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11-30-2016, 11:59 PM
I wish all the best for you and your family wherever you may be.

12-01-2016, 12:09 AM
Some photos from the RIL as inspiration. I'm looking forward to your participation.
Oil lamp by brianvds
Deer from Stalksthedawn
Poinsettia and Santa from Lisilk
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Dec-2016/1256189-poinpink_lisilk_ril.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Dec-2016/1256189-SantaOldFashioned_lisilk_ril.jpg
Grapes and pears from Mprince
Trumpet by Mbecket
Baby on beach by Daisygirl

12-01-2016, 08:19 AM
Nice photos Christel, I will participate :)

12-01-2016, 10:52 PM
Great! Looking forward to seeing your painting!

12-05-2016, 12:08 PM
Santa in mini 4x5. The face is with cp. Also posted in the mini forum

12-05-2016, 04:39 PM
I really like the eyes. The hand seem out of proportion but that may be the reference.
The velvet texture of the red coat is very fine!

12-05-2016, 11:20 PM
Thanks Ratchet

12-08-2016, 01:14 PM
Very good Santa Christel!

I am currently working on the Grapes and Pears and it's proving to be quite a challenge :P The grapes especially, since they are so small, are hard to do with the oil pastels. I am using tortillons to help me but could you tell me if there would be a better tool that could do the job?


12-08-2016, 01:58 PM
I've finished the grapes and can help you there. I started off with my lighter colors doing each grape on it's own from the start. I worked in thin layers. Then I added darker values like green and brown very lightly working in with the tortillion as I went. The blacker areas I used my Dermatograph and my cp carefully building up values. If I go too dark, I just scratch back into the lighter values. The highlights are a bit of white ops lightly blended in .
The bowl has a layer of white worked into the paper. I then spread the blue with my fingers or stump lightly. I then scratched back with a blade. I did have to go over it again with dark blue though.
Hope this helps you.

12-08-2016, 08:29 PM
Very nice work especially on the geometric design around the bowl.

Wasn't this photo the subject of a tutorial? I seem to remember the tutorial but not who posted it or where.

Thanks for the information about detailing. If the design is scratch back, nice work.
Kenneth Leslie suggests putting heavy layers of a color on a piece of scratch paper, then using tracing paper to pick up the design. The tracing paper is laid over the piece to be colored and the color is transferred the same as carbon paper. I haven't tried it but it is interesting. It is a method of making carbon paper from Oil Pastels to transfer small designs. I checked the book out of the library. It is worth reading.

12-08-2016, 11:23 PM
Thanks Ratchet. An interesting approach to detailing. I'l try it out soon.
Here is the wip by Russel McKenzie of the grapes and pears

12-09-2016, 12:41 AM
There is another tutorial around. I seem to remember it was a woman. She used Painter to do the sketch, which I remember because my Painter isn't that clever.

IT was several pages long. She did not do the design on the bowl. She decided against it at the last moment.

Vivian might know. People followed along and did the bowl with the Tutor. I will see if I can find it.

12-09-2016, 12:45 AM

I found it. IT is in the ClassRoom, Titled Green Grapes and Yellow Pears


12-09-2016, 03:44 AM
Thanks Ratchet! A great thread too!

12-09-2016, 12:42 PM
Wow thanks for the info!

And Christel, really well done your fruits painting! I'll work on mine more this weekend :)

12-10-2016, 10:23 AM
Well here is my attempt! With Pentel and Mungyo op on Canson Mi-Teintes paper. I really had a lot of fun doing it actually :) It felt a bit like sculpting. Let me know what you think.


12-10-2016, 12:29 PM
Virginie, well done. I especially like the pears. You did well with the pattern on the bowl.
For texture on the pears you could lightly go over with the flatter side of a pastel leaving the marks as is to give the impression of roughness.
I also use Pentel and have found using solvents like mineral turps indispensable for larger areas.
For slightly darker shading you can even use a graphite pencil very lightly and blend into the ops
Great going and glad you're enjoying it.

12-16-2016, 11:23 PM
My version of the poinsettia A4

12-17-2016, 11:30 AM

I really like the bright blending of colors. Great Job!

12-17-2016, 11:31 AM

Lovely shading on the leaves.

12-18-2016, 11:14 PM
Thanks Ratchet!

12-22-2016, 03:10 PM
Question for anyone: is there a formula for relating the size of a picture with the ideal viewing distance? I haven't been able to find anything. obviously a larger picture would be observed from a greater distance and a smaller one from closer range.


12-22-2016, 05:47 PM
There is a book "The Theory of Perspective" By G Storey, free on Gutenberg that has a few pages about the viewing distance, height above the viewer and also how Michelangelo did the figures on curved surfaces.

It wasn't something that interested me particularly so I never studied it carefully but the book is worth reading. There are free copies available from Gutenberg.Org

12-22-2016, 05:50 PM

WOW, I like that sand.
Did you do the patterns on the shirt using Kenneth Leslie's transfer technique?
Outstanding piece of art!

12-22-2016, 11:41 PM
Ratchet - thanks. No I just used the sharper end of the pastel for the pattern.
Ed - look under composition rules where the distance fades into blue and the closer objects are detailed. Using perspective can be a lot of fun.

12-23-2016, 10:00 AM
Grapes and Pears, Neopastels on Uart 400 , 16" x 13"


12-23-2016, 10:52 PM
Thank you for posting your gorgeous painting, Russel!

12-25-2016, 12:49 AM
Russel, this is awesome piece!

Virginie, looks great, great selection of colors!

Christel, like you poinsettia. You are so good in depicting flowers!

12-28-2016, 06:15 PM

Beautiful, absolutely amazing!

12-31-2016, 05:42 PM
Beautiful work Russell, your ability to depict realism with oil pastels always astounds. Stunning - congratulations.

Wonderful paintings Christel, can't believe how many you were able to get done. The little child on the beach is precious, awesome work on the clothing details and fabric folds. Love the poinsettia, nice red petal definition they are lively with a nice combination of reds used. You worked the light and shadows giving the petals substance.

Nice work Virginie - beautiful vibrancy to the pears. Nice work on the bowl and pattern detailing.

12-31-2016, 11:26 PM
Thank you for your participation throughout the year. I'm looking forward to 'seeing' you in 2017!