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Helen
09-16-2017, 10:45 PM
I started this grunge journal a few years back but set it aside as I got interested in other things. While looking for something else it resurface and I decided it was time to start working in it again.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Sep-2017/998-grunge_journal.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Sep-2017/998-grunge_journal_2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Sep-2017/998-grunge_journal_3.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Sep-2017/998-grunge_journal_4.jpg

Monastic Bat
09-17-2017, 11:25 AM
Nice work, I look to seeing more.
Regards,
Greg

Munin Raven
09-17-2017, 02:00 PM
Nice creative pages. Painting over the print is a neat touch. Hope to see more. :thumbsup:

KreativeK
09-22-2017, 02:36 PM
It is really super, Helen, love grunge and your amazing sketches add to the charm.

Joan T
09-22-2017, 06:14 PM
I like the anything goes look to your pages, Helen. Glad you started working in this again.

eyepaint
09-23-2017, 07:37 PM
Oh ho this looks good. Keep it up :)

Helen
10-04-2017, 10:39 AM
A few more done in my Grunge Journal
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Oct-2017/998-a_bride.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Oct-2017/998-in_prayer.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Oct-2017/998-old_salt.jpg

eyepaint
10-04-2017, 09:46 PM
I like the piece with three colours on the left and the woman on the right.

KreativeK
10-05-2017, 11:25 AM
Good, great, and glorious Helen! Is this an old paperback you used or did you adhere separate pages to a sketchbook?

Joan T
10-05-2017, 10:17 PM
Great job on the people. Are you sketching over gesso or white gouache?

Helen
11-03-2017, 10:19 AM
Kay, this Grunge Journal is an old book that had no value, the spine had been chewed along the top edge. I gessoed the pages, glued some together and added collage to some of the pages. One thing I found was the gessoed pages ate up the graphite in my pencils so I'm doing a bit more experimenting. I'll explain what I did different on these....
Nothing different on her, I did add a bit of color with gel pens but otherwise just pencil on gessoed page
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2017/998-grunge_woman_from_south_america.jpg

For this guy I tried gloss medium over the gesso. Too hard to get a pencil mark so I'll try something different.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2017/998-grunge_bahama_man.jpg

On this one I added some acrylic paint over the collaged papers. Still not good for pencil work and The collaged papers are too prominent.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2017/998-grunge_amish_girl.jpg

This last one is close to what I think I may do in the future, at least for some. I added a piece of handmade paper to the side that I was going to use for the image. Easier to draw on but the paper is a bit thick. I think I'll try rice paper next. I'm also thinking perhaps adding watercolor over the collaged papers may work better as it will soak into the paper rather than leave a plastic coat over it. More experimenting to do..
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2017/998-grunge_guitar_player.jpg

Helen
11-03-2017, 10:34 PM
And this weekends wde entry was done in my grunge journal. This time I used a page that I had put a tea bag on. I liked working on the tea bag paper, may have to start replacing my daily coffee with tea.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2017/998-grunge_doorway.jpg

KreativeK
11-03-2017, 10:43 PM
I'm really liking your work in these pages, Helen, so inspiring. I may try doing that but using craft white acrylic paint as it is thinner than gesso but would have the same effect...would not eat up pencil lead.

Monastic Bat
11-04-2017, 10:09 AM
I like all of these especially the Tea Bag paper. Your process is most interesting and I look forward to seeing more.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Regards,
Greg.

Helen
11-04-2017, 11:47 AM
I'm really liking your work in these pages, Helen, so inspiring. I may try doing that but using craft white acrylic paint as it is thinner than gesso but would have the same effect...would not eat up pencil lead.

Good idea, cheap white paint my do the trick.

Joan T
11-05-2017, 06:11 PM
Love the way you are experimenting! The tea bag page came out really good!

KreativeK
11-06-2017, 11:31 AM
There are some who are doing paintings solely on used, dried tea bags. So tiny yet so amazing.

Helen
11-06-2017, 03:14 PM
Two more... one from a few days ago and the other done yesterday. Still working on todays....

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2017/998-grunge_silversmith.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2017/998-grunge_african_woman.jpg

provenceaquarelle
11-06-2017, 04:14 PM
Both great!

Keep on, and don't makes wait so long.;)

Helen
11-07-2017, 03:29 PM
This is yesterday's Grunge entry. another view of the guitar player and no, he wasn't playing at Logan's Roadhouse, that's just something that was sitting on my desk and seemed appropriate so I clued it on.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2017/998-grunge_guitar_player_again.jpg

provenceaquarelle
11-08-2017, 04:10 AM
Love it!

KreativeK
11-08-2017, 12:35 PM
Love all the new ones not seen yet. FYI I did try the cheap white craft acrylic and it was so thin I could still see the text, so painted several coats...will try sketching or painting over that.

Helen
11-08-2017, 07:54 PM
Kay, if you look closely you can see the text under my drawings, it adds a bit of mystery and other than posting here I don't plan to show this one anyway.

Today I was listening to Verdi's Requium (sp) so I looked him up and tried a drawing of him. I also folded some new tortillons and was thinking of some of the artists we've lost over in the wde... Sharron was one, she showed how to make these and I think of her every time I roll one of them. Connie was another.... her determination was so inspiring. Guess maybe I'd better go over there and post this, or do a link...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2017/998-verdi.jpg

eyepaint
11-08-2017, 10:42 PM
Wonderful work, and agree on the reminiscing... sigh...

KreativeK
11-09-2017, 02:29 PM
Love this guy!
Yes, those two artists were very special and I know we all miss them. Plus Deano. As far as I know he never missed a WDE!

otherworlder
11-13-2017, 10:38 AM
Very cool! I love the freedom and expressive of your pages.

Joan T
11-13-2017, 08:55 PM
Helen, great job on these pages. I like the drawings over the text. I haven't checked in the WDE in so long. Sad to hear the group lost a few people.

Helen
11-19-2017, 08:11 AM
Thanks Joan...
Three more... after doing Verdi I decided to try doing two of my favorite artists.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Nov-2017/998-vincent.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Nov-2017/998-tolouse.jpg
Can you tell who they are?
Finally, last week was my good friend Joan's funeral; I wasn't able to go so during the time of the funeral I did this drawing of her....
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Nov-2017/998-joan_small.jpg
She was a beautiful woman, inside and out, one of my forever friends and she will be missed.

eyepaint
11-19-2017, 11:46 AM
Looks great, Helen. I don't know the names of those artists :(

Monastic Bat
11-19-2017, 04:46 PM
Helen, I like Lautrec better than Van Gogh but both, plus the sketch of your friend, are nice sketches.
Regards,
Greg

KreativeK
11-19-2017, 09:19 PM
Wonderful!!! I'd know Henri anywhere and Vincent, too. A sweet and sensative sketch of your dear friend as well.

Helen
11-28-2017, 02:13 PM
I'm a sucker for a cherub. I have done several in a variety of ways, why not add one to the grunge journal. This little guy is done on a teabag thanks to a tea drinking friend who gave me a supply of them.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Nov-2017/998-grunge_cherub.jpg

eyepaint
11-28-2017, 04:00 PM
Awww :)

provenceaquarelle
11-28-2017, 04:05 PM
:thumbsup:

Joan T
11-28-2017, 08:26 PM
Love the cherub! Great materials too.

KreativeK
11-29-2017, 11:46 AM
Love this sweet cherub, Helen! The teabag is a perfect companion.

Trikist
12-01-2017, 09:00 AM
I always enjoy work where the use of materials is as creative as the handling of the subject. Gary

Helen
12-07-2017, 09:52 AM
Another cherub, not finished but time to move on
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Dec-2017/998-grunge_cherub_2.jpg

KreativeK
12-07-2017, 11:49 AM
A sweet second cherub napping with the city in the bg and patterned front foreground. Addition of the stars makes it so celestial, too! Love this one.

Helen
12-08-2017, 09:05 PM
This is my second try at drawing my grandfather. Itís better but still not him.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Dec-2017/998-5BA5CFD6-2189-4D2D-A756-6A0D842B6AA0.jpeg
This is the photo Iím working from... I donít think the eyes are right and his face is too wide.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Dec-2017/998-373B27E9-7964-49BC-9572-1E57424DB4D1.jpeg
This is the first attempt, I can see improvement but ...http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Dec-2017/998-35E06F0B-B8AC-4CD2-83F7-06B0C7072F25.jpeg

Joan T
12-08-2017, 09:46 PM
Nicely done, Helen! I love these portraits done over the paper's print.

KreativeK
12-09-2017, 10:01 AM
Me too, love your graphic portraits in the journal! Agree he is a handsome guy. May have his eyes too far apart in the first one.

robertsloan2
12-09-2017, 11:02 AM
Sweet cherubs! Pretty close on your grandfather's likeness. Very cool.

Trikist
12-09-2017, 12:01 PM
The personal connections might be more important than the photo reference. If the photo comes to feel like your Grandfather, that is success? Gary

Helen
12-28-2017, 09:48 PM
This seems to be becoming a family album. This is my great grandmother, Sarah Noble Hamilton Smith. I never knew her but I think I've captured her likeness. No one will know for certain since everyone who did know her is long gone. And now that I see her on the screen I see a spot under her lips that needs attention.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Dec-2017/998-Anna_Sarah_Noble.jpg

robertsloan2
12-29-2017, 09:57 PM
She looks good. Without seeing the photo reference I couldn't say, but she looks very good from here.

I did see one proportion detail on this glance at your grandfather that might be the problem. The distance from the bottom of his nose to the place his lips meet is exactly the same as from that point to the underside of his chin - that gives him a long upper lip. In the photo he has a short upper lip and a rather long chin. Next time you do him, check proportions carefully on placement of features and whether they're the right size for the face. Even very slight changes can break the likeness.

Those are almost the worst because the results still look pretty good and would be okay on someone else's face. The feature is accurately drawn, it's right, what's wrong? Shapes of foreheads and chins are like negative space anyway.They don't have the intensity of eyes and mouths. Nose is well done but it's also shorter in relation to its width than in the photo, where he's got a long narrow nose. And a short upper lip.

Helen
12-30-2017, 02:40 PM
Thank you Robert, all things that I didn't see but now that you've pointed them out.... glaring. I have a few other old photos to work on but I think I will do Grandpa again. He was a handsome man and I'd like to get him right.

robertsloan2
01-02-2018, 08:11 AM
Blow up the photo reference and measure proportions, that may help. If I don't do that I still fall into that same kind of error. Have to at least rough out the proportions at start or a mistake there will compound itself.

There are some psychological reasons for it. Eyes and mouths carry a lot of emotional information, so do eyebrows. foreheads, chins, and the middles of noses do not. So emotionally an artist can easily wind up exaggerating the meaningful features compared to the rest and then distort face shape to accommodate them. I didn't even notice "depth of upper lip" other than routinely measuring till I got a good long look at Stephen King's photo on the back of his book and figured out why he was funny looking when he should be so seriously handsome. It's that his upper lip is extremely long.

Helen
01-19-2018, 08:13 PM
Thank you Robert, makes sense and I will try one more time but this journal is almost done, need to start another one.

I haven't done anything for awhile, the holidays got in the way. Did this quick one today, getting back to work. Channeling one of my favorite artists.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Jan-2018/998-grunge_channeling_Henri.jpg

KreativeK
01-20-2018, 10:11 AM
Easy to recognize Toulouse Lautrec! Love it Helen!

eyepaint
01-20-2018, 04:17 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Jan-2018/998-grunge_channeling_Henri.jpg


Love it!!

robertsloan2
01-21-2018, 12:52 PM
Great sketch of the lady in the style of Toulouse Lautrec! Good profile and strong values. Love that hair.

Meisie
01-30-2018, 02:03 PM
Such a good idea for a sketchbook-journal....I think I'm inspired ;) :) TY!

Joan T
01-30-2018, 04:27 PM
Love the sketches you've done in this journal!!

Helen
01-31-2018, 04:12 PM
-Anoher one done... this is my great-grandfather.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jan-2018/998--Sylvanus.jpg
Only two more pages in this journal, time to make another one. This one turned out to be mostly faces; have to decide what the next one will be.

Helen
02-19-2018, 04:39 PM
And the old woman Kay posted in this weekend's wde was perfect for my grunge journal. I've started a new one and here's a link to the wde where she's posted. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1443110

laudesan
02-21-2018, 03:49 AM
What fabulous works!!

Joan T
02-23-2018, 09:22 PM
Very nice job on this last one of your great-grandfather!

Helen
03-07-2018, 05:30 PM
Another one in my new grunge journal... this. Time my son.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Mar-2018/998-A5DF0BB2-0047-4522-8F7F-1B7FCFEE21D6.jpeg

eyepaint
03-07-2018, 05:45 PM
Love the version with your son :)

Meisie
03-07-2018, 07:05 PM
Oh very nice indeed!

Joan T
03-07-2018, 09:24 PM
This journal is so great!!

KreativeK
03-08-2018, 06:35 AM
Both these men are handsome, Helen, wow!

Helen
04-02-2018, 03:11 PM
Thanks everyone. Didn't realize how long it has been since I've posted here. This weekend's WDE has the image I'm working on now. here's a link (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21334175#post21334175)

Helen
05-26-2018, 08:22 PM
Finally getting back to the grunge journal and an old WDE image. The WDE image is from quite awhile back, not sure when even but here is Queen Victoria
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-May-2018/998-Queen_Victoria_Statue.jpg
And here is my grandmother as a young woman... I don't have her eyes quite right yet but it's very close. Still a work in process...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-May-2018/998-Grunge_grandma_percy.jpg

provenceaquarelle
05-27-2018, 03:11 AM
Victoria is really ressemblant! Congratulations.

Don't forget to show us your grandmother when it is finished, please.

KreativeK
05-30-2018, 01:52 PM
Very good of the Queen, and your own grandmother who appears very royal herself!!!

Joan T
05-30-2018, 08:58 PM
Looks like you've captured royalty for both. Nice!!

eyepaint
05-30-2018, 10:45 PM
Indeed that does look like Queen Victoria - well done!!

Delofasht
05-31-2018, 02:36 AM
I really like the bits of words showing through under some of the drawings and overall effect of the grunge journals. These kinds of pages seem perfect for portrait studies, thanks so much for sharing!

Helen
05-31-2018, 10:14 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-May-2018/998-DC8FCC4F-FD3F-4D7A-AC70-F864E99F0FBE.jpeg Finished Grandma, now time to start on great grandma

Helen
06-01-2018, 08:12 AM
Two more done... my great grandmother and one for a wde
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jun-2018/998-Mary_Sophie_Browning_Percy.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jun-2018/998-5_24_old_barn.jpg

Sonia
06-04-2018, 05:33 PM
Your portrait studies are really looking good.

Delofasht
06-05-2018, 03:26 AM
Great job on the portrait and landscape. Really interesting building.

Helen
06-17-2018, 03:03 PM
One more in the works... I'm having trouble getting his mouth right but I'm calling him done for now.... I will get back to him some day. For some reason wc doesn't want him upright... I've tried a few times, giving up.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2018/998-Uncle_Carl.jpg

eyepaint
06-17-2018, 04:42 PM
Well done, Helen. He's upright for me. I admire his steely eyes :)

provenceaquarelle
06-18-2018, 05:06 AM
Well done, Helen.

You have retouched your Grandma's right eye, thus softening her expression. Way to go!!

Your great-grandma looks so sweet.

Your portraits are great!!

Thank you for sharing.

KreativeK
06-19-2018, 11:22 AM
Your new ones are fantastic, Helen!

Helen
08-25-2018, 09:20 AM
It's hard to do a child in this style, I hesitate to make the darks dark enough. However, when my grandson saw the one of his dad he said I had to have him in there too so.... here he is. Have to add, he is so not like his dad in this regard. When his dad was a boy he did not want me to draw him ever... he's grown out of that thank goodness.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Aug-2018/998-Warner.jpg

Sonia
08-25-2018, 10:40 AM
You've definitely captured a very youthful face.

KreativeK
08-31-2018, 11:50 PM
Very good! He looks to be a very sweet little boy.

provenceaquarelle
09-01-2018, 03:22 AM
Very sweet!

Helen
10-29-2018, 09:57 AM
Well that old guy over at the wde had to go in my Grunge Journal. Here's a link (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1456063) if you want to see him.

KreativeK
10-29-2018, 10:48 AM
Definitely I do, thanks!

Joan T
12-24-2018, 11:58 AM
Oh, I love the one of your grandson!!! These are all great. Glad I finally have time to catch up on what I missed.

Helen
02-09-2019, 12:27 PM
Finally got back to my grunge journal. This is my grandmother's brother

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2019/998-Ungle_Kenneth_1.jpg

The photo of him is a bad photocophy. I'm not unhappy with it but didn't quite get him, just got a good looking gentleman. I'll do him again but not right away.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2019/998-unkle_k_photo.jpg

Helen
02-11-2019, 09:19 AM
Another one in my grunge journal, the blacksmith over on the weekend drawing event. Here's a link (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1461348)

KreativeK
02-14-2019, 06:40 PM
Your grandmother's brother is quite handsome, Helen, so will watch if you redo his likeness. The blacksmith I liked a lot, too.