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01-02-2017, 04:49 PM
Happy New Year to all! Last year in early November I got a job and that took up a lot of my time. I've been wanting to get back to art - you can't improve if you don't draw/paint - so I am starting a new sketchbook thread for 2017.

Thank you for all of your comments, critiques, and suggestions in 2016 and I hope to be more active in the forum here.

Here are two sketches I did yesterday.

Done with Caran D'ache Classicolor Watercolor pencils in Stillman&Birn Alpha sketchbook

Same sketchbook, this time using Staedler Mars Lumograph 100 pencilshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Jan-2017/226500-img002.jpg

01-05-2017, 10:23 AM
Great to pick this back up again. Keep it up!

01-19-2017, 12:26 PM
A good way to start off the new year.

Joan T
01-22-2017, 08:52 AM
Congrats on the new job! This is a great way to start 2017!

04-01-2017, 09:06 PM
Joan and Kay, thank you. Got busy with the job and Toastmasters meetings, so was visiting Wetcanvas and posting less. Wanted to get back to posting here.

04-01-2017, 09:37 PM
In February my dad e-mailed the e-book "You Can Draw in 30 Days" by Mark Kistler and I started working through it on February 15th. Even though lately I've been feeling that my art is not as good as anyone else's here, I still wanted to post the exercises I'm doing in this book. So, rather than start a new thread, I wanted to post them here.

Day 1 was a pretest: house, plane, and a bagel.


04-01-2017, 09:50 PM
Day 2 was drawing a simple sphere. My attempt is below:


I continued Day 2 and Day 3 on the same page. Here they are:


04-01-2017, 10:09 PM
Day 3, continued.


This was where it started getting a bit more difficult. With the overlapping spheres, the closest sphere to the eye needed to be bigger and it was a bit of a challenge to get right. I think I was able to accomplish it in the end.


C&C are always welcome and appreciated.

04-01-2017, 11:48 PM
Not being satisfied with drawing tennis balls from the book, I wanted to do them from life as well. This wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.


Then, I decided to do another lesson from the book. This was when it started getting more difficult.


C&C are welcome.

04-06-2017, 10:15 AM
Hi there, I definitely see improvement in your tennis ball shapes. Are you happy with your progression? I hope so :)

Deborah Susan Hill
04-06-2017, 02:25 PM
We all had to start at some point and since you are new at this, just realize that many of us have a near lifetime of practice and artwork under our belts, so it is unfair to yourself to compair your work to those of us who have many years of experience! Don't get discouraged I can see that you are making good progress already and if you keep at it you will eventually get more accurate with it! Keep a Journal with those exercises and you will be able to look back over them and note your progress! Keep at it! As always, Deb Hill

Monastic Bat
04-06-2017, 02:45 PM
Sandra, The only way to get better at this is to practice. Don't worry about what others are doing, concentrate on improving your work. I can see that you are improving, keep at it.

Joan T
04-06-2017, 09:01 PM
I'm so glad you continued to do the spheres. There is such a wonderful improvement from when you started to the last one. Like Deborah and Greg said the only thing that will help is practice. Most of us here have been doing art for a long time and have done a lot of practice. Like anything else we continue to need practice. I may do a lot of watercolor painting but I need daily practice drawing to keep my skills up. Keep it up!

04-06-2017, 11:06 PM
Joan, Greg, Deb, eyepaint, thank you all. I am seeing progress with the spheres and with my art in general. It just seems so slow and insignificant in light of others' progress, especially since it's so easy to compare.

Trying not to compare, though, and will definitely keep going. The next lesson after the spheres was cubes and while I have those pages done, I need to scan them. Hoping to post them tonight or tomorrow.

04-28-2017, 11:46 PM
I've been having a busy couple of weeks since my last post, so while I did some more exercises from the book my dad gave me, I was not posting on Wetcanvas.com.

The next day in the book after the spheres was drawing cubes. And foreshortened cubes, not just regular cubes.


This was more difficult than I thought, so I spent the next 10 to 14 days trying this.


04-29-2017, 12:18 AM
Day 4, continued.


So far, all of my tries on foreshortened cubes were giving me normal, regular cubes. It took my explaining to my what foreshortening is and her trying to draw this cube for me to get it. Here is a page with both of our tries.


After this I wanted to do several more sketches of foreshortened cubes on my to really be able to draw them well.


04-29-2017, 12:48 AM
Still trying to get foreshortened cubes, especially foreshortened cubes that are vertical, right.

04-29-2017, 01:02 AM
At this time I was feeling like I was starting to get good at drawing even vertical foreshortened cubes, so I went to the next day in the book. This was hollow cubes.


All of these have been in my Bee Paper Super Deluxe sketchbook and I was using Staedler Mars Lumograph 100 pencils.

04-29-2017, 11:36 AM
Woo hoo look at you go with the boxes and more boxes! Shadows, orientation, sizes, yes. Good job! Keep it up :)

04-30-2017, 07:48 PM
eyepaint, thank you.

05-02-2017, 11:23 PM
This is interesting to watch! It looks like your handling is getting tighter as you progress into the hollow boxes.

Keep going!

05-03-2017, 12:59 AM
D. L., thank you.

From the hollow cubes the book went to the stacking tables. These were multi level cubes and were more fun to draw than single-level cubes.


This last one was interesting to draw. The shading got a bit challenging one this one when going from one page to another.

Then were advanced-level cubes. They were mainly two cubes stacked on top of one another and were really fun to draw.


05-03-2017, 01:03 AM
Day 7 continued.


The bonus challenges for this day were challenges. The first variation was to draw tower of nine cubes, with the sides going inward on each cube. This took me a few tries to get right.

05-03-2017, 01:09 AM
Variation two was a combination of multi-level cubes, ramps, doors and round windows. It looked simple at first in the book. It took me more than several attempts to get this.


On this one I had two lines that were not meeting where they should. So, I gave this another try.


Better, but I still had one page left in my Bee Aquabee Super Deluxe Sketchbook (that I've been using for all of the exercises in the You Can Draw in 30 Days book) and as I did not want to start Day 8 in this sketchbook, I did another drawing on variation two in this sketchbook.


C&C are welcome and appreciated.

Joan T
05-04-2017, 03:03 PM
Good job on these practice sketches. You did well with the combinations of the elements.

05-05-2017, 01:04 AM
Joan, thank you.

05-05-2017, 01:22 AM
Super studies! Super work! :)

05-06-2017, 12:03 AM
eyepaint, thank you.

05-06-2017, 12:06 AM
After day 7 in the You Can Draw in 30 Days book, I started a new sketchbook that I will be using for the rest of the You Can Draw in 30 Days book. This sketchbook is the 8.5x5.5 Stillman and Birn Alpha and I am still using Staedler Mars Lumograph 100 pencils in it.

Day 8 was on drawing cool koalas. This felt fun after six to seven days of drawing cubes and spheres, though I progressed quite a bit with the cubes and spheres and they will be helpful in the future.


I'm currently working through the bonus challenge for Day 8.

C&C are welcome.

Joan T
05-12-2017, 08:26 PM
Cute koalas!

05-14-2017, 10:04 PM
Thank you Joan. The bonus challenge for day 8 was fun to do.


Part of this bonus challenge was to draw a koala from nature (using photo reference if needed). With the photo I found via Google Image search I was not sure if it was under copyright (since it appeared in the Sunshine Coast Daily's "Vaccine for randy koalas not enough to save them"), I am not uploading that drawing. Australians, if you can find this article and can tell me that the photo reference is not under copyright, I could upload my drawing.

Day 9 was drawing a rose and this day had involved warm-up.


05-14-2017, 10:53 PM
Day 10 was back to geometrical shapes with cylinders. I found that the time I spent trying to get foreshortened cubes right was helpful in drawing cubes.

Day 10 bonus challenge was to draw nine foreshortened cylinders (cans, mugs, cups). I did three, but it was still fun.


I had the mugs on the table while I sat on the armchair and could really see the foreshortened effect.

Apologies again for the sideways images. They're right side up on my computer, but they're uploading sideways.

05-15-2017, 01:22 AM
Just realized that the pages with the cylinders were originally uploaded before I did any blended shading. Here they are with the blended shading done.


C&C are welcome.

05-15-2017, 10:29 AM
So cool!!

Vivien Maloney
05-15-2017, 06:38 PM
I've turned them for you Sandra.

05-15-2017, 07:09 PM
eyepaint, thank you. It is cool how with correct proportions and correct shading they look almost more interesting than if they had color in them.

Thank you Vivien.

All of these recent sketches are definitely giving me ideas on what media to try next, how graphite is working for me, sketchbooks. Stillman and Birn Alpha has been a joy to work in, but part of me is feeling bad for using the good paper for practice sketches. So I'm thinking of going to Michael's tonight to pick up Strathmore 400 Series Drawing pad or journal and leaving the Stillman and Birn Alpha sketchbook until I get through the You Can Draw in 30 Days book and start doing real sketches.

Joan T
05-21-2017, 08:49 AM
Nice practice pages. I smiled that you are thinking of saving the Stillman & Birn for "real" sketches. I use different kinds of paper depending on what my reason is for sketching and then find myself with something on lousy paper that I would have loved to have on "good" paper. lol It works both ways.

05-21-2017, 10:41 AM
Nice practice pages. I smiled that you are thinking of saving the Stillman & Birn for "real" sketches. I use different kinds of paper depending on what my reason is for sketching and then find myself with something on lousy paper that I would have loved to have on "good" paper. lol It works both ways.
Yes, what Joan said. For practice sketches on the good paper you could embellish with colour or paint. I think it's good to learn how to sketch on the good paper so when you later want to do it for real you know how it will respond (i.e., more grippy or bumpy, wear down your pencil lead faster, or so on).

05-25-2017, 08:18 PM
Joan and eyepaint, thank you.

It felt a bit stingy to be using the good Stillman and Birn Alpha paper for drawing exercises and I was drawing smaller, so that I wouldn't use up an entire page on one exercises. With the Strathmore 400 Series Drawing paper it feels less wasteful to devote an entire page on one exercise, which I think lets me be freer in my drawings. I loved the Stillman and Birn Alpha sketchbook and will definitely return to it. I can see myself sticking with that sketchbook if I decide to use dry media in my sketchbooks.

05-27-2017, 06:25 AM
I am really enjoying your progress :-)

05-29-2017, 02:02 PM
After the previous couple of days of drawing koalas, cylinders, and roses, day 12 was about constructing with cubes.


This took a couple of tries to get right, mainly because with the larger size of the paper led to me trying to get larger and getting the proportions wrong at first.

05-29-2017, 02:29 PM
After getting the single house right, I wanted to draw it again. This time I added shading.


As with the cubes and the cylinders, the following day was about advanced-level cubes. I found that after I had gotten the proportions right on normal houses, the advanced-level houses were easier.


This page includes the bonus challenge for day 12, drawing a mailbox. I'm not entirely happy with it turned out, but the example in the book was a student's drawing so I didn't have a clear idea/image of how it looks with correct proportions. Back to advanced-level houses:


05-29-2017, 02:38 PM
The second part of the bonus challenge for the advanced-level houses was really interesting. It was drawing from the video of Mark Kistler drawing the houses on his paper and me drawing the same houses in my sketchbook as he's drawing his.

It took a lot of pausing for me to keep up with him, but I liked how it turned out.


Then, after two days of drawing houses, it was all about drawing organic curves. The organic curves were involved in drawing a lily.


05-29-2017, 02:44 PM
Then Mark Kistler had us draw a bouquet of lilies.


Since the focus on the lilies was on S-shaped curves and tapering bottom of the flower, I'm satisfied with how it came out. This is definitely one that I want to try in color in another media.

C&C are welcome.

Joan T
06-05-2017, 01:57 PM
Looks like you could sketch a village now. lol Nice curve shapes!!

06-16-2017, 01:12 AM
Joan, thank you. I find that when I'm able to get the proportions right and the shading to be smooth, I really enjoy graphite so far (even ten years ago I did not think I say this about graphite). Smudging in spiral-bound sketchbooks is getting to me a bit, which I think is not going to be an issue when I start using my Stillman and Birn Alpha sketchbook.

Day 15 is the Contour Tubes and it is taking me days to draw them right. I am hoping to finish the contour tubes tomorrow and upload them this weekend.

06-16-2017, 08:28 PM
I like the shading on the advanced-level houses :)

06-21-2017, 12:34 AM
Day 15 was the Contour Tubes.


This was something that took me a few tries to get right.

This drawing had me thinking about the sizes and format of sketchbook I will be using after I finish the book "You Can Draw in 30 Days" and my Stillman & Birn Alpha sketchbook. So far my thinking is that if I am still using graphite at that point, I will be using a hardbound sketchbook.

Here I am getting better proportions with the tubes. Shading is a bit off, so I gave it a few more tries.

06-21-2017, 12:41 AM
A better attempt at contour tubes.

This was where contour tubes started becoming fun and I started doing the bonus challenge for Day 15, which was drawing two Michelin kids (inspired by the Michelin Man tire guy).

Since this day is getting a bit longer, I am uploading my latest try with the bonus challenge.


I enjoyed drawing Michelin kids. Even though the beginning drawings of contour tubes were discouraging, when bonus challenges are enjoyable and I can get them right, it helps me to keep going.

Your comments and suggestions are encouraging as well. C&C are welcome and appreciated.

06-24-2017, 09:22 PM
The bonus challenge for the contour tubes was neat to do. It is called the whoosh cloud.


This took a few tries to get it right. I'm liking how I was able to draw this.

06-26-2017, 01:48 AM
Nice sketches.

06-26-2017, 07:09 PM
Thank you provenceaquarelle.

06-26-2017, 07:12 PM
The main subject for day 16 was drawing the wave.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jun-2017/226500-img072.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jun-2017/226500-img073.jpg

C&C are welcome and appreciated.

06-26-2017, 07:22 PM
The bonus challenge for the contour tubes was neat to do. It is called the whoosh cloud.


This took a few tries to get it right. I'm liking how I was able to draw this.

Quoting this post in my reply to say that after I uploaded the wave sketches I realized this was the bonus challenge for the wave.

06-26-2017, 08:38 PM
I can see your improvement in every sketch, that's great!

06-30-2017, 02:24 AM
otherworlder, thank you.

07-01-2017, 12:01 AM
Day 17 was called Rippling Flags. This was a lot of fun.


The bonus challenge for this day was drawing a long rippling flag.


This bonus challenge was one that I decided to leave an entire page for (I drew this on May 26th, the same day I went to a meetup with the Monterey Drawing and Painting Group). This page was the last page in my Strathmore Recycled Drawing pad.

Next sketchbook that I started is an 8.5x11 Robert Bateman Recyled Sketchbook.

07-03-2017, 01:15 AM
Day 17, The Scroll, is the first day from the You Can Draw in 30 Days book in the Robert Bateman Recycled Sketchbook. I have enjoyed drawing the scrolls.


The little sketch at the bottom of the page is the first bonus challenge for the scroll. Here is the second bonus challenge:


I think I am getting better with the lines and how the scrolls look, but I want to do another sketch of the second bonus challenge with the scroll.

07-03-2017, 04:02 AM
You are constant in your working skills. Congratulations, I wish I had that.

Anyhow, you are improving, I can see that.

Well done.

07-03-2017, 11:29 AM
Yay! Swoops and swirls and curls!

07-04-2017, 12:10 AM
provenceaquarelle and eyepaint, thank you both.

07-04-2017, 02:55 AM
You are welcome, Sandra.

07-04-2017, 07:14 AM
Wonderful to see your work and progress, Sandra! :) As I use mainly found materials and collage them with text and watercolour etc, it's great to see things from the start up! Thanks for letting us share your work and experiments.


07-06-2017, 11:26 PM
Belle, thank you. I'm definitely planning on sharing my work and experiments, even when my sketches are not that good (as you've probably seen if you read this entire thread).

07-06-2017, 11:30 PM
I did a few more drawings of the second bonus challenge for the scroll.


I am finding that when I have my pencils needle sharp (or almost needle sharp), it helps the lines be darker and HB pencil show up better.

These were done with HB and 2B Staedler Mars Lumograph 100 pencils in my Robert Bateman sketchbook.

07-07-2017, 03:29 AM
You are so disciplined! I envy that. Wello done.

I agree with you in what needle sharp pencils is concerned. I use The Kum Masterpiece sharpener, which makes it really needle sharp.
It helps me to control the pression I use, too. I tend to really hard press, when writing and drawing.

Edit - Belle, you should open a thread wih your collage art journal, and share all that with us.:wink2:

07-08-2017, 11:12 PM
Maria, thank you. I think with the pencils I need to have them needle sharp for this paper as it is so smooth. On Strathmore Recycled Drawing paper it is not needed since it is so textured.

07-27-2017, 01:43 AM
Day 19 was devoted to pyramids. These turned out to be a lot of fun.


Then, on day 20 it was back to drawing organic shapes. This time it was volcanoes, craters, and a cup of coffee.


The cup was frustrating me so it took me a while to get the proportions right for how it looked in the book. That page isn't quite finished yet, so it'll be uploaded in the next couple of days.

07-27-2017, 02:35 AM
Nice exercises.

I like the arched pyramides. They must have been fun to draw.

Ahh, proportions: I have trouble with it. Not an evidence.:rolleyes:

07-29-2017, 12:08 PM
Oh those ellipsis are tricksy :)

07-30-2017, 01:44 AM
Maria and eyepaint, thank you both. Yeah they were tricky, but once I understood that Mark Kistler wanted the cups to have the width and height about the same it was easier. I'm working on the bonus challenge today and it is a lot of fun.

08-03-2017, 01:52 AM
Here is probably my best attempt at the cup of coffee from Day 20.


The bonus challenge for this day was to draw a combination of volcanoes and craters. I started by following the general guide of Mark Kistler's volcanoes and craters sketch and then added some of my own volcanoes and craters.

08-03-2017, 04:04 AM
I like your volcanoes and craters!

The coffee cup looks more proportionate than the others.:thumbsup:

Scene Chaser
08-03-2017, 06:16 AM
Nice work on your lessons, Sandra. Love the nice lines of the scroll.

Munin Raven
08-05-2017, 01:42 PM
Some very nice dedication going on here. Lovely to see. Keep it up. :thumbsup:

08-07-2017, 04:11 PM
Bill and Munin, thank you both. At times it's definitely dedication since some lessons take so long that by the time I get something right I'm getting tired of that same lesson.

Today I looked at the earlier lessons I did in my Stillman and Birn Alpha sketchbook and encountered more smudginess that I expected to in a hardbound sketchbook that has been sitting closed for the past 2 months and three weeks.

08-22-2017, 02:17 AM
The first half of last week we were at Pinecrest Lake. While there I finished day 23 lesson. This was about drawing trees.


They looked simple, but were difficult to get right. The main parts I was having difficulty with were the roots and the leaves.


This last page includes a sketch of this lesson that my dad did. As with the cubes, it helped me to see the right approach to getting the proportions and the forms right.


Part of this page has a sketch that I did during our trip. Since this is my practice sketchbook thread, I was thinking of possibly putting my sketches from the trip in another thread that I'd probably be starting after I finish this book.

Or do you all think that it would be better if I kept all of my sketches in this thread?

C&C are welcome and appreciated.

08-22-2017, 03:42 AM
Keep on, Sandra.

Cloud shaped tree trimming is very fashionable.;)

I think you should keep all in this thread. We can follow your evolution.

08-24-2017, 02:55 AM
Maria, thank you.

08-24-2017, 03:56 AM
You are welcome, Sandra

08-24-2017, 09:44 AM
Wonderful practice :)

08-28-2017, 02:34 PM
eyepaint, thank you. I'm working on day 22 and it feels like after two attempts I've done I need to reorient myself to get the drawing of a room to be right.

09-12-2017, 01:59 AM
Day 22 is about drawing a room in one-point perspective. I don't feel I am getting close to getting it right, so I'm posting the better attempts so far.


Joan T
09-12-2017, 05:25 PM
Sandra, I haven't had time to stop by in quite a while but I'm happy to see you are continuing your sketching. Great job on the cylinders and scrolls!

09-15-2017, 12:35 AM
Joan, thank you.

09-15-2017, 04:57 AM
Stick to it, Sandra!:thumbsup:

Munin Raven
09-16-2017, 07:24 AM
It's good to see some perspective exercises. Keep going. :thumbsup:

Scene Chaser
09-16-2017, 01:47 PM
They look pretty good to me, Sandra.

09-21-2017, 02:16 AM
Maria, Murin, and Bill, thank you all.

I am getting satisfied with these sketches once I get the back wall right. I want to give the room drawings one more try, knowing that spending more time on perspective now will help in my later sketches.

Monastic Bat
09-21-2017, 09:23 AM
Sandra, You have made great progress since Jan. Keep at it and keep them coming.:clap::clap::clap:

10-03-2017, 01:44 AM
Greg, thank you.

This past weekend I decided to give day 20 a couple more tries.


I could tell I was getting closer with this one. I really wanted to get the stairs right, so I did another sketch.


10-04-2017, 03:40 AM
Ah, yes, perspective...! That looks challenging. I might try that!!! :)

10-05-2017, 02:10 AM
Raindrop, thank you. One-point perspective was challenging for me (day 22 took me several weeks to do). Mark Kistler's book You Can Draw in 30 Days that I'm using for this is helpful.

10-18-2017, 10:05 PM
I finished the main part of Day 23, which was drawing a city in one-point perspective at the beginning of last week. I haven't gotten around to posting it earlier.


I'm hoping I'll have time to post the bonus challenge tonight.

Joan T
10-23-2017, 05:03 PM
Nice perspective practice!

10-24-2017, 01:28 AM
Thank you Joan. I started the bonus challenge for day 23 a few days ago, but wasn't satisfied with how it was turning out. So I went back to the main part of day 23 drawings and did it one more time. I want to give the bonus challenge for day 23 another try tomorrow.

10-24-2017, 04:17 AM
Keep on, Sandra!:thumbsup:

11-02-2017, 01:20 AM
Maria, thank you. Today I finished another attempt at the day 23 bonus challenge that I started on Sunday. This bonus challenge was basically drawing another city street in one-point perspective while adding doors, windows, and other details to the drawing.


11-02-2017, 04:21 AM
You are getting the hang of it.

I admire your constance.

Keep on!:thumbsup:

11-04-2017, 10:12 PM
Thank you Maria. Today I began day 24 drawing, a tower in two-point perspective and I'm having fun with it. Still haven't gotten it right, so I'll keep trying it.

Joan T
11-05-2017, 06:08 PM
I admire your dedication to practicing perspective!

11-14-2017, 02:42 AM
Joan, thank you. This weekend I tried day 24 drawing, a tower in two-point perspective a few more times. I almost had it yesterday and gave it one more try today, but it was off on one side. I'll give another try or two though.

11-14-2017, 10:40 AM
You are getting the hang of it.

I admire your constance.

Keep on!:thumbsup:


01-02-2018, 06:11 PM
EP, thank you.

Happy New Year to you all!!! in 2017 I still kept trying every so often to get the tower right. I was able to get it right yesterday.


Next for me is the bonus challenge for this day.

01-02-2018, 07:32 PM
After the struggles with the tower in the main portion of day 24, the bonus challenge was fairly easy.


01-03-2018, 03:32 PM
Compared to your first sketch in this thread, the progress is astounding! Keep at it. :)

Joan T
01-04-2018, 08:55 PM
These are getting better and better!!!

01-10-2018, 08:15 PM
otherworlder and Joan, thank you both.

01-11-2018, 09:56 AM
Compared to your first sketch in this thread, the progress is astounding! Keep at it. :)


01-11-2018, 12:22 PM
Sandra, you will be showing us some buildings, in no time.
Way to go!:)

01-11-2018, 05:38 PM
Beautiful perspective studies, Sandra. Every one of them is solid and clean, the values are strong, perspective accurate. You could do buildings in that style and they'll be gorgeous. Give it a go next time you're outside, you're ready!

02-04-2018, 01:27 AM
EP, Maria, and Robert, thank you all. I'm actually working on drawing a castle in two-point perspective right now, hoping to finish it tomorrow (the first attempt went well, but I felt I could draw it better and then got busy at the end of January before giving it another try today).

Robert, definitely with the nicer weather I've been thinking about drawing outside.

02-07-2018, 02:12 AM
A few days ago I gave the castle drawing from day 25 another try (had two attempts at it before) and felt satisfied with it.


The bonus challenge for day 25 was to pin piece of paper to a backing board and then using rubber ban and pencil draw the guide lines for the different parts of the castle. I felt that it is better to develop hand steadiness by practicing drawing so I am moving to day 26.

02-07-2018, 09:55 AM
Hi.. Great watching your progression.. Awesome

Suggestion tho.. If your using up lots of Decent sketchbook paper..

Why not just use printer paper, or cheap pads of some sort for practise then say once a week do something in your good sketchbook one a week or once a month etc etc..

Just a thought you could save a few bucks on good scketchbooks.


02-07-2018, 11:18 PM
Johnnie, thank you. It might seem like I'm using up a lot of good sketchbook, but I'm really. This entire thread is a little over a year and one month old and the Stillman and Birn Alpha I started this thread with barely has ten sheets filled. The Robert Bateman sketchbook I'm using now was started in June 2017 and I still have sixteen sheets left in it. I think these two sketchbooks will take until the end of this summer to finish. Other than these sketchbooks the only other one I used was a cheap Strathmore 24 sheet Recycled Drawing pad.

About printer paper ... I still have memories of using good media on that and barely being able to get more than a couple of layers on. That's such an exercise for frustration that even when we have our neighbor's daughter (who's eight years old) over and we draw or paint I let her use good paper even though she draws and paints like a regular grade school kid.

02-07-2018, 11:25 PM
Castle going well, Id say :)

02-12-2018, 04:18 AM
Well done, Sandra. Enjoying your progression and contant work.

Way to go:thumbsup:

03-12-2018, 11:50 PM
evebart and Maria, thank you both. Going to give the city in two-point perspective one more try tonight or tomorrow and then will be looking to move on.

Joan T
03-15-2018, 05:35 PM
The perspective on the castle came out great!

03-15-2018, 10:36 PM
Wowsers awesome work!!!

03-19-2018, 02:36 AM
Joan and JJ, thank you. Yesterday I finished the Day 26 drawing (city in two-point perspective) and started on Day 27 (lettering in two-point perspective), which I did a bit more on today.


Every so often I notice the grittiness or similar quality in the Staedler Mars Lumograph 100 HB pencil, which is visible as darker, grittier shading. Not a fan of this, but at the same time my current thought is after I finish the You Can Draw in 30 Days book to use pencils to get the rough outline of the sketch until I feel comfortable not using a pencil.


The lettering definitely looks like fun. I'm going to give it another try or two as I feel I can draw the lettering better.

03-19-2018, 03:34 AM
Your 30 day challenge is coming along nicely, might have to dig up my old learning to draw sketchbooks. . . They would make just about anyone feel better about their skill in drawing. It always makes me chuckle when people say I am talented now days, if only they knew just how bad I really was when I started.

The true talent is perseverance, keep rocking those studies regularly and one day you will look back and be surprised by just how far you made it. After finishing your 30 day challenge I strongly suggest working through Successful Drawing by Andrew Loomis. I have been working through it again, and it is VERY dense material, but I must say that it allows you to draw anything you can imagine, which is pretty neat.

03-20-2018, 01:49 AM
Delo, thank you. I found Successful Drawing by Andrew Loomis on Google and it does sound like a good next step after the You Can Draw in 30 Days book. It's certainly something to consider.

Joan T
04-05-2018, 08:54 PM
You are really doing well with these!

04-10-2018, 09:56 PM
Thank you Joan.

Munin Raven
04-17-2018, 02:48 PM
So cool to see you are still exploring perspective. There are some very glaring errors present in a few of the newer ones, but the latest post with the blocks and the "hi" are really great, and a joy to see that kind of progress! :thumbsup:

I recently replied to another thread on the subject of progression not being a nice simple arc... that "learning curve" thing never being a curve in real terms (it's usually spikes followed by somewhat flat areas). I see this in effect right here. The jump in your work is so great with the last two images compared to the previous. Something has most certainly clicked into place for you. I can see it!

I must raise a glass in salute. You are working much harder than me. It's a real joy to see progress like that. I hope you keep it up. :thumbsup: :heart:

04-19-2018, 03:38 AM
Munin, thank you. It's definitely been a challenge at times. The author of this book I'm using for these exercises is Mark Kistler, who has more of a cartoon/animation style, so that may it. In the last few days I started on drawing the human face and in the beginning it's a bit of an exercise in frustration.

The feeling I have with my artwork is that after I finish this book (hopefully in the next week or two) to stick with monochrome sketches, so will definitely keep on practicing perspective.

05-01-2018, 08:40 AM
You keep building up your skills, steadly and surely. I don't have your discipline, or patience.


05-02-2018, 10:25 AM
Cool perspective sketches, they are looking very good now.

05-05-2018, 01:43 AM
otherworlder, thank you. Day 28 was drawing the human face, with the actual drawing the bonus challenge part of it and the "lesson" part tracing Leonardo da Vinci's face of the Madonna. I'll try to post my try from the bonus challenge tomorrow.

05-07-2018, 02:13 AM
Today I finished up day 28 bonus challenge by putting the finishing touches on it and adding shading. This was a challenge and I know it's not perfect. I feel it's close enough where I can call this done, knowing that I'll find videos on YouTube and other books to continue practicing drawing faces.


05-07-2018, 06:46 AM
Human beings are among the hardest of all things to draw properly, it's really tough. They are very rewarding to draw and certain parts of them are easier in isolation often.

Good effort and you are right about there being a lot of resources for learning portraiture. Here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=335) is another link for you to consider in your artistic journey. A few years ago I actually started working through it again and posting my studies, didn't get around to finishing it though life got in the way. I could definitely go back and finish it up, very good study stuff and a wonderful class.

Munin Raven
05-07-2018, 02:46 PM
Really great to see you sticking to it. May I suggest considering drawing from life? Particularly with regards to the human figure and portraiture. At the very least you could set up a mirror and do some self studying. You can learn an awful lot from books, but it may seriously stunt your growth in the long run if that is your only means of consumption. There really is only one way to understand three dimensional form in it's objective sense.

Hope you keep going with your journey. It's so good to see. :thumbsup:

07-06-2018, 01:53 AM
Delo and Munin Raven, thank you both. Apologies for what must have seemed like disapperance from this thread and forum. I've been able to part of the ATC All About Me trade over in the Miniature forum and life in general took me a bit from the forums as well.

Delo, at one point I realized that noses were the hardest for me and did a few drawings of just the nose. Here they are:


Then over the last week I tried drawing the human face again.


I feel like at this point I need to move on to the next day in this book and continue returning to drawing the face and the human figure as I go further in my drawing journey.

Joan T
07-06-2018, 08:46 PM
Sandra it is nice to see that you have been working on some art in addition to what you have here. Faces are hard. I have a lot of trouble with the proportions and often find myself changing things and usually shortening the nose. lol

07-06-2018, 09:13 PM
Joan, thank you.

08-24-2018, 11:55 PM
I spent July working through part of the Watermedia challenge and trying to get further in the You Can Draw in 30 Days book. day 29 was about drawing the eye. Here are my attempts at it:


Today I finished the first attempt at drawing the human hand. I'll keep at it.

Joan T
09-23-2018, 09:33 PM
I love that you are practicing eyes! Nice!!

09-30-2018, 12:38 AM
Thank you Joan. Eyes were definitely one of my favorite things to draw in this book.

Day 30 was all about drawing hands. My first try was so-so, then when I started paying more attention to proportions, my drawings got better.


The bottom drawing on this page was the first part of the bonus challenge, which was to draw my hand in three different positions. Here are the other two drawings of the bonus challenge:


The You Can Draw in 30 Days book by Mark Kistler has definitely been a journey. I started this book in February 2017 and just now finished it. When I look at my earlier drawings, I can see a clear difference. I know with drawings hands there's more to practice, but I think that I'm just about ready to move on. I'll keep on sketching and would like to start my next sketching thread tomorrow.

09-30-2018, 02:31 AM
Nice work! It's good to see someone else's learning journey shared here.

I've been teaching myself from books and online tutorials for a couple of years and it can sometimes feel a bit lonely! There's so much to learn. I haven't really attempted people yet. Keep up the good work!

09-30-2018, 03:20 PM
Claudia, thank you. Until I started that book, I had few attempts at drawing people's faces and even those attempts haven't been successful. At the beginning stages of one's journey there's a lot to learn, but I think even our more experienced members will agree that there's always something new to learn or to improve in even with experience.

Yesterday I started a sketchbook that will be part of my next thread and will have at least one page finished today.

Joan T
10-02-2018, 08:39 PM
Good for you, Sandra. Some hand positions are so hard to draw because of the forshortening. Glad to see you worked on all kinds of positions.

10-03-2018, 02:37 AM
Thank you Joan. Working on all kinds of positions was in part because the bonus challenge was to draw hand in three different positions.