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Katee
09-24-2000, 06:26 PM
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Hope this works.

I know this isn't good, but would appreciate comments and advice.

Thanks

Karen

HURRAY it actually worked first time http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by KaTee (edited September 24, 2000).]

nnelson1
09-25-2000, 03:53 PM
KaTee
Thanks for sharing this with us!
Please don't say, "I know this isn't good."; I think it shows A LOT of heart and tons of potential. You're a growing artist and where you were yesterday isn't where you are today and nowhere near where you'll be tomorrow. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Now, what do you want to accomplish with this work? Try to narrow down what you want the viewer to look at. Remember the bolder, darker hues will draw the eye. Right now, the grapes on the left and in the middle draw your vision. Is this what you were after? Do a little squinting at the painting and you'll see what upstages the rest.

I can see you're developing a familiarity with watercolors and you've incorporated some nice effects. Your background with the leaves and pink flowers is nice; simple "suggestions" of the flora. (No need to over do on detail for the backgrounds or else they cease to be backgrounds!) I also like the transparency of some of your greenery in the foreground.

Remember, if an object is in the foreground it will have more detail and bolder colors. Use a little planning to determine what the main subject is and try to use value to draw attention to it.

Most of all, just paint, paint, paint, study the work of artists you enjoy, read as many art books as you can get your hands on, take advantage of ArtSchool Online, and paint, paint, paint!

Thanks again for sharing.

Cheers!

Nick

sassybird
09-26-2000, 12:22 AM
Are you sure you aren't in Texas? lol Those look like Texas Bluebonnets to me not grapes.
You did a lot better than I when I produced my first watercolor. I think you will pick up little tricks as you move along as I did. Picking a little dark value here and there to pop out the lighter values etc... Rod has a wonderful lesson in watercolors here at wc, check him out when you can. I learned a lot from his lesson.

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sass

Katee
09-26-2000, 05:50 AM
nnelson 1 and sassybird, -

Thanks for your comments. I will take note of all the advice given, as I don't attend any formal classes, I'm relying on you all at WC to be my teachers.

Nnelson1 - The things you thought were grapes are actually 'delphiniums', but I don't mind if you see them differently.

Sassybird - maybe what you know as Texas Bluebonnets are what I call Delphiniums. I have seen Rods lessons (I admire his skills and also Oleccs) and as soon as I can fit it in I'm going to do them.

I've already picked up on so many things just from posting this and a drawing and sketch in the drawing and compostition forums.

I am starting to see where I can improve, and hopefully will put it into practice.

I've another watercolour which I will post soon, as I also need everyones advice.

Thanks to all, and further comments welcome from all you others out there.

Best wishes

Karen http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by KaTee (edited September 26, 2000).]

oleCC
09-26-2000, 08:14 PM
hey KaTee...you are beginning a wonderful journey with watercolors. Just keep painting and painting - and like has been suggested, read books!! If you do the lesson here that I posted (Quiet Time at the Lake) - and need help, just email me anytime or post here...happy to help if I can.
As for this one..can't add to what others have already said..contrasts and value changes are important.. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Carol

Lynda Mortensen
09-27-2000, 05:54 PM
Wow! This is really your first watercolour? This would be excellent for a tenth attempt, let alone a first!

Two things to improve it: Firstly 'tonal value' - the green of the background and the purple of the delphiniums are the same tone, squint your eyes and look at it and you will see that they merge, especially at the top. You need to change the tone of the background so that there is a clear difference to help your delphiniums stand out. Secondly the delphiniums look a little 'flat' so adding some deeper shadows in between the individual flowers and in the centres of the flowers would help to '3D' it.

Keep going, you're doing great! And give my love to England, I miss it like mad, especially Maltesers....

Lynda

Phyllis Rennie
09-29-2000, 08:48 PM
Hi Karen. I knew before I saw the comments that they were delphiniums so you ain't doin' too bad! Bluebonnets are different--a member of the lupine family. I think that if you had moved the one on the far right into the painting so the delphiniums were grouped together more and added more detail and interest to the area in front of them, you would have a stronger composition. The pink flowers in the background work nicely. Keep it up and keep sharing.

CarlyHardy
10-01-2000, 12:39 AM
Karen, I'm new to watercolor too. Your first attempt is far better than mine was...Mine got thrown out! But, don't do that with yours...date it on the back and tuck it away as a reminder in about two or three months of where you've come from! I have a few old drawings dated from my childhood (we won't mention how many years ago) that I really cherish. And they are quite awful!

I'm teaching a class on drawing right now...and here's the only thing I told them they must never forget.
Principles + Practice = Progress
Learn all you can....
Practice it all you can....
and watch what happens!
carly

ameliajordan
10-03-2000, 03:24 PM
Looks like a good first attempt. You just would not believe how bad some of mine were (are)... I think you've gotten some good comments - the values are so important but the most important is decideing what you want to say. I keep jumping in and it's much harder than if you plan ahead. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Katee
10-03-2000, 07:11 PM
Ameliajordan - you ar so right, I have had some really good comments and advice.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU

I'll be posting another watercolour soon, it's one I did shortly after this first one, so will still have many of my original faults, but looking forward to your views.

Thanks

Karen http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

JaneS
10-04-2000, 08:53 AM
KaTee, I've painted w.c. for years and will you tell you right now, painting a cluster of flowers is THE most difficult subject imaginable! And you've done well! I really hope you find w.c. rewarding, some find it discouraging. So, my suggestion is to see if you might enjoy learning the medium with a little easier subjects just at first, such as a more simple floral, or scenery.

Katee
10-04-2000, 07:27 PM
Carol - I have seen your lesson (quiet time at the lake) and will certainly be giving it a go.

Lynda - I agree with you and the others about the tonal values. One question about going back to a painting, are there any special techniques when re-working a painting? also,(just finishing a box of maltesers that I was given as a gift from one of my student nurses, hold out your hand and I'll throw you a few, don't they have them in the US?

Phyllis - did you really recognize them? I'm really pleased. I see now where my composition let me down, I think I was overawed with the location and being my first time. But have learnt a lot from my mistakes.

Carly - thanks, I'll date it and keep it for posterity! and remember your words of wisdom.

Jane - I love watercolour (it just doesn't love me quite as much yet) As mentioned above I was overawed by the location and was overambitious for a first painting (with no formal teaching or knowledge of colours etc)
I will definately carry on and will try something a little simpler in future.

Best Wishes to you all

Karen http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Phyllis Rennie
10-04-2000, 08:09 PM
Yes, I really did recognize them--I've had them in my garden. If you want to make them even more recognizable, try adding some leaves. Don't forget that each flower has its own particular leaf--size, shape, color of green, etc. Also stems are not all the same.

billyg
10-05-2000, 04:30 AM
KaTee,
Dont let coming from Yorkshire worry you. Just paint paint paint and then paint some more .
Welcome Luv.
Lancashire Billyg

Katee
10-05-2000, 06:39 PM
Billyg -

I'm a Yorkshire lass, and proud of it http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif and if only I could win the lottery nobody would stop me painting, painting and even more painting LOL

Karen http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif