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02-25-2017, 10:15 PM
I am excited to be a part of the community and looking forward to learning more and getting to know your art!
Last month a friend of mine from Roswell, NM asked if I would draw one of his hound dogs. I have spent roughly 50 hours on this piece over the past 2 months. This piece is a 24x18 graphite/charcoal on 100lb drawing paper. This is my 2nddog to try drawing. I was hoping I could get some feedback and constructive criticism on the piece.


Thanks for looking!


02-25-2017, 11:25 PM
Hi Rob. Welcome to the animals forum.
Beautiful work! I like your attention to detail.
My suggestions are as follows:
If you darkened the background highlights a little bit, your hound will 'pop' more.
The light stick in the foreground is disconcerting and I'd leave it out.
The foreground ground needs more detail as it has less detail then the background.
Great going!

02-26-2017, 07:13 AM
Thanks Christel! I will give it a try. I was waiting to bring texture and tone of the dead juniper branch in the foreground until the end. I felt like it would help give definition and direction to the foreground and fact that Cedar is sitting on a steep hillside. What about the branch bothers you? If you were to change the branch, what would you do? While the owner and I both like the branch, I don't want to distract from the focal point.

Thanks again for the feedback!


02-26-2017, 10:34 AM
Hi Rob! And welcome. :wave:

Great work here, it's a lovely reference picture and your interpretation is wonderful, I like the fine detail.

Looking at the background, the diagonal branch is the same tone as the dog's head and the dog is a little lost in this area. I would darken the branch so there is a bit more contrast, which would bring the dog forward. I don't mind the foreground branch but at the moment it is a bit of a solid barrier, I would maybe break up the shape a little bit by introducing some finer branches in front of it, similar to those in the background, which would really put the dog in the scene. But whatver you decide to do, I am sure the dog's owner will be delighted.

02-26-2017, 01:01 PM
Thanks Kay! I love the suggestion and will work towards creating more contrast and bringing the dog to the scene by adding limbs/sticks to the foreground. Here is my work from this morning starting to put some of Christel's suggestions into play.

Looking at the reference photo again, I can see the scene get lighter as the eye moves "uphill"(left to right). I am going to add more shading over to the left of the dog, which will hopefully dilute some of the detail of the initial background, make the dog "pop" and create a natural transition in lighting. I think this should help create additional depth and the idea of elevation change.


02-26-2017, 10:28 PM
In your last post you can see the photo has a bit darker contrast that makes the dog stand out and just carrying that over to your work should do the same as Christel advised. Great progress! Nice looking walker. Is it for coon hunting or just a pet, I see all the paraphernalia around his collar which I'm not familiar with. We had a walker/bluetick cross that we used for hunting hare and fox.

02-27-2017, 12:25 AM
I can see a slight darkening and it already looks better. I would go even darker though.
I had a look at what I would do to the branch using gimp and personally I prefer no branch to either a light or a dark branch.

chammi kaiser
02-27-2017, 02:30 AM
Firstly , a very warm welcome to our Forum. Great to have you with us. This is a beautifully conceived work and when finished is going to be stunning. I agree that you need to darken the background. Personally, I rather like the tree branch. There is a sense of place about the tangled branches and the woods and dog tell a story. 'Help, I'm lost in all this tangled place'!!:) Looking forward to the finish. Thanks for sharing.

02-27-2017, 04:15 AM
That looks great Rob... :) looking forward to see it finish :)

02-27-2017, 09:51 PM
Wow! Thank you for the great response and awesome feedback! Jon, Cedar is treeing a mountain lion in the reference picture in Ruidoso, NM.

Christel, thank you again for the feedback. I am working to darken the piece. Thank you for taking the time to give me another visual of your suggestion!

Chami and fedetony,
Thanks for the encouragement. I too, am looking forward to seeing this piece in its final stage. Haha.

Progress...one line at a time.

02-27-2017, 10:47 PM
Looking better already. Great going.

03-02-2017, 02:00 AM
Thank you all for all your comments. I am going to let this piece sit a couple days before sealing it. I really appreciate all the comments and critiques. Can't wait to start my next piece.




03-02-2017, 03:01 AM
Well done, Rob!

chammi kaiser
03-02-2017, 03:21 AM
Terrific work Rob. Do you have a larger photo? Would love to see it.

03-02-2017, 07:56 AM
Let me try this again.


Thank you, Christel and Chammi!

Vivien Maloney
03-02-2017, 05:34 PM
Hi Rob, and a warm welcome to the Forum :wave:
Sorry I'm a little late welcoming you, but I've been on holiday and only catching up now!

Beautiful finished drawing! :thumbsup:

I've been reading all the previous suggestions, and well done for putting them into practice.
When I first looked at your drawing in the beginning of your thread, my eye couldn't separate the hound's head from the background foliage - so I had trouble trying to bring his head into focus. BUT now you've worked on it and it's a beautifully rendered piece. Well done!

Your drawing skill is excellent - just always remember whether, drawing or painting values - light against dark, dark against light, (to separate the values.)
Looking forward to seeing more of your artwork.

03-03-2017, 03:33 AM
Beautiful drawing Rob, thank's for sharing it. By the way is that a lynx sitting under your easel?

03-03-2017, 07:17 AM
Thank you, Vivien! I'm loving all the suggestions and will continue to keep them in mind for my next piece.

Lisa, good eye! A very close cousin of the Lynx- Bob the Bobcat



03-03-2017, 11:25 PM
A great photo and even greater painting! I don't know how I missed seeing this one. Some good tips were given. Is that a real cat below your easel?