Doaks new earth pallet

[Linda Ciallelo]

I just learned about this pallet of earth colors from Doaks. I imagine to be used for an intial painting and then you could glaze a bit of color over the top. I will definitely try these when I get some money. I will also ask him if he will grind some white in linseed oil for faster drying. I think it says that he will on other sheets. I tried to upload tthe sheet but it didn't work. I will try again.

[Linda Ciallelo]

Let's see if this will work.

[Huygens]

I think it was Mayers who wrote about all the different shades of umber and ochre. As I remember, different shades come frrom different countries. Whether they are different colors or not, I don't know. It strikes me that a greenish umberr would still be umber. Does that make any sense?

Huygens

[Craig Houghton]

I've found this old thread from February where you posted Doaks catalog. It's an interesting read.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86887

If you get them, I'd love to see some swatches of the new colors (or the old ones at that).

Thanks for the heads up on this interesting supplier,
Craig

[Linda Ciallelo]

Hi Craig, yes, I am very curious as to what color these actually are. I have learned from buying WAY too much paint , that you never can tell unless you buy it and try it. I have been talking to Linoxyn lately about the usefullness of ochres. The variety of ochres is amazing in many brands. Williamsburg has a set of Italian earths tthat I am still trying to figure out how to use. I have the feeling tthat if I ever do figure it out, I will have really learned something helpful.
I just recently bought all Old Hollands ochres to see what color they actually are. There is flesh ochre, red ochre,brown ochre dark and light,yellow ochre burnt, yellow ochre half burnt, yellow ochre deep,OH ochre, and yellow ochre light.
I found that OH burnt sienna, red ochre, and light red, are all the same color with a slightly different texture.
OH yellow ochre burnt is the same color as their brown ochre light, it's very reddish(orangey).
Williamsburgs orange ochre is the same as OH brown ochre light. Williamsburgs raw sienna is the same color as OH yellow ochre half burnt. And on and on we go.

[Tammy Marie]

Originally posted by Huygens
I think it was Mayers who wrote about all the different shades of umber and ochre. As I remember, different shades come frrom different countries. Whether they are different colors or not, I don't know. It strikes me that a greenish umberr would still be umber. Does that make any sense?

Huygens

Yes, it makes sense. Different umbers are different colors but they are all still umbers. If you want to see a really amazing array of real earth colors get a Kremer Pigment Catalog, order some, and mix them up yourself. The earth colors are really cheap (a little less than $10 a pound - enough to almost fill a 1 quart canning jar) and it is a great mess but great fun too! Awesome paint also. They have a website:
www.kremerpigments.com

They have 21 ochres, 11 umbers, and 13 siennas in the modern pigments section and this doesn't even include the historical pigments. I expected them to be gritty and require tedius grinding but it was really no big deal at all.

I have only made small batches and haven't ordered tubes to put paint in but this really is my favorite paint, it's just cleaning up the mess I really dislike.

Tam