

Thank you Irish ...... well lol, it all happened by accident...... put the bottles on the left and thought I could put 'something' in on the right, but had no idea as to what..... the net didnt work..... and just came up with the idea of the rose ..... thinking along the theme of 'scent' .....found a photo of one and rotated it till I thought it might work with the rest..... was concerned over the colours, as with the reddish, blue and white bottles ... what on earth would pull all this together......
.... am glad you think it works ..... was quite pleased with the final result, but would of liked to been able to work the Rose better...... just dont know how at this stage :)

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:06 AM
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Very nice! I think you learned a lot with this...your glass is very "glassy" and the whole painting has a nice feeling of light to it.

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:07 AM
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Those are definitely daffodils! Very nice ones in fact. And your glass vase is lovely!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:08 AM
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This is gorgeous Dawn! The glass pieces are fabulous and the rose looks done to me! Very nice!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:09 AM
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Excellent study! I like this a lot...the colors are very nice, sort of a limited pallette, very subtle...well done!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:10 AM
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This is very interesting! It has an abstract feel to it, but there is no question it is glass. You did a nice job...sorry you didn't enjoy it more!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:12 AM
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I think I commented on this in its own thread....it looks familiar! And I still like it! You did a good job...very nice glass....wonderful lemon and rose!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:13 AM
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It's a neat composition...and your glass is definitely glassy. Very interesting painting!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:14 AM
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You may have much to learn (don't we all!!!) but this has a great look...almost abstract...fun colors. It looks like it was worthwhile for you!


Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:15 AM
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Nice old blue bottles! I like the background too!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:16 AM
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I know I saw this one...and it was good then and still is. Very good job SBJ!

Sandy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:16 AM
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An oldie but goodie Sue! Very nice!

SAndy

meowmeow
04-09-2004, 07:18 AM
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Another almost abstract one! Yes, the highlights do seem separate...but somehow it gives it a very interesting effect. The colors are great and I think it works....although probably not as you wanted it to.

Sandy

xreader
04-09-2004, 02:21 PM
Thank you all who have commented with such kindly given observations. This was in oil pastels, and the stain was achieved by rubbing off with a dry edge of cloth. I've seen an article on composition since this effort and perhaps would have done it differently. I am still learning with each new effort. :)

sundiver
04-09-2004, 07:41 PM
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It's beauuuuuuuutiful, you've used all my favorite colors, the glass is perfect, and I love it!

sundiver
04-09-2004, 07:50 PM
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This is still a progress entry? It looks finished- and it looks wonderful.

irish artist
04-09-2004, 08:18 PM
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I filled a Koeze's nut jar with lilacs. It had multiple square-cut facets and red lettering.

Dark_Shades
04-10-2004, 05:30 AM
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Hi Irish...... it may be my monitor..... but this is showing so dark, I can not see it..... could you post another image..... and bigger too

irish artist
04-10-2004, 08:00 AM
I agreed, Dark Shades, and tried another upload, and had the same result. No, it's not that dark in the orginial. The Gallery for this link: Heart of Glass, shows a better, sharper image then the regular comment image but its still off, wait a bit and I'll tweek the upload some more : :confused:

prestonsega
04-10-2004, 11:58 PM
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I am quite sure those square facets were challanging, but you accepted the challange and won!!!!!!!

Orchidacea
04-11-2004, 07:54 AM
Hi All,

Total newbie here...

I am amazed at all these paintings! Everyone has managed to capture the look of glass, despite varying degrees of trepidation in the face of it.

To share my own trepidation....How are you setting up your subjects to get nice shadows? Are you really just working in light from windows, or do some of you use more elaborate setups? I've been setting up glass bottles in various places for the past hour, and haven't found anything I can 'see' yet. I know I'm supposed to go for strong directional lighting, but all I have to work with are the lamps that (inadequately) light the rooms around my house.

I've never set up a still life before--guess my inexperience is showing. Any tips would be appreciated.

O

Dark_Shades
04-11-2004, 09:02 AM
Hello Orchid...... welcome to the forum and project....

Mine was set infront of a window...... and I know how hard it is to get good strong lighting.... struggled with that on many occassions.... lol, still always do ...... this may help you ..... very handy, useful and informative .... its about making your own 'lightbox'..... basically just simply putting your objects into a cardboard box and letting lighting come in, in certain places

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/2514/127/

Orchidacea
04-11-2004, 09:48 AM
Thank you for the article link, Dark Shades! I'm going down to the basement now to look for a cardboard box to dump.


My next project will be figuring out how to use the digital camera I borrowed and then--optimistically speaking--uploading some images. I may have to skip the family ham dinner to get all this done...

Thanks again!

O

SweetBabyJ
04-11-2004, 11:07 AM
Home Depot has standing floor spots for like $15.00- adding a few "Daylight" bulbs is the perfect match. This way, you not only have a nice set of spots, you have something to paint with if it's gray AND another lamp around the house.

prestonsega
04-11-2004, 11:51 AM
Dawn...I too appreciate the link to the still life set up. I had not seen it.

Orchidacea.....my set up of flowers was on a window sill with natural backlighting. The lemonade pitcher was on my desk with an incandescant light bulb...I took ref pics of both which I worked from also...and welcome aboard!

Dark_Shades
04-11-2004, 12:40 PM
I may have to skip the family ham dinner to get all this done...

Thanks again!

O

lol, painting has a good habit of keeping the weight down :)
..... dont forget.... when you next order in a Pizza...... you can also use the container..... someone else did that, and said it made a really handy 'lightbox' .... just stand it on its side, and put something over the top .... easy to store too :D

irish artist
04-11-2004, 01:14 PM
Orchid, Hi! Welcome to the Glass Challenge! I see, you have lots of tips, if you still have a problem after trying the hints, then I would look up local art treachers or a good painting book. Glass can be confusing, all those light glints, the facets in the glass, the reflections--not for the faint of heart. The best tip I know-paint what you see, not what you think is there, and don't forget, glass is transparent!!! (oh the horror of it, the irony!)

Orchidacea
04-11-2004, 01:49 PM
Thanks everyone for all the tips and the warm welcome! This is the best website ever.

I was eyeing that pizza box out in the recycling bin...decided it had just a little too much old cheese stuck to it, lol.

I'll have to get over to Home Depot and see if I can get a cheap floor spot. The lighting in this house is inadequate for living, much less for painting.

One more question: It seems that lots of people take reference pics with digital cameras. How do you get a print that is of good enough quality to work from? I've seen printouts of family photos taken with this camera that is available for me to use, and they're not very good. It's a cheap camera. I suppose it's necessary to have a very good camera and a very good printer, but that won't be affordable for me for quite a while.

Again, any tips would be welcome. This is probably off-topic though, so I'll let you veteran posters decide whether or not to reply!

Well, the family just arrived. I suppose I should go say hello.

Thanks again,
O

PegR
04-11-2004, 01:50 PM
Hello all--long time, no post! Happy Easter, a Joyous Passover, and Best Wishes to anyone I missed!

A lot of, umm, glassy looks here . . . :D

Really, everybody is doing great, and I'm waaayyyyy behind.

Onion, i'm afraid I must disagree that glass is transparent--it's that, plus some is opaque, some is colored, some is translucent. And, truth be told, I find the translucent kind just about the hardest. Now, off to find some more glass objects.

Peg

SweetBabyJ
04-11-2004, 03:26 PM
Thanks everyone for all the tips and the warm welcome! This is the best website ever.

I was eyeing that pizza box out in the recycling bin...decided it had just a little too much old cheese stuck to it, lol.

I'll have to get over to Home Depot and see if I can get a cheap floor spot. The lighting in this house is inadequate for living, much less for painting.

One more question: It seems that lots of people take reference pics with digital cameras. How do you get a print that is of good enough quality to work from? I've seen printouts of family photos taken with this camera that is available for me to use, and they're not very good. It's a cheap camera. I suppose it's necessary to have a very good camera and a very good printer, but that won't be affordable for me for quite a while.

Again, any tips would be welcome. This is probably off-topic though, so I'll let you veteran posters decide whether or not to reply!

Well, the family just arrived. I suppose I should go say hello.

Thanks again,
O
Oh, but see- the photo is just a *reference*- something to give us a heads up so we can say "Oh well THAT'S what it looks like!". We don't *copy* it- I mean, why bother doing that if there's already a photo in existence?

There's a whole lot of artistic license to painting from a photo- and even more "artistic faith".

Dark_Shades
04-11-2004, 03:52 PM
One more question: It seems that lots of people take reference pics with digital cameras. How do you get a print that is of good enough quality to work from? I've seen printouts of family photos taken with this camera that is available for me to use, and they're not very good. It's a cheap camera. I suppose it's necessary to have a very good camera and a very good printer, but that won't be affordable for me for quite a while.

O

I dont normally print out ref pics..... I leave them on my computer and view them in PSP (Paint Shop Pro) ..... find it really helps... as can zoom in ..... edit..... mess around with contrast and colour...... really sit and study them, and work from the screen

Hello PegR .... Welcome back.... Happy Easter to you too

irish artist
04-11-2004, 04:57 PM
Onion, i'm afraid I must disagree that glass is transparent--it's that, plus some is opaque, some is colored, some is translucent. And, truth be told, I find the translucent kind just about the hardest. Now, off to find some more glass objects.

Peg

Gee, you're right, but I don't do any opaque glass..........Now there's an idea............off to look for opaque glass for my next project. ;)

E-J
04-12-2004, 09:16 AM
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Greg, this is super - especially the goblet!

E-J
04-12-2004, 09:18 AM
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The image I'm seeing is small and quite dark but those glass facets look very intricate and well done!

E-J
04-12-2004, 09:28 AM
To share my own trepidation....How are you setting up your subjects to get nice shadows? Are you really just working in light from windows, or do some of you use more elaborate setups? I've been setting up glass bottles in various places for the past hour, and haven't found anything I can 'see' yet. I know I'm supposed to go for strong directional lighting, but all I have to work with are the lamps that (inadequately) light the rooms around my house.

Welcome, O! I see Dawn's already come to your rescue with some helpful advice.

I went and bought myself a decent adjustable desklamp to shine on my setup for this project. I swivelled the head about for a while to see what interesting shadows I could cast - and to get a strong pattern of light reflecting through the little vase. Find yourself an anglepoise or desklamp and life will be easier, whether or not you set up a box to shine it into.

Look forward to seeing your entry! :)

pgunders
04-12-2004, 10:47 AM
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too cool darling....

Dark_Shades
04-12-2004, 11:43 AM
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Nice work here Greg..... I really like your choice of colours, and the effect of the background

E-J
04-13-2004, 08:01 AM
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This is something out of the ordinary - a glass slipper! Looking good so far, Peg. Punching up the lights and darks should help you achieve that glassiness. Let us know when you've come back to this!

E-J
04-13-2004, 08:03 AM
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Preston, you've gone glass crazy!! This is excellent :clap:

How are you going with that vase of flowers? :)

PegR
04-13-2004, 09:47 AM
Punching up the lights and darks should help you achieve that glassiness. Let us know when you've come back to this!

Thanks EJ--as I was posting it, I figured that's what I'd hear. But I've got a little thing set up that I want to do for this same project, and I want to let this one "rest" a bit. So I'll post more as I go along. I think it'll look better as I darken the table under the shoe so it has something more to contrast with.

Peg

SweetBabyJ
04-13-2004, 10:18 AM
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Well done!! Greaat catch.

Alachua Artist
04-13-2004, 11:23 AM
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Ok...this one makes me envious. You pulled off the square facets so well... so believable! Although the image is dark, the effect is nonetheless fantastic.

Very well done. :clap:

pjo
04-13-2004, 11:51 AM
I haven't been here in awhile. I just posted my final project. I realize I could work quite a bit more on the glass, but just don't know what else to do, so I think its done. (first time doing a still life, or glass, quite a challenge).

I had a chance to look at all the finished work. Lots of really good work.

Sweetbaby-I really like the subtle tones in your painting, the glass is done wonderfully.

Alchuartist-a little hard to see because it's so dark, but I can see the facets you worked so hard on. Good job.

Irish-your blue bottles look great. Very readable.

Everyone seemed to really like doing this one, its great to see how everyone chooses something different.

E-J
04-13-2004, 02:16 PM
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Well done PJ! I absolutely know that feeling of not knowing what more to add to a picture and yet vaguely wondering if it's finished ... this looks finished to me ... you did a great job.

E-J
04-13-2004, 02:34 PM
I took this quick snap of a glass of water as a possible reference pic. It came out a bit blurry BUT I thought I'd share it because it's a great illustration of what glass does to things seen through it!

You can see the quite remarkable way the back edge of the table bends right up round to follow the ellipsis of the glass rim ... how the wood of the table seen through the glass is separated completely from the table edge seen outside the glass ... how a very thin reflection of the wood colour runs through that back rim, in between thin lines of white ... how the two highlights on the rim are directly opposite one another ... and how the part of the table seen through both the glass's front AND back is paler than the part seen through only that back part of the glass (and look at the shape formed by the table colour as it seems to 'seep' up on either side beneath the rim closest to us) ...

I may yet use this photo as a ref and if anyone else fancies having a go at it, please do! :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Apr-2004/13865-glassbend.jpg

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:33 AM
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Very well done! almost photographic! I really like this piece as a whole.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:35 AM
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YES! I can certainly tell they are daffodils. This is a beautiful painting. All the colors play so well against each other and the glass bowl/vase is so real!

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:37 AM
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How beautiful! You have such great contrasts going on the various glass objects and the softness of the rose plays so beautifully against the hard glass. Bravo!

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:39 AM
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So skillfully done! I was intrigued by this photo and knew someone would make a beautiful study of it...and there you did it.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:42 AM
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There is a very contemporary feel to this piece that really touches me. I like a ll the bright colors playing in there and the crooked lamp shade is a great touch of whimsy in what could have been a still still life.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:44 AM
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I like the composition and the limited palette here, Geoff. I think it could be a real stunning piece if you added a few bright glints of light on the glass surfaces...the painting seems to lack lights.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:47 AM
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What a beautiful rose! You really caught the glass surfaces right. the composition is very eye-catching. I've been working on my entry for nearly a week now, so I understand the "struggle"...now add not having worked in pastel in about four months! You always end up with such a lovely result from your struggles.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:49 AM
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Great study of glass and very well executed. Is the lemonade a bit too green? or is it the image?

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:52 AM
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I love the composition here! Since the sun is shining so brightly on the peaches, wouldn't there be more light play in the other objects? they seem very dark.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:54 AM
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hey Greg, this is terrific! Solid composition with great color balance and the perspectives are right on.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 01:57 AM
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Interesting study! I really like the concept here but agree the ice cubes don't come across right. Sort of looks like a glass of those rounded glass plant stones that are so popular. Maybe if you made them float?

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 02:00 AM
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Great piece, SBJ! All those glass objects and each one is real looking. I like the basicly blue composition with the copper pot to relieve the colorscape. Nice work!

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 02:02 AM
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Nice study! Venetian glass? Only nit is that the stem is leaning.

Mikki Petersen
04-14-2004, 02:04 AM
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Good composition, good perspective! Maybe needs more work on value contrast? Seems very mid-tone but could be the image.

E-J
04-14-2004, 03:42 AM
What a beautiful rose! You really caught the glass surfaces right. the composition is very eye-catching. I've been working on my entry for nearly a week now, so I understand the "struggle"...now add not having worked in pastel in about four months! You always end up with such a lovely result from your struggles.

Mikki, thank you. In fact, the struggle continues! After some advice from Arlene over in Still Life, I've decided I will up the contrast a little and tweak the colour/light on that rose. I didn't feel at all sure about making these changes at first but I've since spent some time having some silly fun with colour for the Pastel Riot and my confidence to polish up this more 'serious' piece has returned. Amazing what playtime can do!

Will be fun to have you taking part! As I recall, the last time you made a pastel comeback it was with a quite spectacular landscape :)

irish artist
04-14-2004, 06:02 AM
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I went to the Gallery to see what you guys were talking about, the rose does get lost in the cloth. The cloth has a strong color but the rose is rendered beautifully. I like the composition, where did Arlene comment on it?

Yep, found it in "Still Life", need to darken the cloth and the rose will POP forward, Good Luck with that :)

prestonsega
04-14-2004, 04:47 PM
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Great study of glass and very well executed. Is the lemonade a bit too green? or is it the image?

Thanks for your comments. Because the yellow liquid was on a blue surface it took on a green cast AND the reproduction made it more intense. BUT, in answer to your question...the origional IS a bit too greenish.....hmmmm Life gave me lemons and I made Gatorade!!!!! Dare I go back into the glass/liquid and yellow it up a bit or do I paint the lemons into limes???

prestonsega
04-14-2004, 05:00 PM
How are you going with that vase of flowers? :)

E J ....Uhh,,,,hmmmmm,,,uhum...I think I bit off more than my pastel baby teeth can chew, what with the flowers and backlighting. I have not touched it since my first session, but have all the WC members' suggestions for improvement at hand ready to dive back in before the end end of the month. It is staring at me right now...I may have to turn it towards the wall for a bit. (i.e.,,procrastination) Thanks for your comments. This project was a really good learning experience for me!

SweetBabyJ
04-14-2004, 05:25 PM
E J ....Uhh,,,,hmmmmm,,,uhum...I think I bit off more than my pastel baby teeth can chew, what with the flowers and backlighting. I have not touched it since my first session, but have all the WC members' suggestions for improvement at hand ready to dive back in before the end end of the month. It is staring at me right now...I may have to turn it towards the wall for a bit. (i.e.,,procrastination) Thanks for your comments. This project was a really good learning experience for me!


You can do this one, Preston- I have great faith in you.

Orchidacea
04-14-2004, 06:38 PM
Welcome, O! I see Dawn's already come to your rescue with some helpful advice.

I went and bought myself a decent adjustable desklamp to shine on my setup for this project. I swivelled the head about for a while to see what interesting shadows I could cast - and to get a strong pattern of light reflecting through the little vase. Find yourself an anglepoise or desklamp and life will be easier, whether or not you set up a box to shine it into.

Look forward to seeing your entry! :)


Yes, I got a lot of really useful advice. Thanks to everyone!

I had a lot of fun working on my entry, but I'm going to have to borrow a better digital camera in order to post it. The one I'm using is a $19.99 special, and I have yet to get a picture from it that is more than vaguely identifiable :( .

Kudos to all the entries so far! The quality of the work is just amazing. I feel honored to participate, even as an observer (and somewhat relieved that no one has to see my work yet, lol).

O

guilliame
04-16-2004, 11:27 AM
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Hey DS,this knocked me sideways when i first saw this,love those 3 bottles especially the middle one,didn't comment at the time coz you were going to put something on the right,next time i looked it looked like a curtain on the rhs but has ended up being a rose :clap: :D

guilliame
04-16-2004, 11:40 AM
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Hey SweetbabyJ,i like this the blue material in the background is good and a lot of detail right down to the bottle tops,the kettle does look a bit pink on my screen,i imagine in your painting it is a bit more coppery orange which looks nice against the blues :)

guilliame
04-16-2004, 11:49 AM
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Hey pjo,great combination of colours and a nice painting, like it lots :D

guilliame
04-16-2004, 12:02 PM
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Nice one EJ,like the rose in the glass super the lemon is good too and i love what you have done with the material :clap: :)

guilliame
04-16-2004, 12:23 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35460

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/21231/tn_glassPitcher.jpg

This looks very glassy,very well drawn :clap: like the colours well done :)

guilliame
04-16-2004, 12:31 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35380

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/6393/tn_kitchen_daffodils.jpg

Hey Sundiver,love the technique and style of this one,and yup they look like daffs to me,nice light on the window sill :clap:

pgunders
04-16-2004, 01:14 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35460

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/21231/tn_glassPitcher.jpg

Darling
I really like the sweeping lines of the pitcher and the reflection. What is surprising in this view, is the contrast in the background doesnot over power the foreground. Are you framing this one?

Alachua Artist
04-16-2004, 03:22 PM
Are you framing this one?
I may and take it to my office. That seems to be the best selling gallery I have! I must admit I am pleased with this one.

Orchidacea
04-16-2004, 09:26 PM
Here is my attempt at glass...the one I spent three days trying to figure out how to set it up, lol! I posted it in the project section....not sure if I'm supposed to post it here, too--please fill me in!

Orchidacea
04-16-2004, 09:31 PM
Another one with glass!

This was my first still life, done after about four months' experience doing any kind of artwork. (I probably have about a year's total experience now.)
It just occurred to me that yes, that wine bottle is made of glass! Mostly Nupastel and Rembrandts on Canson.

I am struggling with the technicalities of posting these things....hope this works!

O

E-J
04-17-2004, 01:04 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35800

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/41088/tn_Glass_Project.jpg

O, this is super glass - and from life, too! :clap: The turquoisey colour at the edges is very convincing, as are the shapes seen through the objects.

Don't tell people you were dithering, tell them you were cogitating for those 3 days :D

E-J
04-17-2004, 01:10 PM
Another one with glass!

I am struggling with the technicalities of posting these things....hope this works!

O

While it's ok to attach entries to your posts like this, the usual and preferable way is to go to the Project details page and select 'Browse the Gallery Exhibit (Finished Works)'. From there you can click on whichever image of yours you'd like to draw attention to, and select 'Comment'. Then you'll get the 'Regarding this entry -->' blurb in your post, with a thumbnail and link to your pic :)

Orchidacea
04-17-2004, 10:55 PM
E-J,

Thanks for the comments and the advice :) I'm looking forward to doing another project so I can click everything in the right order and have those thumbnails magically appear!

O

E-J
04-19-2004, 02:25 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35780

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6932/tn_pitcher.jpg

Go guilli!! This is a remarkable piece of work! Take your time ... however long you need to complete this one ... it's definitely going to be worth it!

Dark_Shades
04-19-2004, 02:59 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35780

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/6932/tn_pitcher.jpg

ohhhhhhhh yes, definately take your time with this one..... though not sure what you have left to do....... itssssssss beaaaaaaaaautiful as is :clap: ..... well done indeedy

Dark_Shades
04-19-2004, 03:01 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35805

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/41088/tn_Still_LifeLastTry.jpg

This has great colour, light, texture and effect ...... like this alot ..... well done

Mumma4x
04-19-2004, 04:50 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

Just adding my latest pastel to the mix here. I've been following this thread, but figured it was too late to enter into it until a few people encouraged me in the thread I posted this in. So, here it is! C&C welcome. I need to tackle the background...

Dark_Shades
04-19-2004, 04:56 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

lol I saw your thread earlier and was about to say to you, you could post it here :) ....... never too late to post to a project.... well erm, unless its closed :)
...... love the crystal clear glass and the hues from it.... lovely sunshine through the grapes too .... well done ..... the whole piece has a lovely glow

irish artist
04-19-2004, 05:30 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

One of the most beautiful entries so far--you inspire all of us to try harder! :clap:

Mumma4x
04-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

lol I saw your thread earlier and was about to say to you, you could post it here :) ....... never too late to post to a project.... well erm, unless its closed :)
...... love the crystal clear glass and the hues from it.... lovely sunshine through the grapes too .... well done ..... the whole piece has a lovely glow

Thank you so much!

Mumma4x
04-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

One of the most beautiful entries so far--you inspire all of us to try harder! :clap:

Wow! Seriously? This is my first ever attempt at glass. I thought it turned out pretty well, but I never expected a compliment like that. Thanks so much :)

E-J
04-20-2004, 03:54 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35872

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/progress/36891/tn_grapesglass2.jpg

I was so taken aback when I opened this up and saw the improvements you'd made to the piece since I viewed your thread! The shadow/reflection is terrific now - much more colourful and interesting! Nicely done :clap:

By the way, it's never too late! This project won't be a forum 'sticky' after April but will remain open for as long as anyone wants to take part. That means we've all got plenty of time to do another entry ;) :D

rafi
04-21-2004, 10:42 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=35380

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/667/completed/6393/tn_kitchen_daffodils.jpg

The vase is a bit like my anenomes but the treatment is completely different. I like the crisp light and the backlighting on the flowers. well done :).