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napier
04-16-2017, 07:03 AM
Finished painting of the battle for Ludendorff bridge, Remagen March 1945. Oil on canvas 760x510mm. After the US Army captured the only bridge still standing across the river Rhine,after the German Army failed to destroy it. Hitler sent the Luftwaffe to destroy the bridge. This was the first time that the Luftwaffe used solely jets after the heavy defence of the US army caused high casualties when they used the conventional bombers. The bridge was never hit and eventually collapsed after two weeks of use by the US Army.I have included a black & white photo also.

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/16-4-17cw_zpsesfcxdzi.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/16-4-17cw_zpsesfcxdzi.jpg.html)

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/16-4-17cw-bw_zpsoyha3z5b.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/16-4-17cw-bw_zpsoyha3z5b.jpg.html)

Yorky
04-16-2017, 07:41 AM
Brilliant! A story rarely told.

Doug

NeilF92
04-16-2017, 08:40 AM
A lot of work gone into that one Don The 262 stands out better in the black/white version I think . Not sure if you could make the fore part of the colour version stand out more given the nature of the camouflage and the busy town scene below . Really nice painting nevertheless.

vegaskip
04-16-2017, 11:19 AM
Like the aircraft and the background, and the story, but for me the 'Schloss'? on the left is fighting with the a/c to be the star of the show.
A bit like the smoke on my Palembang pic.
Jim

Trumper
04-16-2017, 03:40 PM
A lot of work gone into that one Don The 262 stands out better in the black/white version I think . Not sure if you could make the fore part of the colour version stand out more given the nature of the camouflage and the busy town scene below . Really nice painting nevertheless.

I have to agree ,i do prefer the B/W version ,a very busy painting and alot of colour saturation [or so it looks on my monitor ,maybe the photo is showing different to the painting].
For the allies to suddenly see the next generation of aircraft bearing down on them must have been a terrifying sight.

napier
04-16-2017, 06:17 PM
I have rephotographed it with at the camera this is closer to the colours in the painting

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/17-4-17-2w_zpse9fm9glk.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/17-4-17-2w_zpse9fm9glk.jpg.html)

RegisR
04-16-2017, 09:14 PM
Neat piece! I like it! Great mix of the last of the German WWII jet aircraft in action.

NeilF92
04-17-2017, 05:58 AM
That's better Don - colours aren't as strong as appeared in the first post . Good job.

Trumper
04-17-2017, 06:36 AM
I have rephotographed it with at the camera this is closer to the colours in the painting

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/17-4-17-2w_zpse9fm9glk.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/17-4-17-2w_zpse9fm9glk.jpg.html)

:thumbsup: That is 10 x better :)

napier
04-17-2017, 07:03 AM
Thanks for the comment everyone I found that this has been the most difficult painting to photograph I either goy the sky right and the background was totally wrong or vis versa for some reason the yellows came through very strong in the photos to. The subtle tone have still been lost in the photo there is more grey in the sky and the the cathedral does not have so much red in it.

Gray539
04-17-2017, 02:57 PM
A great story Don, and a ton of work in this painting.

Chas McHugh
04-18-2017, 05:53 AM
The trouble with depicting a combat aircraft at low level is that camouflage works, and presents a major hurdle to an artist.

If this painting was my own; I would apply a blue/grey haze over the entire landscape inclusive of cathedral, river, bridge, and town. If this did not make the aircraft 'pop' then you would be forced to use highlights on the aircraft. I would strengthen the haze effect with the far shoreline to promote recession. The far shoreline adds little to the painting and could be bleached out quite a lot with good effect.

It is a pity that this is the case as the colours used in the aircraft are really good. The other niggle I have is that there is no indication of the heat haze of the jet engines on the main ME262. You do not have to make a song and dance to achieve this but you should ensure that anything depicted in the haze is void of any sharp edging or detail. Jet efflux is a challenge for an artist, but done well separates the men from the boys. (I have the same issue with my Sea King)

I know that touching a painting at this stage makes one very nervous - but I would press on whilst considering what you would have done different were you to use it as an oil sketch and reproduce it on a larger scale. If that process was good enough for John Constable - it sure is good enough for us. (The 'Haywain' was done twice; and both still exist)

Ianrevealed
04-21-2017, 10:15 AM
I think it's a great depiction of the scene. Its interesting, action packed, and looks quite authentic. Did they restore that bridge - I ask because I recall seeing something like it several decades ago when travelling in Europe?

I recall a film about the capture of the bridge involving suspiciously post war tank designs and 'The Man from UNCLE' trying to defend it for the 3rd Reich!

Regarding colour, from what I have read the eye re-constructs the colours we see from three data points based in the retina. Digital cameras do something similar. Our paint works from chemical pigments and reflects light, which in run can have a variable spectrum depending on the source and any filters, reflections etc. By the time the computer colour chip and the screen display settings are taken into account its a wonder we see the same things at all!

napier
04-26-2017, 08:23 PM
quite a lot of time doing glazing on this painting after Chas's comments. Still not sure about it.http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/DSC_0008w_zpsluwkxn3v.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/DSC_0008w_zpsluwkxn3v.jpg.html)

gollum
04-26-2017, 10:40 PM
It would have looked much better without the best part of the painting

The best part doesn't match the rest of the painting .... the ME262 clarity throws the whole thing out of balance, but it's not just the clarity .... it looks like a different person did it, but we know the same person did it all ........ :confused:

napier
04-27-2017, 12:51 AM
I did the first one cmyk which for some reason doesn't work here here it is RGB.
http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/longforgan/DSC_0008w_zpszcxrfu3w.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/longforgan/media/DSC_0008w_zpszcxrfu3w.jpg.html)

Chas McHugh
04-27-2017, 04:26 AM
I think that I like this more than you do Don; and I also think that you will have learned significantly from your experience with this painting. The application of colour on the ME262 is perfect for a normal painting, but you are charged with making it 'pop' and therefore still need to make that happen with only highlights left in your armoury. The white nose - curves on the engine intakes, and cockpit canopy are all available for your attention. The sharp trailing edges of the ME262 wings do you no favours as they stop the aircraft dead in the sky. Again this sits within the realms of change. I would blanket glaze the far distance to reduce saturation and induce the greys associated with distance.

For future projects, I would suggest you operate with a check list that includes:

1. Lead in feature to the primary target.
2. Clear ascendency between primary and secondary points of interest.
3. Research and use warm and cool colours appropriately.
4. Place camouflage against a background that it was designed to be hidden from with caution.
5. Exercise Artistic License without rewriting history.

I have included number five because if the small area of grass beneath the ME262 was extended down and right, you could find that it gives you the blur of speed and a lead in feature together. Perhaps not 100% academically correct but an asset to the composition.

Success of an artwork must be measured by numerous factors, one of which is your own artistic development. I foresee you revisiting this subject (or a similar one) in years to come, and smashing it. Otherwise; as I think I have already mentioned to you, use this as a preparatory sketch, (as Russell Smith always does & John Constable did), buy a larger canvas, and go for it now.