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tbezesky
10-24-2003, 03:38 PM
MY IMAGE(S):
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/upload_spool/10-24-2003/11381_lilypd1b.jpg


GENERAL INFORMATION:
Title: Lily Pads
Year Created: 2003
Medium: Oil Bar
Surface: Canvas
Dimension: 16x12
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!

MY COMMENTS:
This is a quick sketch of lily pads with Shiva Paintstiks

MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Just General

gnu
10-24-2003, 04:02 PM
I'm doing lillies too..
this is just lovely Tracey..the lighting and the colours..how about adding a bud or two?
I love it though...

tbezesky
10-24-2003, 04:08 PM
I have done a few other lily pad paintings in the past, but never a little one like this.
Thanks, I will look forward to seeing yours if you post.

Paintonbrush
10-24-2003, 06:39 PM
Ive thought lately about oil bar, if it would be fun., you make it look wildly fun! loveley pad :D

tbezesky
10-24-2003, 11:33 PM
Thanks, I like them because you get to scribble!
Since you paint loosely you might enjoy them too!
As you know I don't use them all the time.

Here's what I have learned about them if you want to know:
I tried 3 colors of 3 brands, W&N Oil bars, Shiva paintstix, and R&F Pigment Sticks

I like the R&F and the Shiva, they each have different look.

The kind I used here is the Shivas dry in 24 hrs, and are by far the cheapest.
Easier to control, and layer.
Oil Bars are about the same but they cost more.

R&F Pigments sticks:
They are by far the creamiest, as slippery as oils,
almost to a fault, because its harder to control.
I am still adjusting to them.
Also the messiest.
They dry the same speed as thick oils.
The color is extraordinarily brilliant, high pigment conscentration.

After experimenting with them I recommend puting a thin layer turp on first or using an underpainting. I put a wet oil base coat on everything to conserve on the sticks. They blend better that way too.

artinoils
10-25-2003, 10:43 AM
Tracy, thanks for the info on the oil bars and methods. Curious about the difference between them and oil pastels. Are they softer and then do they dry like oil paints?
Nice lily pond. Like the color of the water with the reflected sky.

Rieko
10-25-2003, 05:23 PM
I like the shiny lily pads and the scribbles. The water and the reflection are wonderful, too. You must have fun with oil bars and it shows.

Mikey
10-25-2003, 05:33 PM
A quick sketch!! I can't wait to see the rest.

Mikey

tbezesky
10-26-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by artinoils
Tracy, thanks for the info on the oil bars and methods. Curious about the difference between them and oil pastels. Are they softer and then do they dry like oil paints?
Nice lily pond. Like the color of the water with the reflected sky.

Oil Sticks dry like oils.
They have a much wetter creamer feel than oil pastels.
Oils sticks show strokes better than oil pastels.
They are of course messyer and smellyer than oil pastels.
For the most part it's like painting without brushes.
Painting with lipstick!
The creamiest is R&Fs and the rest are firmer.
The firmer ones are easier to control, but it just depends on what look you like.

To try them out I would recommend getting R&fs and Shivas, 2 or 3 of each with one of the colors being cad yell. if you get only tranparent colors to test results might not be as good. Shiva because they are the cheapest. If you end up liking firmer ones then it may be adviceable to try the others too.

They can be mixed with oils, you can put oils sticks on top of oils but not in reverse.

Thanks Rieko, I do enjoy working with them.

tbezesky
10-26-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Mikey
A quick sketch!! I can't wait to see the rest.

Mikey

I mean that it's an oil sketch thats finished except for some minor adjustments, but I will probably do a bigger one at some point with oil sticks.

jerryW
10-26-2003, 03:22 PM
rich colored water and near continuous chirouscuro of light upon it and surrounding meniscus at the edges of the pads makes this very enjoyable and easy for teh eye to keep moving and finding relationships.

tbezesky
10-26-2003, 11:15 PM
Thanks Jerry, that basically sums up the reasons I like to paint lily pads, and I did lots of my own lily pads and reflections that weren't there to make the composition work.

pampe
10-26-2003, 11:17 PM
nice painting with much interest

and interesting topic with nice information

tbezesky
10-26-2003, 11:28 PM
I just thought this might be interesting.
Here is a comparison of my reference to my painting,
to show how much I changed it.

tbezesky
10-26-2003, 11:41 PM
Thanks Pam,
I like tinkering with some of these new materials. (I know they're not that new)
Usually when I try something new I go back to my oils, because I found the media to inhibiting, but in the case of oil sticks that was not the case.
I still use mainly oils, but in certain instances if I want to really cut loose and I don't need refined detail. I have fun with these.