Favourite Art lessons on DVD

[Biki]

Now that we have the invention of DVDs I may be able to buy some decent lessons.

I am putting this on Classical because I only want to learn Realism.

In the past I have missed out on many because we have PAL system down under - so does anyone have any suggestions.?

Also in the past I have bought some where the teacher paints in a way I am not yet interested in - lots of globby paint.

cheers

biki

[Biki]

i am interested in oils .... flemish - venetian - anything else?

[Huygens]

Just a thought, but have you looked in your local phone book for places that convert video tapes into formats your video can play?

Here in Japan where I live, the video prrotocol is different from many countries, but I have had videos from the USA , Italy and The Czech Republic converted into the Japanese format.

It didn't cost too much, and I'll bet this would work for you too.

Huygens

[Biki]

thanks - nice idea - but i live in a small town with few resources as such - DVD is a blessing for moi.

i guess i will just have to do my own homework (lazy little thing that i am)

;)

thanks for answering anyway

biki

[Craig Houghton]

If you manage to find some good instructionals in this area, please post the titles. I'd be interested myself!

-Craig

[Huygens]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Biki
[B]thanks - nice idea - but i live in a small town with few resources as such - DVD is a blessing for moi.

Actually, Biki, the place that I found which did this the best and cheapest was in Osaka . I'm in Tokyo. So I just mailed the videos down there. I would bet, like Japan, there are only a few places in Australia that do this, and all of them are accustomed to receiving and sending things from all over Australia.

Huygens

[MS_Triple]

Johnnie Liliedahl is offering DVD's of several interesting artists, (David Leffel, Scott Burdick, Dan Gerhartz, Scott Christensen, Robert Johnson, etc.). There is a new series called "In the Studio" that illustrate the process of building a full sized gallery painting from each artist's studio. Some are forthcoming in 2004.

Liliedahl Publications (http://www.lilipubs.com/)

[Biki]

Thank you MS - most appreciated. :)

[vee_209]

I really want to buy Dan Gerhartz's DVd set actually. it's going to cost me $200, which is a heck of a lot of money so I will take some time thinking about it.

Vee

[Biki]

Hi Vee,
i have since bought Dan's DVD & it did not cost me nearly that much.!!

I cannot remember how much, but it was well worth it.

thanks to MS Triple, i bought it thru Liliedahl Publications.
Very prompt & professional they were to deal with.

I must say that i have also recently seen some Daniel Green DVDs - and wow.!! these are also very professional & daniel is so thorough in his details. I learned a lot by these.

One i would not recommend is the bill whittaker one - well , the one i saw, anyway. It was very UNprofessional, with a room full of people talking in the background which was most annoying. Although i do love bill's work, there is no doubt about it. .... i just didn't learn much from it. :(

[DLJohnson]

Hi Biki,

I have used Liliedahl too, very good. I just got a Daniel Greene from her. I want them all!

I have the Craig Nelson pastel, this (in oil) may not be "realist" enough for you, not sure, but it is from life. Hmmm...I may get this. They don't have a good selection of classical portraiture, yet. The do have many in watercolor, seems they would have more in oils.

Oil Portrait From Life, A Quick Study - Craig Nelson

http://www.ccpvideos.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CN2d&Category_Code=VIDDVD&Product_Count=33

I called the to see if they ship to OZ but they are not open at 7am on Sat, imagine :cat:

Donna

Have you found any other good ones?

[Biki]

Hi Donna,

Yes, the David Leffle Nude Study, is amazing.

I think i am in love.!! :D

what a gentle & humble man he is.!!

i am expecting a Schmidt shortly.
stay tuned. ;)

[DLJohnson]

Hi,

CPC called me back this morning and they do ship overseas. She (Susan) said if the website gives anyone any trouble to fax, email, or call. Their toll free number is not international.

So here is their info if anyone wants anything from them:

Susan (and Jim)
(541) 926-3024
(541) 791-4326 FAX
susan@ccpvideos.com

[LGHumphrey]

Biki, has the Schmid arrived yet?

[Biki]

No Lawrence, not yet. :(

[LGHumphrey]

The movie preview of Craig Nelson's "Oil Portrait From Life, A Quick Study" looks really great. I've just ordered the DVD from CCP: 12 days to get here, they say.

[scandia3815]

The Dan Gerhartz DVD is expensive, but very informative if you admire his work, and the work of other artists in the Zorn/Sargent tradition such as Schmid, Burdick, etc...

Dan spends a good amount of time speaking about color temperature, and really drives the point home as he sculpts the young models face on the canvas. Seeing how he choose his warm/cool tones and really witnessing the turning of the form emerge on the canvas has inspired me to pay much closer attention to color temp., and from that alone my work has improved. Not to mention Gerhartz is a wonderful painter and it is a joy in itself to watch the painting emerge through the 6 hrs of video.

A great video... the only downside is the cost.

[thegodmother]

Hi Biki, et al,

I, too, am interested in some good instructional dvd's (one would be better than none!).

On the website "Web Gallery of Art", they write about Giorgioni thus: "he was the first painter who subordinated subject-matter to the evocation of mood".

This group of painters - the Flemish and Venetians after Giorgioni - it seems to me, also subordinated the paint and the brush-stroke, to the evocation of mood. This is what I am particularly looking for - the primary intent being the creation of mood and the subordination of the subject. and indeed, the painter.

I find that today's teachers are focused on showing what good painters they are (nothing personal - no intent to insult anyone) as opposed to creating a piece of work which inspires the imagination of each viewer to ponder what is going on outside of the frame - wherein each viewer has a different mental and emotional conversation about what they see. It's only my opinion, but if one sees the colors and brush strokes separately from the painting (without purposeful study), then the artist has raised him/herself to be the subject. I prefer the subtle, unspoken demand of the old Masters to recognize who they are because of the emotion I experience whenever I fall into one of their images.

As I live in BFE, taking an ongoing art class outside of my home is just not going to happen any time soon, so a good dvd would be most welcome....

Here's the url for the above site, btw: http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/bio/g/giorgion/biograph.html

Also, here is a site with receipts and techniques - "Mische Technique" - Traditional Master's Technique. Although her works are not what I am working to achieve, the technique is.

http://www.art4spirit.com/MischeTraditional.html

Have a great day!

[Biki]

Hi Biki, et al,

I, too, am interested in some good instructional dvd's (one would be better than none!).

On the website "Web Gallery of Art", they write about Giorgioni thus: "he was the first painter who subordinated subject-matter to the evocation of mood".

This group of painters - the Flemish and Venetians after Giorgioni - it seems to me, also subordinated the paint and the brush-stroke, to the evocation of mood. This is what I am particularly looking for - the primary intent being the creation of mood and the subordination of the subject. and indeed, the painter.

I find that today's teachers are focused on showing what good painters they are (nothing personal - no intent to insult anyone) as opposed to creating a piece of work which inspires the imagination of each viewer to ponder what is going on outside of the frame - wherein each viewer has a different mental and emotional conversation about what they see. It's only my opinion, but if one sees the colors and brush strokes separately from the painting (without purposeful study), then the artist has raised him/herself to be the subject. I prefer the subtle, unspoken demand of the old Masters to recognize who they are because of the emotion I experience whenever I fall into one of their images.

As I live in BFE, taking an ongoing art class outside of my home is just not going to happen any time soon, so a good dvd would be most welcome....

Here's the url for the above site, btw: http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/bio/g/giorgion/biograph.html

Also, here is a site with receipts and techniques - "Mische Technique" - Traditional Master's Technique. Although her works are not what I am working to achieve, the technique is.

http://www.art4spirit.com/MischeTraditional.html

Have a great day!

Pardon my ignorance, godmother, but where is BFE.?

I have heard of the Mische before, and wonder if it is the 9 (?) layer method that the Russian masters used. .... no pallete - but using all the colours of the rainbow to get to the end result. Fascinating, indeed.

[thegodmother]

Biki, the polite translation is "the boonies" "middle of nowhere" - it seems that hurricane Rita has found us, though....

I'm not familiar with the techniques of the Russian Masters, but looking at the site, she does use "whole painting" layering - eg one color over the whole, then another color over the whole, and so on, add detailed coloring toward the end. I use layering, but not like this, so I'm anxious to try it.

[Biki]

Oh, oh. Where in Texas are you.? :(

[LGHumphrey]

Craig Nelson's "A Quick Studies Oil Portrait From Life" has arrived and I think it's excellent value for $40.

Craig has been teaching for 30 years, though he only looks about 35.

He zips through what he calls a "character study"--as opposed to a more formal portrait--in not much more than an hour. Of course, when you've got the experience he has and can mix colours the way he does then it must be easy.

He draws a faint outline and eyes, nose, mouth with his brush, redraws it more accurately with darker paint, and then slaps a pancake makeup on the whole face. Now he goes to work refining the colours, from large areas to small.

If you're familiar with the demos on Morgan Weistling's website, suffice it to say that Craig uses exactly the opposite method (but still achieves a great result.) He believes you learn more by working quickly than slowly, and doesn't mind making a mistake and then correcting it.

The photography is very good--you sometimes see the painting he's working on, his palette, and a photo of the model (from virtually the same angle Craig is looking at the model from) all at the same time, and usually at least 2 of the 3.

He keeps up a steady chit-chat explaining what he's doing.

He seems to love his no. 12 bristle flat, because that's what he uses almost all the time.

Personally I'm still at the much-reviled "draw a pencil sketch and then paint up to the line from each side, but never over it" stage but I think Nelson's DVD will give me the courage to try to emulate the rough and ready, spontaneous, loose style he uses for his "character studies."