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Gisela
07-27-2000, 10:41 PM
Hey Mal and Carly...
This Yupo is very strange to use! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif
It's really slick and the paint seems to float on top of the surface. You can push the paint around any which way, and if that doesn't work, just grab a rag and wipe it off! In a way, it's hard to control, but in another way you have total control. Hmmmmm...oh, yeah, that makes loads of sense, doesn't it?

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I went to the beach yesterday and the paper was delivered today, so I thought I'd try a (very) simple beach scene. Just to get the feel of this stuff...lots of fun...I think.
Once all the paint was completely dry, using a VERY light touch, I added the schooner at the end and lifted the sails and seagulls and some spray in the water. Even dried paint lifts completely!! After an hour, I saw some lines that I didn't care for and just wiped them a bit with a slightly damp brush--gone!
I won't be able to use this for most of my work, but it is fun and forgiving. I'm going to try your sunflowers, Carly, and see if I can get a grip on this stuff. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

If anyone uses Yupo, Please post here with any tips or techniques that you've used. After 20 years of painting watercolors, I feel like a newbie!

Gisela

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rapolina
07-28-2000, 03:09 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/confused.gif what's YUPO ???

ciao, http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif rapolina

oleCC
07-28-2000, 07:42 AM
Hey Gis... I have been missing you - have not been able to get to chat lately. Yupo?? Like Rapolina, I don't think I ever heard of it!
Is this a brand of textured clayboard that we were talking about here? : ) Carol

Gisela
07-28-2000, 10:05 AM
{{{{{{Carol!}}}}}}

Yupo is a synthetic paper, used to be called Kindura, made in Japan. It's almost like a plastic, and hard to tear.
I've searched all over the web, and I've found many acclaimed artists using this paper, but no info on how to use to it. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif

I've got 10 full sized sheets of it, so I guess I'll keep playing with it until I figure it out. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Gisela


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harramiller
07-28-2000, 03:41 PM
I have been using the Yupo on and off for 6 months or so. I have three or four pretty successful paintings and very few failures, because of course a wet rag obliterates the entire painting!
I have introduced a number of painting friends to it, and those that are even somewhat control freaks really don't like it. However, if, like me, you enjoy watercolor's participation in the process, this stuff is FUN. Back washes take on intriguing patterns. Whites can be lifted out completely. Brush strokes and rhythms are apparent unless you take a lot of time to hide them.
To best way describe how the color moves across the paper: does anyone remember fingerpaints in kindergarten? There was special, slippery paper where I went to class, and there was always a telltale pattern of how the color was applied to the paper.
Please DO try it at least once, and then move on if it's not to your taste.
Warnings:Be advised that a finished work must be fixed. Even a drop of water onto the paint surface (after painting is dry) will have an impact. And wash your hands before handling the paper: I have a couple with apparent fingerprints along the edge!!!
Finally, I use a spray matte finish when I'm satified with my results.

Gisela
07-28-2000, 06:04 PM
Thanks harramiller,
Welcome to WetCanvas! I learned about the fingerprints real quick! That's why that little schooner is in there. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
What kind of fixative do you use? Does it change the appearance of the painting?

Nice to meet 'cha!
Gisela


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Gisela
07-28-2000, 11:30 PM
Hi Sandi,
The price is very reasonable. I got a 10-pack of 22x33 from Cheap Joe's for $16.95.

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Gisela

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cassandra
07-29-2000, 01:43 AM
I'm back from a wonderful week-long workshop with Judy Hoiness on creativity. She suggested Yupo, as a surface particularly good for scraping, wiping and writing on with many kinds of texturizing instruments, because of it's ability to come clean with a wipe. It generally requires a one-shot approach, she warned, as going back to glaze will lift off the previous layer of paint.

Thanks, harramiller, for the fixative advice. I see that Cheap Joe's has 3 weights of paper. Is there an advantage to greater weight seeing that it's so plastic?
cassandra

oleCC
07-29-2000, 02:29 AM
Think I will wait until after I have tried my hand at the textured clayboard first. LOL
This sounds pretty hard to handle for such as I......... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Carol
PS: Hi there Harramiller,,,,,,and Welcome!

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Rod
07-29-2000, 05:02 AM
wow, both sure sound different, wonder if its available in NZ. Must check, thanks Gis ,
Rod


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Gisela
07-29-2000, 10:12 AM
Cassandra,
I don't think the weight matters too much. I got the medium weight. This stuff does not buckle at all, so there's no need to stretch it.

Rod,
If you can't find it down under, e-mail me your address and I'll cut one of these sheets into quarters and mail it to you. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Gisela

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Gisela
07-29-2000, 02:13 PM
Well, tried another one...I think I almost like this one...maybe. Maybe not? ok, back to pushing paint. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Gisela



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BillieD
07-30-2000, 09:17 AM
Gisela, I love the sunflower!

A few questions about Yupo. I have seen some of the stuff, and wonder, how would it be framed? It is so lightweight, would it be drymounted first?

And, has anyone tried putting down their first layer, then useing fixative, then adding more glazes? Would this work? (I love to glaze!)

Since it is so 'plastic' does it take a long time to dry? Could it be dried with a hairdryer? Or would it cause it to buckle?

I have been very tempted to try Yupo, the price is so reasonable. But, once I saw it, I was beseiged with questions. The lady who showed it to me is an abstract expressionist, and loved the unpredictability of the paper. But, I admit to being very much a control freak, albeit a bullheaded one. I would probably beat the paper into submission, but, would like to know if anyone else has tried these ideas before I try it.

Any information and experiences would be welcome.

Billie Dawn

llis
07-30-2000, 11:46 AM
Gisela: I love the sunflower too!

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Gisela
07-30-2000, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by BillieD:

A few questions about Yupo. I have seen some of the stuff, and wonder, how would it be framed? It is so lightweight, would it be drymounted first?

And, has anyone tried putting down their first layer, then useing fixative, then adding more glazes? Would this work? (I love to glaze!)

Since it is so 'plastic' does it take a long time to dry? Could it be dried with a hairdryer? Or would it cause it to buckle?

Billie Dawn

Hi Billie,
I think that framing will not be a problem at all. I mounted the sunflower on matboard with linen tape. this stuff is so strange, that I was worried about whether the tape would even stick to it, but it worked fine. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
I don't know about the fixative, but I did some glazing on the sunflower piece. It calls for a VERY light touch. I seem to have more control when using more pigment and less water. The water and pigment kind of separate on the surface when the mix is thin--it's weird.
Yupo does take longer to dry, since the paint doesn't soak into the paper. You can use a hairdryer...but with caution. The first time I tried it...it was set on high and pushed the paint right off the paper!! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
I know what you mean about the control issue, Billie. Me too! But do try the Yupo. I'm finding that it's a lot of fun to give up some control. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Gisela

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BillieD
07-30-2000, 11:30 PM
Thanks for the helpful info. I am seriously considering trying it. I think I'll ask Sandee to sell me a sheet of hers, before I invest in a package.

Of course, regarding the 'control', as I said, Sandee is an abstract expressionist, I think the point is to get me to loosen up a bit anyway. I am a rank beginner and feel I have to have control!!!!!!

Yupo is probably just what I need to lend a bit of emotion to the technical struggle. Mix a bit of anquish into the presentation http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif.

Thanks again,
Billie Dawn

Rod
08-01-2000, 04:17 AM
Thanks for the kind gesture Gis,
Love your sunflower, paper sure does look promising, perhaps it would loosen up my style,
Will check out my local art store and let you know,
Rod,

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harramiller
08-01-2000, 04:15 PM
Thanks for all the kind welcomes I see. Also looks like all the questions got answered by someone or other, and the answers matched my experience. My several paintings on Yupo are very loose (representational) and are three of my favorite. As soon as I can get my PC at home back on-line (just moved to a new home and that's low priority), I will learn how to post an image and share my results.

RyderArt
08-01-2000, 09:22 PM
Great Sunflower Gisela!!!
Somewhere in the past (heaven knows how long ago!) there was an article about an artist who used Yupo or it was an article about different papers! You know how my mind works...it doesn't most of the time!!
Anyway...if you are like me....and keep all your magazines...you can go back and look for it. It is in either American Artist or The Artist's Magazine.
I also think that Acrylics might be interesting to try on this stuff!!!

Stephanie

tgault
08-02-2000, 02:57 PM
Is this stuff acid free?

Gisela
08-04-2000, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by tgault:
Is this stuff acid free?

Yes.

Steph,
I've read that it works quite well with acrylics.

Gisela



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pampe
10-20-2002, 10:32 PM
yupo stuff for the newbies :clap:

Beach Baby
10-20-2002, 11:49 PM
I think its interesting that even thought I am not particularly fond of Yupo, I sell everything I paint on the stuff.

Beach Baby
10-20-2002, 11:51 PM
Here's another. I tend to throw these things in the the reject binds and shows with a simple mat on them and they are the first gone. I still don't get it!