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Kathryn Wilson
02-06-2004, 08:48 PM
This might be a smart buy for OP'ers - I found a set of "Oil Color Pencils" on Ebay that I decided to purchase to see what they were all about. Very much like color pencils - in that you sharpen them and they are opaque and smooth.

Here is a color swatch of the set (24 total) with some blends: (Manufactured for Walnut Hollow of Dodgeville, WI)


I decided to try a sketch to see what they could do - I'm really pleased with the results. I sketched with a grey first, started to fill in with the oil pastels and they did not cover the canson well. So I put my base colors in with my other OP's, then did details, shading, texture with the pencils. You can really get an edge with these. See what you think. Oh, yes, the chicken is a study sketch for a chicken painting I am planning on doing. Thought I'd better find out if I could do a chicken first before I started - LOL. For the chicken fanciers, this is a Buff Orpington.

Mo.
02-06-2004, 09:08 PM
Kat, I'm intrigued, love your clucker.:) he's wonderful, tell us more please.

Mo.:)
P.s. What I mean is are they really oil based and not just wax pencils?

Dyin
02-06-2004, 09:38 PM
girl, don't you know how to do a proper wip??? :p I'm a touched confused..you're saying the pencils, not the ops, didn't fill in well...right? so exactly which colors did you block in...and only one layer??? and then everything else we see was done with these pencils???

btw...I think you can do a chicken!!! This looks great!

sundiver
02-06-2004, 10:18 PM
I like the looks of those oil pencils....and I really like the looks of that chicken!

Kathryn Wilson
02-06-2004, 10:28 PM
girl, don't you know how to do a proper wip??? :p I'm a touched confused..you're saying the pencils, not the ops, didn't fill in well...right? so exactly which colors did you block in...and only one layer??? and then everything else we see was done with these pencils???

btw...I think you can do a chicken!!! This looks great!

Hi Mo and Sue: Sorry I can't give you much more info on the pencils. They are described as "oil color pencils" used for craft projects made of bare wood -I found them in two craft/art stores here, but they were terribly expensive, so I tried Ebay and found someone who had bought them, but never used them. The package and the little bit of direction they give, does not indicate what they are made of. The certainly feel and work like they are oils not wax-based. I will investigate further.

Okay, I can see where I confused the subject on how I went about the chicken. I first sketched, then started to use the pencils by themselves to fill in, but they did not cover the Canson paper well in the larger patches of color (brown feathers). (The red pencil covered the red wattles well - the reds are very opaque and smooth.) So I used my Holbeins to put in the base color of the chicken with help from my Specialist White OP to smooth the color out and do the white feathers. I then used the dark brown oil pencil and sketched over the top of the base color, adding purples for shadows with the pencils. The pencils mix very well with the OP's and do not slide like some of the cheap OP's do. That's it - took about 3 hours of playing around to see what worked and what didn't.

Dyin
02-06-2004, 10:46 PM
kewl beans!!! :D

Cadmium Jen
02-06-2004, 10:53 PM
Aw crap, not ANOTHER OP product for my wish list! :p

P.S. Great chicken!

Kathryn Wilson
02-06-2004, 11:07 PM
Well, I just did an extensive search on the internet - not much more information other than that they are new, used for decorative painting on wood objects (can be lacquered over or varnished) - saw one project where they were used to decorate gourds - someone else was talking about scrapbooking - an artist who had used them for drawing - another person who had used them for their model airplane projects.

I even went to the company web site and there is not a place to send an email or pose a question as to what they are made of.

Lots of these sets on Ebay right now and Dick Blicks does carry them. I have the set of 24, but they make a set of 36. The swatches I did were on plain white mat board and they over quite well in two layers.

majestaero
02-06-2004, 11:22 PM
Caran d'Ache makes an oil "crayon" -- wonder if they're similar? I'd planned to try out a few just because it would be soooo handy. Have to find more on eBay!!

Linda

Kathryn Wilson
02-06-2004, 11:29 PM
Caran d'Ache makes an oil "crayon" -- wonder if they're similar? I'd planned to try out a few just because it would be soooo handy. Have to find more on eBay!!

Linda

Hi Linda! Actually these pencils are quite firm - love the detail I'm finally getting with op's and these pencils.

Kathryn Wilson
02-06-2004, 11:38 PM
I had to dig real deep into this company's web site to find an email address - so I've sent off all kinds of questions about what they consist of -

Hopefully we will get an answer!

ExpressiveAngie
02-07-2004, 12:05 AM
Thats one fancy walking chicken...lol...she just looks so proud! :D :clap:

eileenclaire
02-07-2004, 12:17 AM
This is really interesting Kat. (and I love your chicken, by the way!) In a way I feel like I'm not a "purist" because I sometimes throw colored pencil in for the detail. If these are actually oil pencils, I could assuage my guilt and use them with abandon!

Kathryn Wilson
02-07-2004, 10:12 AM
This is really interesting Kat. (and I love your chicken, by the way!) In a way I feel like I'm not a "purist" because I sometimes throw colored pencil in for the detail. If these are actually oil pencils, I could assuage my guilt and use them with abandon!

Do you find that using CP's with oil pastels or soft pastels there is a problem with losing the tooth of the paper - I find my pastels sliding off of color pencils.

majestaero
02-07-2004, 10:58 AM
I know when I use CPs in conjuction with OPs it's on one end or the other. Sometimes I use a bit at the beginning just to remind myself of some lights and darks, but it's just lightly, so it doesn't affect the surface of the paper at all. When I use it for detail, it's pretty much sharp pencil thin lines, so again, not an issue. Sometimes I do use it more extensively over the CP to smooth out an area, but again the paper isn't a factor when I do that because the OP has taken up the tooth and the CP just kind of glides over it.

I think the key is that you have to fall short of burnishing with the CPs if you're going to use them first -- I can imagine that the OP would slide right off that surface. I don't know! Just a thought!

Linda

kimo
02-07-2004, 02:21 PM
Wow - what an interesting coincidence - I just found these exact same pencils this week and bought them. I found them at the local craft store. I bought the set of "pastel" colors. Haven't had a chance to try them yet.

BTW, love the chicken! :D

Kathryn Wilson
02-07-2004, 07:17 PM
Wow - what an interesting coincidence - I just found these exact same pencils this week and bought them. I found them at the local craft store. I bought the set of "pastel" colors. Haven't had a chance to try them yet.

BTW, love the chicken! :D

Yes, please let us know when you get a chance to try them out - always better to have more than one opinion! If you like them and want to buy more, I would try Ebay first - the ones I saw in our crafts store were 3 times what I paid on Ebay for a set of 24, including shipping.

Thanks for the chicken comment - it's exciting to find something that works after having such a hard time getting OP's to work for me.

Kathryn Wilson
02-08-2004, 06:14 AM
An update: used the oil pencils with Nupastels for a quick study sketch of a barn for the Weekend Drawing Event - they worked rather well with each other - the oils, of course, went over the pastels okay AND the nupastels went over the oil pencils with a light touch.

8 x 10 LaCarte Pastel card - orange

E-J
02-09-2004, 07:19 AM
Kat, congratulations on your find! I'm a chicken fancier so long as they're nicely roasted with garlic, lemon and herbs ;) This is terrific, though - I sense so much life and movement in your strokes. Nicely done!

Kathryn Wilson
02-09-2004, 09:00 AM
Kat, congratulations on your find! I'm a chicken fancier so long as they're nicely roasted with garlic, lemon and herbs ;) This is terrific, though - I sense so much life and movement in your strokes. Nicely done!

Thanks E-J: We had Rhode Island Reds when my kids were growing up and they gave the biggest double-yolk brown eggs - I miss them, but having animals ties you down and my hubby and I have turned into gypsies now that there are no kiddies in the house.

I had fun doing this hen, so look for more!

MKathleen
02-09-2004, 01:16 PM
:) Kat, so that is what oil pencils are and do..love that chicken! :clap:
Kathy

christmascarolnz
02-10-2004, 03:40 AM
Kat - this chook of yours is really rather good. Your style is a bit different with these pencils isn't it?
Carol

Kathryn Wilson
02-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Kat - this chook of yours is really rather good. Your style is a bit different with these pencils isn't it?
Carol

Hi Carol: Thanks for the comments - I really want to develop a style of working in OP's that I can live with - I don't have the patience that Sue and Mo. have, but I found that my way of working with soft pastels did not work with OP's either. This is more drawing than painting I think, but I enjoyed it too - putting down a base of oil pastels, then building up the details with the pencils seemed to work for me. Now to take on the big challenge of doing a whole painting this way and have it look right. :(

eileenclaire
02-10-2004, 10:27 AM
Kat, I love the style you used here, glad you found a way to use the ops that you enjoy. Can't wait to see you develop a whole painting with it!