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CarlyHardy
08-29-2000, 10:12 AM
I wanted to try something with water! This still looks blah! to me because the water isn't working yet. Help! and anything else you'd like to comment on I'd appreciate!
carly
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ReNae
08-29-2000, 10:28 AM
Carly,

Maybe adding stronger reflections in the water may help. Especially near the edges. All the reflections look the same, as you move out into the water away from the shoreline the reflections aren't as strong. Make sense??

BTW, this is a very nice piece.

Warmth,
ReNae

tammy
08-29-2000, 05:37 PM
Well, I don't know much about *Correct*
water, but your's looks pretty good to me.
I think stronger reflections too.
Anyway, that's better water than I usually
do in any medium.

Lisa
08-29-2000, 11:02 PM
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All I did Carly is deepen everything. In the water I deepend just the shadow areas.

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oleCC
08-30-2000, 07:40 AM
Carly...I do agree with the comments on the water - and Lisa has done a nice rendition.
The only thing I would add is to lighten the lights in the water Lisa did...a bit more contrast ..MHO This is a nice painting Carly...I do especially like the way you did the impressions of people..! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Carol

LDianeJohnson
08-30-2000, 09:04 AM
Sorry to be coming in in the middle of your painting discussion. Your painting is lovely Carly. If I could offer a couple ideas...

Now that you have strengthened the water, pull out some of the areas within the reflections. In other words, remove some darks in the lighter reflections, i.e. light roofs, sky holes etc. to give your reflections a bit more contrast. Then strengthen the value of specific things like the under side of the gazebo's reflection. Then leave the rest of the water as it is now. Just a bit of contrast is needed in little places to pull the wonderfully colored, defined top part of the painting with the bottom reflection area.

Diane

ameliajordan
08-30-2000, 04:34 PM
Sounds like good hints. I agree about how good the impression of people are. Looking at the tree near the bank, I think the sun direction would allow you to strengthen the shadow of the bank on the edge of the water. At a workshop, our instructor showed how to do this by painting a darker line and then painting clear water just above and under the line so that the darker line would spread out. I don't know if I'm saying this clearly but it worked on a pond bank for me.


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CarlyHardy
08-31-2000, 11:27 PM
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This is the final version! Hope I got it right....carly

LDianeJohnson
09-01-2000, 10:07 AM
This has wonderfully developed since your first posting. The painting works together as a whole very well. This was an ambitious subject with so many elements within it. Lovely.

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ameliajordan
09-01-2000, 02:08 PM
Carly - what a neat "before & after" demo you gave us. The soft rose over the final really pulls all the elements together into a unified painting. Very nice.

CarlyHardy
09-01-2000, 06:50 PM
Amelia, I've been accused of looking at life thru rose colored glasses....actually I think mine are tinted violet!
carly
Thanks everyone....now on to the an oil!!!!

Rod
09-01-2000, 07:43 PM
Yes I agree more contrast is needed in reflections and a good dark where the bottom of the bank meets the water.
One more comment is to what is actually reflected,The edge of the bank would be , but the flat grass immediately above would not, just the front edge and the top of the building.
When you look down to the water , remember your line of sight meets the water at an angle, the angle off the water to the objects reflected is the same angle. So if you were looking across at say 30 degrees, form the point of reflection only objects that are on the 30 degree line would be seen.
Difficult to explain will do an example to post,
Rod


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Rod
09-01-2000, 07:47 PM
In the meantime , think of a pool table, the ball always always bounces off the side cushion at exactly the same angle it as it hits. ( for those pool players we are assuming no side spin was used). So if the cushion could reflect it would show the balls final resting place after it had bounced off the cushion,
Rod

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