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Andy_S
10-15-2018, 05:50 PM
11x14 on Bristol Smooth using a Micron 005 (Several, actually!).

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2018/38155-chicago_canyon.jpg

mbankhead
10-16-2018, 10:43 AM
Excellent, I love it. :thumbsup:

KreativeK
10-16-2018, 10:55 AM
Wow, Andy, just wow on this magnificent masterpiece! So much intricate detail!

Charlie's Mum
10-21-2018, 05:29 PM
yes, quite an amazing drawing Andy!

pedlars pen
10-21-2018, 06:32 PM
Quite a masterpiece Andy - Picasso managed to achieve that with a few passionately scrawled lines whilst us lesser mortals must put in the endless work !
I hate doing architecture it's just a torturous discipline to me !
How do you get the softer grey lines that work so well ?
Mike.

Andy_S
10-21-2018, 06:58 PM
Thanks everyone.

Mike, those grey are actually very thin black lines. Typically, after doing a large drawing, my 005 microns wear down so I save them all and use them when I need lines even thinner than 005. I'll post a close up if you're interested.

pedlars pen
10-22-2018, 03:21 AM
Thanks everyone.

Mike, those grey are actually very thin black lines. Typically, after doing a large drawing, my 005 microns wear down so I save them all and use them when I need lines even thinner than 005. I'll post a close up if you're interested.

Yes please , I'd like to see a close up :), obviously any computer screen couldn't hope to capture the resolution needed to really look this work at 800dpi.
I'm surprised they wear out to leave a thinner line :confused:, I don't use microns myself because the way that manufacturer sizes their tips .Micron talk about the diameter of the tip while most other fine liner makers give the line thickness they give.
The outcome is that a 0.05 uniball (the finest tipped pens to my knowledge) is noticeably thinner than a Micron 0.05.
In fact a Uniball 0.01 size pen = a 0.05 Micron in their sizing :eek:.
Mike

eichin
10-22-2018, 03:57 AM
Excellent!!!!!!!

Andy_S
10-22-2018, 10:11 AM
Mike,

Here is a close up of the drawing:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2018/38155-Closeup_Canyon.jpg

The base of the lamp post and the garbage can were done using a new pen while the "grey" of the street (the barely visible lines) were done using a worn out pen.


I also took a photo of the pen tips (used and new) to show how they wear out. They tend to wear down long before they run out of ink, which is annoying, but they can still be used for extremely small lines.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2018/38155-pens.jpg

Hope this helps answer your questions.

pedlars pen
10-22-2018, 02:01 PM
Ah right , I get it now ,thanks for taking the trouble to show that.
I had no idea a fine liner could get THAT :eek: worn down & give such a thin yet still black line.Undoubtedly the line still is a pure black though.
No doubt you have a plentiful supply of 0.05's given the scale & detail density you work at .
Cheers Mike

toowoomba sketcher
10-22-2018, 10:45 PM
A masterpiece indeed, I admire your patience with this work. :)

jonc50
11-13-2018, 09:27 PM
Great piece of work!!

RoadLessTaken
11-15-2018, 10:24 PM
The outcome is that a 0.05 uniball (the finest tipped pens to my knowledge) is noticeably thinner than a Micron 0.05.
In fact a Uniball 0.01 size pen = a 0.05 Micron in their sizing :eek:.
Mike



This is useful info. I've been seduced by the Copics. The finest I have is an .03 which I wear out pretty quickly. I buy the .o3s and .05s constantly but may look into a uniball pen. (Also, in search of a good pen with white ink.... I'd prefer a fine nib but beggers cannot be choosers!



Also, and this is directed to anyone and everyone. Has anyone tried the electric stipplers? My hands are buggered by arthritis and therefore my stippling tends toward being small hoops. I saw the battery powered stippling gun and was entranced but thought I would ask here first.


Most appreciated!


Sheila aka RoadlessTaken

pedlars pen
11-16-2018, 05:01 AM
Also, and this is directed to anyone and everyone. Has anyone tried the electric stipplers? My hands are buggered by arthritis and therefore my stippling tends toward being small hoops. I saw the battery powered stippling gun and was entranced but thought I would ask here first.
Most appreciated!
Sheila aka RoadlessTaken

I never use stippling as a technique , well extremely rarely & then just for a small detail but was given one of those electric stipplers as a gift.
I hated it ! , I found that it was very coarse & unsubtle in it's effect.
The very strength of the technique IS subtleness & this just wasn't available at all.
M.Ramos who specialises in stippling tried one recently - http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1428875&page=2

I make dip pen handles & get a lot of commissions from arthritis sufferers & universally I have found they want a bigger diameter if handle & sometimes a specialist shape of the handle too which allows for a light easy grip.
WARNING -Stippling is on record as being very unsuitable for those with arthritis !
Mike

vhere
11-16-2018, 07:21 AM
incredible detail!

Boafamily
11-21-2018, 12:40 PM
Love the vanish point and details within.

RoadLessTaken
11-24-2018, 11:07 PM
I never use stippling as a technique , well extremely rarely & then just for a small detail but was given one of those electric stipplers as a gift.
I hated it ! , I found that it was very coarse & unsubtle in it's effect.
The very strength of the technique IS subtleness & this just wasn't available at all.
M.Ramos who specialises in stippling tried one recently - http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1428875&page=2

I make dip pen handles & get a lot of commissions from arthritis sufferers & universally I have found they want a bigger diameter if handle & sometimes a specialist shape of the handle too which allows for a light easy grip.
WARNING -Stippling is on record as being very unsuitable for those with arthritis !
Mike



Mike, Thanks for this! I knew I asked somewhere but needed to go back and find my question. My now primary hand is my right hand and Mr. Arthritis has yet to catch up on it. I used to do my artwork with my left hand but it's unreliable. I was told that doing needlework can help with arthritis so I bought a canvas and I'll work on it with my left hand hoping to regain some use. I will also consider a custom dip pen handle. I often use Copic pens and will look for those rubber grips made for those of us with this disease. I have medical devices implanted that allow for gross motor skills but I want and need to be back to my fine lines and illustrations for my own peace of mind!


Thank you again!
Sheila

Payne's Grey
12-27-2018, 07:15 PM
I thought your Chicago Train Depot was the ultimate P&I I've seen -- until this absolutely beautiful piece of art.

Andy_S
12-27-2018, 07:24 PM
Thank you for the kind words! Recently I had a guest over who saw it and commented that he used to work down this "canyon" so I made a print for him to hang up.