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Alan Cross
10-15-2003, 08:21 PM
A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: One Brush Landscape
Project Leader: Alan Cross
Relative Difficulty: Irrelevant
Type Restrictions: Any Type
Medium: Any Medium
Subject: Landscape
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

OK here will be a challange for some of you and also me LOL....paint any landscape but only use one brush for the whole painting I don't care about the medium its all the same, but just use any one brush to do the whole thing then take the photo of the painting with the brush along side so we can see it. State the size and type of brush and what you liked and didnt' like about the experence. Remember try and have some fun with it. Looking forward to your ideas and work.
Alan

Additional Information:

For more information on the project: Click here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=559)

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

Alan Cross
10-15-2003, 08:27 PM
Ok I thought you guys might like to try something a bit tougher...so here it is :D
I will add a few more ref photo's for you to work with...
Alan :)

macmaam
10-15-2003, 11:09 PM
WHAT?!?!? People use more than one brush?!?

This sounds interesting... maybe i wil give it a spin. If i do enough landscapes, eventually one of them HAS to turn out, kind of like that monkey and typewriter thing.

bairam
10-15-2003, 11:28 PM
Hi Alan.
I'm in and it should be a fun project. I once took a workshop done by Ron Ranson and he did his paintings using nothing but a hake brush. It was amazing the effects that he managed to get with that "awful" brush. :) He had definitely mastered the use of it.

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 01:19 AM
Great girls lets see what you can do....
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 03:22 PM
Ok I added a few images for inspiration if you want to paint any of those go for it....If you have one to upload also go for it....
Alan :)

madmum
10-16-2003, 05:01 PM
Alan, shouldn't this project be in the wet canvas gallery, not the watercolour forum, since it's any medium and you are just at home there as here? :)

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 05:07 PM
Thanks Ruth but most of the people that join my projects are painting in watercolors so thats why its here...
Alan :)

artman42
10-16-2003, 06:58 PM
I sign up Alan ,

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 07:06 PM
Great Jim I know you will show us some more great stuff...
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 07:47 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28870

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Woods.jpg

NIce one JIm I thought I was going to be able to beat you lol
Alan :)

artman42
10-16-2003, 07:59 PM
Thanks Alan lol..

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 07:59 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28871

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/13186/tn_One_brush_painting.jpg

Ok this is my first try with one brush....fun but a challenge next time I am going to try a different brush...
Alan :)

artman42
10-16-2003, 08:01 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28871

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/13186/tn_One_brush_painting.jpg

I like that Alan i have that Brush. like the Color.

Alan Cross
10-16-2003, 08:18 PM
Thanks Jim...
Alan :)

macmaam
10-16-2003, 10:38 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28870

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Woods.jpg

I like the mix of cools in this. That looks like a ravine in the front.

macmaam
10-16-2003, 10:41 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28871

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/13186/tn_One_brush_painting.jpg

Really nice play of colors and light... can i give up now??

Am also having a prob not grabbing my knife.

Alan Cross
10-17-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by macmaam
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28871

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/13186/tn_One_brush_painting.jpg

Really nice play of colors and light... can i give up now??

Am also having a prob not grabbing my knife.

LOL Lisa....no you can't!!! :D I am going to give it another try...use one of the ref pics like Jim did....thanks for your comments on mine...
Alan :)

artman42
10-17-2003, 06:53 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28870

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Woods.jpg

Thankyou macmaam

ladywolf1
10-17-2003, 11:49 AM
Alan,
Great idea!
I can't resist so, I'm in....

*just need some time..... can you mail me some extra if you have any?

cheri

Alan Cross
10-17-2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by ladywolf1
Alan,
Great idea!
I can't resist so, I'm in....

*just need some time..... can you mail me some extra if you have any?

cheri

Great Cheri take all the time you want I will be here :D Looking forward to see what you do....
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-17-2003, 01:06 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28883

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Barn_in_the_Fall.jpg

Nice one Jim very different from the first one....great sky.
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-17-2003, 01:08 PM
This is for everyone joining in can you also tell more about the brushes you use what we need to see is something like I used a one inch angle brush....gives us an idea how you got all the stokes....also could you say what you liked about the experment.
Alan :)

ladywolf1
10-17-2003, 03:50 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28870

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Woods.jpg

*i think you really captured a nice "essence" in this painting.... i find it very peaceful and serene with some nice sparkles of interest.... loose, yet bold.

artman42
10-17-2003, 06:27 PM
Thankyou LadyWolf and Thankyou Alan i couldnt reply before cause Wetcanvas was down.

macmaam
10-17-2003, 09:27 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28915

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmonomeabay.jpg

This is just a mess, but i learned a lot. Especially.... don't take a catapult to a knife fight.

macmaam
10-17-2003, 09:31 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28883

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Barn_in_the_Fall.jpg

That red barn really stands out! I like the texture in the foreground tree.

Alan Cross
10-18-2003, 02:55 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28915

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmonomeabay.jpg

LOL you and me both Lisa but thanks for your indepth review of your work, I think you did great....I also found the same thing but I used a 3/4 inch brush so this time I am going to use a bigger brush so now you need to try it with a smalller brush...looking forward to seeing what you do with it..
Alan :)

artman42
10-18-2003, 05:08 AM
Thankyou macmaam

Alan Cross
10-18-2003, 11:46 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28934

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9734/tn_onebrush_dunes.jpg

Good job on your dunes......thanks for joining in.
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-19-2003, 11:35 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28952

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Big_Sky.jpg

Good job Jim glad you had fun...
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-19-2003, 11:36 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28956

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/14560/tn_Bigsky_%282%29.jpg

Looks better I should have read both but I thought you did it twice....
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-19-2003, 11:38 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28943

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmnatdis2.jpg

Hi Lisa good job each one is a learning process for us all....landscapes are hard at the best of times....keep them coming.
Alan :)

artman42
10-19-2003, 12:09 PM
Thankyou Alan.

macmaam
10-19-2003, 06:01 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28934

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9734/tn_onebrush_dunes.jpg

No bunnies yet?!? I like the effect of the brushstrokes. In the thumbnail, this almost looked like a figure. Your colors are wild and wonderful, as always.

macmaam
10-19-2003, 06:05 PM
Oh, Alan, that is so kind of you... but you really don't HAVE to say nice things....well, at least until i do something right. Then it would be good to hear about it, lol! And i WILL do something right, sometime.

Alan Cross
10-19-2003, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by macmaam
Oh, Alan, that is so kind of you... but you really don't HAVE to say nice things....well, at least until i do something right. Then it would be good to hear about it, lol! And i WILL do something right, sometime.

By posting a painting it means you did something right....and you have already posted two so good for you this is not easy stuff....glad to have your submissinons to the project.
Alan :)

macmaam
10-19-2003, 11:00 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28997

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/11607/tn_10-19-03_tree_plein_air_web.JPG

Simple and effective; very peaceful. Good shadowing on the tree limbs.

Alan Cross
10-20-2003, 01:12 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28997

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/11607/tn_10-19-03_tree_plein_air_web.JPG

Good job thanks for adding it to the project...
Alan :)

bairam
10-20-2003, 06:54 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29043

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_big_brush1.jpg

I've uploaded my first two entries to this project.
The first one I did with a 1 1/2" Skywash brush

bairam
10-20-2003, 06:58 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29044

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_3.4_flat_brush.jpg

Here is the second painting. This one was with using a 3/4" flat WC brush. Same size paper.

Alan Cross
10-20-2003, 07:57 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29043

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_big_brush1.jpg

Good job on a peice of paper that size that 1 and 1/2 inch brush would seem huge...try it on a bigger sheet.
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-20-2003, 07:58 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29044

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_3.4_flat_brush.jpg

Again very nice and in this one you can see the smaller strokes...
Good job.
Alan :)

macmaam
10-20-2003, 10:04 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29044

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_3.4_flat_brush.jpg

Nice earth colors. Especially like the light hitting the one corner of the building. I like your tree shapes--mine all look like lollipops, no matter how hard i try not to let them.

macmaam
10-21-2003, 11:23 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29081

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmnatdis3.jpg

Didn't miss my knife as much on this one, but i still could have used it here and there. Is it legal to do a painting entirely with the palette knife, rather than a brush? That would be fun to try.

Alan Cross
10-21-2003, 12:59 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29081

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmnatdis3.jpg

Worked out pretty good....as for the kinfe I thought of that but it would not be easy in watercolors oils would work nice...
Alan :)

macmaam
10-21-2003, 01:58 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29084

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmknife.jpg

Had to take that challenge... This was the quickest i have ever worked, and the most fun i ever had! Spritzed the paper and laid on paint in about 10 minutes. Took the photo (in fact, there are a few reflections from the still-wet paint), and am out the door to golf!

Alan Cross
10-21-2003, 02:31 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29084

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmknife.jpg

Yea good for you.....but wait where are you playing I want to go!
Alan :)

barnone67
10-21-2003, 06:56 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29044

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/2194/tn_3.4_flat_brush.jpg

Great painting, like the use of strong colours and features:clap:

bairam
10-21-2003, 10:57 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29084

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/9018/tn_lmmknife.jpg

I like this very much. It's very fresh and the colors are nice and clean. I think you may be on to something. I may have to try it.
Good job:clap: :clap: :clap:

macmaam
10-22-2003, 01:03 AM
Oh, do try it! It was a blast!

So sorry, Alan, fun is all over. But the forecast for next Tuesday is in the 60's, so come on down!

macmaam
10-22-2003, 01:14 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29100

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/30087/tn_vineyard-5.jpg

Wow, what a lot of little tiny strokes you made! Am not sure i am seeing the color accurately, but you did a good job spreading the pink/orange throughout the painting.

Alan Cross
10-22-2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by macmaam
Oh, do try it! It was a blast!

So sorry, Alan, fun is all over. But the forecast for next Tuesday is in the 60's, so come on down!

LOL Lisa wish I could how did you play?
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-22-2003, 01:31 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29100

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/30087/tn_vineyard-5.jpg

Good job thanks for posting your brush so how did you like it?
Alan :)

Ragtimelil
10-22-2003, 08:48 AM
ok, I'm going to give it a try. I would really like to learn more about landscapes. I seem to be stuck on dogs.....:rolleyes:

macmaam
10-22-2003, 10:23 AM
LOL, golfed like i always do... which is a good place to leave that. But it was great fun driving the cart back and forth through the crunchy leaves; the sky was incredibly blue, the breeze was warm, and we had a grand day of it.

Alan Cross
10-22-2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
ok, I'm going to give it a try. I would really like to learn more about landscapes. I seem to be stuck on dogs.....:rolleyes:

Yes please give it a try always fun to try different things...
Alan :)

barnone67
10-22-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by macmaam
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29100

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/completed/30087/tn_vineyard-5.jpg

Wow, what a lot of little tiny strokes you made! Am not sure i am seeing the color accurately, but you did a good job spreading the pink/orange throughout the painting.


Thanks for you interest and comments. Yes I did use a lot of small strokes.
I'm still on a steep learning curve yet. (painting since May)

I agree the colour is a lot flatter/duller than the original .
I'll look into that nexttime I upload a picture.

Barry

barnone67
10-22-2003, 03:48 PM
Thanks Alan, for your interest, I found it challenging - but mainly due to lack of talent. I think your job is safe for a bit longer yet (ha,ha)

Still trying to understand the way everything works via the Net
and Wet Canvas protocol, hence an early aborted attempt to upload my picture.

Barry

macmaam
10-22-2003, 06:32 PM
Barry--Gosh, i hope you didn't misunderstand my comment. It wasn't about the way the color looked, but about the way you spread it throughout the picture. It really helps to unify the painting and pull the eye through.

Maybe you have poked through Wet Canvas already, but just in case you haven't... You mentioned you are trying to learn, and some of the tutorials on here are a great way to practice. You can find them here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/channels.php?cmd=news&channel_id=31

barnone67
10-22-2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by macmaam
Barry--Gosh, i hope you didn't misunderstand my comment. It wasn't about the way the color looked, but about the way you spread it throughout the picture. It really helps to unify the painting and pull the eye through.

Maybe you have poked through Wet Canvas already, but just in case you haven't... You mentioned you are trying to learn, and some of the tutorials on here are a great way to practice. You can find them here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/channels.php?cmd=news&channel_id=31

Thanks Lisa,
I'll follow up your advice-
Barry

Ragtimelil
10-27-2003, 09:03 PM
I can't seem to get the hang of this at ALL. I've tried some of the tutorials, but can't seem to get the hang of landscapes and I really, REALLY want to learn. Is there a very BASIC tutorial somewhere? My stuff looks like a 2-yr-old did it and I don't think my other stuff is ALL that bad....:crying:

Ragtimelil
10-27-2003, 09:25 PM
I can't seem to get the hang of this at ALL. I've tried some of the tutorials, but can't seem to get the hang of landscapes and I really, REALLY want to learn. Is there a very BASIC tutorial somewhere? My stuff looks like a 2-yr-old did it and I don't think my other stuff is ALL that bad....:crying:

Alan Cross
10-28-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
I can't seem to get the hang of this at ALL. I've tried some of the tutorials, but can't seem to get the hang of landscapes and I really, REALLY want to learn. Is there a very BASIC tutorial somewhere? My stuff looks like a 2-yr-old did it and I don't think my other stuff is ALL that bad....:crying:

Hi I have a pretty basic one in my sig file....but really its just a lot of practice thats all there is to it....
Alan :)

Ragtimelil
10-28-2003, 07:46 AM
oops, sorry. Didn't mean to post it twice. What's a sig file?

macmaam
10-28-2003, 09:47 AM
Alan's and Rod's tutorials on this site are very helpful, with lots of info including sketches, color suggestions, and explanation of technique. Here are some links to other sites you might want to check.

http://www.tonyslater.co.uk/

http://www.simplypainting.com

http://www.fountainstudio.com/watercolor_tips.html

http://www.donington.com/watercolour/studio.htm

ladywolf1
10-28-2003, 10:15 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29506

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/progress/26145/tn_DSC01380_boathse_WCwbrush.jpg

*hi Alan & all.....
well, I'm finally getting something posted.
now, to try to get some details with the edge of the brush, do mortar work and adjust some things.

*i really like that this project has made me think different... it made me loosen up and just go for it.
bye,
cheri

Alan Cross
10-28-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
oops, sorry. Didn't mean to post it twice. What's a sig file?

Hi if you look at the bottem of my post you will see a link to about 6 demo's I did.....try one or more of them...
Alan :)

Alan Cross
10-28-2003, 10:37 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=29506

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/559/progress/26145/tn_DSC01380_boathse_WCwbrush.jpg

Good job with that brush.....very nice! Thanks for posting..
Alan :)

ladywolf1
10-28-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
I can't seem to get the hang of this at ALL. I've tried some of the tutorials, but can't seem to get the hang of landscapes and I really, REALLY want to learn. Is there a very BASIC tutorial somewhere? My stuff looks like a 2-yr-old did it and I don't think my other stuff is ALL that bad....:crying:

Hi Lil....
*just wanted to send you a vote of confidence. The fact that you WANT to learn is the first step....

Along with the wonderful help from Alan and the others, you will begin to make sense of all this "stuff". Here are a couple of basic "tips" I received from wonderful teachers I hope they will help you.

*paint BIG!

*focus on process, NOT product..... in other words, have FUN! Try to learn from each painting.... how things worked well and what things you think you might do different next time.

*simplify subjects.... i think in terms of geometry..... squares, rectangles, triangles, circles....then go 3-D.... boxes, pyramids and spheres. You can draw or paint any object by breaking it down..... I find this particularly useful for complex subjects..... even the human form.

*get familiar with basic compositional techniques..... then make a plan for your painting.

*use values to make form... whether a 3-value system or 5-value system...... just experiment with them.

*remember in landscapes that as things recede into the distance they get
1. smaller
2. lighter
3. cooler/greyer *(color intensity is diminished)
4. less detailed

so, as you bring the viewer closer, objects will become
1. bigger
2. darker
3. warmer/brighter/more intense color
4. more detailed

*finally, just paint, paint, paint....... (i call it "burning canvas"....) Not every painting turns out the way we'd like..... but, don't throw those away either..... they are great boosts down the road when you will be able to see how far you have progressed. Plus, I am now revisiting early work and reworking them...... hopefully with a more mature eye & approach.

so, DON'T GIVE UP!!...... you are well on your path of discovery. Enjoy the journey!
cheri

ladywolf1
10-28-2003, 11:01 AM
*i meant to post this as a WIP...... it's not done yet....
oooooops!
:rolleyes:
cheri

Alan Cross
10-28-2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by ladywolf1


Hi Lil....
*just wanted to send you a vote of confidence. The fact that you WANT to learn is the first step....

Along with the wonderful help from Alan and the others, you will begin to make sense of all this "stuff". Here are a couple of basic "tips" I received from wonderful teachers I hope they will help you.

*paint BIG!

*focus on process, NOT product..... in other words, have FUN! Try to learn from each painting.... how things worked well and what things you think you might do different next time.

*simplify subjects.... i think in terms of geometry..... squares, rectangles, triangles, circles....then go 3-D.... boxes, pyramids and spheres. You can draw or paint any object by breaking it down..... I find this particularly useful for complex subjects..... even the human form.

*get familiar with basic compositional techniques..... then make a plan for your painting.

*use values to make form... whether a 3-value system or 5-value system...... just experiment with them.

*remember in landscapes that as things recede into the distance they get
1. smaller
2. lighter
3. cooler/greyer *(color intensity is diminished)
4. less detailed

so, as you bring the viewer closer, objects will become
1. bigger
2. darker
3. warmer/brighter/more intense color
4. more detailed

*finally, just paint, paint, paint....... (i call it "burning canvas"....) Not every painting turns out the way we'd like..... but, don't throw those away either..... they are great boosts down the road when you will be able to see how far you have progressed. Plus, I am now revisiting early work and reworking them...... hopefully with a more mature eye & approach.

so, DON'T GIVE UP!!...... you are well on your path of discovery. Enjoy the journey!
cheri

Well Said Cheri and don't worry keep working on your painting post it again when its finshed....
Alan :)

Ragtimelil
10-28-2003, 02:47 PM
Thanks for all your wonderful comments, encouragement and suggestions. I guess I should have been more specific though. I can paint trees at a distance. It's the feeling, as in the photos supplied with this exercise, that you are in the middle of the trees that gives me trouble. I get lost in all the leaves and branches. I can't seem to simplify it or, at least when I do, it just looks like blobs and nothing like a forest. And I certainly don't have the patience to paint each branch and leaf. I even tried blurring it with my computer painting program. That didn't help at all. But I'll keep trying. :cool:

Alan Cross
10-28-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
Thanks for all your wonderful comments, encouragement and suggestions. I guess I should have been more specific though. I can paint trees at a distance. It's the feeling, as in the photos supplied with this exercise, that you are in the middle of the trees that gives me trouble. I get lost in all the leaves and branches. I can't seem to simplify it or, at least when I do, it just looks like blobs and nothing like a forest. And I certainly don't have the patience to paint each branch and leaf. I even tried blurring it with my computer painting program. That didn't help at all. But I'll keep trying. :cool:

Those are just examples look in the RIL and see if you can find a better one...
Alan :)

macmaam
10-28-2003, 06:20 PM
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Looks good to me, even without details. Like the varied color in the siding, and the uneven roof line. You really got some good depth under the eaves, and on the shadow side.

ladywolf1
10-29-2003, 08:38 AM
thanks Lisa for the nice comments......
it's a real challenge to stick to one brush isn't it? I found myself subconsciously reaching for a smaller brush to fix the darn roof, lol! so, I am glad you like that part.... it's purely accidental.

cheri

ladywolf1
10-29-2003, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Ragtimelil
Thanks for all your wonderful comments, encouragement and suggestions. I guess I should have been more specific though. I can paint trees at a distance. It's the feeling, as in the photos supplied with this exercise, that you are in the middle of the trees that gives me trouble. I get lost in all the leaves and branches. I can't seem to simplify it or, at least when I do, it just looks like blobs and nothing like a forest. And I certainly don't have the patience to paint each branch and leaf. I even tried blurring it with my computer painting program. That didn't help at all. But I'll keep trying. :cool:

Hi Lil.....
You're welcome on the comments...... and I'm with you..... it's tough to paint being "in" the forest...... kinda' like, "how do we separate the forest from the trees".... there's WAY too much information.

You want to achieve the impression of "forest" without painting every darn leaf...... my only suggestion is try to think of how far you can actually see when you are under the tree canopy. The middle ground tends to become the background since the depth of view is less.... so, treat it as such through lighter values & fuzzier details.....
then when you overlay your detailed foreground, perhaps it will all gel together.....
or, as Alan said...... try another reference if this one is really getting to you.....and maybe come back to it later.

*I was going to try that tree reference too..... so I may shortly end up in the same quandry as you...... I have a tendency to be too detail-oriented and must continually remind myself to simplfy. It truly is a challenge.... and that's why it's good for us, right?....lol...

cheri

Ragtimelil
10-29-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by ladywolf1


Hi Lil.....

You want to achieve the impression of "forest" without painting every darn leaf...... my only suggestion is try to think of how far you can actually see when you are under the tree canopy. The middle ground tends to become the background since the depth of view is less.... so, treat it as such through lighter values & fuzzier details.....
then when you overlay your detailed foreground, perhaps it will all gel together.....
or, as Alan said...... try another reference if this one is really getting to you.....and maybe come back to it later.


Cheri,
Thanks for the tips. I was going to try another pic that I have in my stock today. I've tried going from light to dark, then from dark to light. Maybe I need to go back to front.:rolleyes:

ladywolf1
10-29-2003, 09:35 AM
You're welcome Lil....
I'm sure you'll be able to do it... and i'd bet that each try will get better and better...
* yes, try working back to front... it just might do the trick.
i will look forward to seeing your efforts..... and you can send me a bottle of aspirin when i get stuck in the trees, lol!
well, i better get off the computer and get to work myself......
have a great day....
cheri

Ragtimelil
10-29-2003, 02:21 PM
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:rolleyes: OK, I'm nothing if not stubborn. I went back to the one I had started and decided to finish it anyway. I liked SOME of what I attempted. I had trouble with colors getting muddy (not usually a problem for me..) and getting really punchy light! I think I passed the point where I should have quit - twice. It started out looking like a watercolor but turned into an acrylic.....
On a good note, it's light years better than the first one I tried. I think working from back to front keeps me from wandering around and getting too lost.

Alan Cross
10-29-2003, 02:37 PM
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Well you know this is not that easy....I think you did fine I always paint from the top on down....

Alan :)

Ragtimelil
10-29-2003, 02:46 PM
Thanks. I'll try that too. Now I go make another one....:evil:

Alan Cross
10-29-2003, 02:55 PM
Thats the stuff....looking forward to your next work...
Alan :)

ladywolf1
10-29-2003, 04:04 PM
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Lil,

Hey, not bad at all! Good for you for hanging in on it....stubborness can pay off sometimes, don't you think?

I think there are many successful passages in this..... i especially like the cast shadows.... you handled those well. I also was drawn to the way you overlayed the bluish areas for the negative shapes between the trees.

But, Alan's right.... perhaps it would be better to work from top to bottom since you are working in watercolor.... (i had oils on my mind when i said back to front). But again.... it's about discovering what works for you and gaining knowledge as you go...... and for me, i really like the experimental nature of art.....each piece has "discovery" in it & that's why i try to enjoy the process.

*finally, I had to laugh when you said you passed the quitting point twice & were turning H2Ocolors into acrylic..... boy, if i had a buck for everytime i should've just said 'stop'. (I once overworked an area in a watercolor so much that i wore a hole in the paper).

so, thanks for the smile during my break.... i'm stretching 5 canvasses right now and i'd say you are having more fun than i am....

bye, cheri

macmaam
10-29-2003, 04:54 PM
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You have a good pattern of lights and darks, and lots of color variation. Throw a mat on it and hang it across the room--bet you will be surprised by how good it looks.

Ragtimelil
10-29-2003, 05:24 PM
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perhaps it would be better to work from top to bottom since you are working in watercolor.... (i had oils on my mind when i said back to front). But again.... it's about discovering what works for you and gaining knowledge as you go...... and for me, i really like the experimental nature of art.....each piece has "discovery" in it & that's why i try to enjoy the process.

*finally, I had to laugh when you said you passed the quitting point twice & were turning H2Ocolors into acrylic..... boy, if i had a buck for everytime i should've just said 'stop'. (I once overworked an area in a watercolor so much that i wore a hole in the paper).

so, thanks for the smile during my break.... i'm stretching 5 canvasses right now and i'd say you are having more fun than i am....

bye, cheri
Well, yes. If your idea of FUN is total and complete frustration and humiliation, then I'd say I was having a BLAST. Actually, I am painting in acylic. :eek: I just had them thinned down to act like watercolor. As I painted, I had to cover up mistakes so I used them heavier and heavier.....bye bye watercolors.....
Sigh. Stretching canvas sounds really good right about now....:p
Thanks for the kind words.
And thanks for the encouragement from both of you.

Ragtimelil
10-29-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by macmaam


You have a good pattern of lights and darks, and lots of color variation. Throw a mat on it and hang it across the room--bet you will be surprised by how good it looks. [/B]

Actually, it does look pretty good, from the next room...or in a 1 inch thumbnail.....:D
Thanks for your kind words.

ladywolf1
10-30-2003, 09:36 AM
You're most welcome Lil....... hang in there and don't give up.....

*although sometimes it's also good advice to take a break.....
just let it go for a bit....

**maybe go visit a local gallery/museum with contemporary paintings etc. Zero into which painting(s) you really like..... ask why? How did the artist achieve the result that drew you into that particular painting over the others.... what areas "zing" out at you....take notes too if you want.....

I'd bet that if you're like me, you'll just be itching to get back home and paint more, more, more.
*it can be a very refreshing & inspiring artistic boost....

cheri

bairam
11-02-2003, 07:20 PM
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Wonderful color in this one. What medium is it and size?

Ragtimelil
11-05-2003, 12:42 PM
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(I LOVE this site, but it's NOT easy to get around in. I guess it just takes practice!)
Anyway, I just had time to try another one. I think it's a bit better, but I'm not happy with the brush work. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Lana:cool:

ps. ooohh bairam, I love it.

Alan Cross
11-05-2003, 01:14 PM
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Very nice Lana....glad you are enjoying this project....
Alan :)

ladywolf1
11-09-2003, 10:38 AM
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I think you did a great job on this!..... don't you think?

Some suggestions for further studies/thinking:
* push your areas of light with color... which leads to the second suggestion....
* think about the use of opaque white.... it tends to dull-out an area... maybe use a yellow-white mix or a pinch of cad. orange-white....
* finally, consider a "note" of sparkle..... to highlight your focal point (which IMO is the dappled light in the path by the base of the big tree) *push that beautiful passage to full advantage.... again, with color!

I think you were very successful on MANY levels in this painting....
especially interpreting the 'forest from the trees' aspect and the dappling of light is very nice. :clap:

Remember, my suggestions are only for you to experiment with... (nothing is etched in stone nor should it be).... and as I, myself, am trying to push a bolder, brighter, cleaner palette, I admit I am biased in this regard.

But, just look at Alan's work.... it is a great example of the use of bold color & strong focal points. For me, I find it very pleasing to look at.
**Also, check out the work of Stephen Quiller.... I don't know if he'll appeal to you..... but I really like his interpretations of nature and his book on color theory is, IMHO, quite good.

*i am working on two other paintings for this project and hope to post in a couple of days....
*oh, and i picked a different brush....
What did I discover? *start with a brush that has a straight edge if I want to do reasonably straight lines.... the first brush definately needs a haircut!

regards,
cheri

Ragtimelil
11-09-2003, 01:58 PM
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I think you did a great job on this!..... don't you think?

Some suggestions for further studies/thinking:
* push your areas of light with color... which leads to the second suggestion....
* think about the use of opaque white.... it tends to dull-out an area... maybe use a yellow-white mix or a pinch of cad. orange-white....
* finally, consider a "note" of sparkle..... to highlight your focal point (which IMO is the dappled light in the path by the base of the big tree) *push that beautiful passage to full advantage.... again, with color!

I think you were very successful on MANY levels in this painting....
especially interpreting the 'forest from the trees' aspect and the dappling of light is very nice. :clap:

Remember, my suggestions are only for you to experiment with... (nothing is etched in stone nor should it be).... and as I, myself, am trying to push a bolder, brighter, cleaner palette, I admit I am biased in this regard.

But, just look at Alan's work.... it is a great example of the use of bold color & strong focal points. For me, I find it very pleasing to look at.
**Also, check out the work of Stephen Quiller.... I don't know if he'll appeal to you..... but I really like his interpretations of nature and his book on color theory is, IMHO, quite good.

*i am working on two other paintings for this project and hope to post in a couple of days....
*oh, and i picked a different brush....
What did I discover? *start with a brush that has a straight edge if I want to do reasonably straight lines.... the first brush definately needs a haircut!

regards,
cheri
Thanks so much for your suggestions. I did go in an add some yellow and it really helped.
I learned about using a straight-edged brush too! ;)
I'll look for Quiller, thanks. Never hurts to look!
But what do you suggest for the base of the tree? I'm very open to suggestions. I'll be doing more. I just dragged out my old 35mm for taking pictures around my area. It's really beautiful here.
Thanks again for the suggestions. It will sink in eventually!
L

ladywolf1
11-10-2003, 08:59 AM
Hi Lil,

See how adding just a touch of color makes just a little "zing"? I'm glad you were willing try it... and you should feel proud at your accomplishments in this painting.

The book by Quiller is called Color Choices: Making Color Sense Out of Color Theory. He has some good stuff to ponder..... and to tell you the truth.... I did an experiment.

I have been working on a large canvas of the Grand Canyon with one of his color combinations.... and a friend of mine came over to visit..... saw the painting.... & bought it on the spot....! It wasn't even 50% done. The first thing she said was "look at the light!".... at that very second I knew I got her! lol!

My only suggestion for the base of the tree is that you COULD add some sort of object/life/or splash of color to enhance your focal point...... say a different type of plant *(maybe indian paintbrush or poppies), a nongreen bush, mushrooms, animal (rabbit, chipmunk, fox, deer ) or even a dilapidated sign that says "to the lake" or "Watering Hole" with an arrow and a pair of orange or red sneakers strewn haphazardly below it.....

**Remember, you are the storyteller in your paintings.... so, tell as much or as little of a story as you want.....you have the freedom to do anything! Make the viewer involved....lead them in.....give them a place to zero in on and return to... even make the viewer smile with subject matter..... it is totally up to you.

It boils down to creating a "zinger" in that area, of enhancing your focal point to the max (and that's why in this instance I say a cad. orangish mix, it's one step up from a direct compliment) ...it would stand out like a beacon in all of the green ... even just a slash of white with a 'touch' of cad. orange mix down the highlight side of the trunk & onto the path would do the trick.

so, be bold in experimenting.... use color relationships to your advantage ...
( the reality is, we really have nothing to lose by trying....)
that's why I try to always remain open to new ways of thinking and creating in my work.... i jump into the unknown... and if it works, well, then I'm pleasantly surprised. And, if it further leads me to the bank deposit slip, then I'm really one happy camper...;)

keep me posted.... i'm rooting for ya!
c

Ragtimelil
11-10-2003, 08:03 PM
Hey, Cheri,
thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to post that on my studio wall! For when I need inspiration and encouragement. I just moved my studio downstairs so I haven't done anything in a couple of days, but tomorrow........:cat:

ladywolf1
11-11-2003, 09:14 AM
Hi Lil,

You are most welcome!;) I'm glad if I was able to help. All I know is that you sounded so frustrated at the beginning of this project... and believe me, I've been there. *in fact, YESTERDAY I was there, lol!

I was working on the boathouse ..... now it has 25 layers of paint.... just slightly OVERWORKED I'd say....I finally got everything pretty much ironed out.... until I put it up on my "viewing" wall last night, stepped back to look.... and guess what? The whole darn building is tilted to the left, lol! ARGHHHH!!!!

Here I talked about picking a new brush that would paint a straight line, lol! It was straight allright..... *i wonder if my drying shelf is level?

so, some paintings come easy..... others, N-O-T. *deep sigh...

**BUT, you have inspired me too... I am going to stick it out. I am going to tackle it again today....
onward and forward my friend!
cheri

p.s. that's great you are setting up a new studio area....! May great things be created there.

ladywolf1
11-20-2003, 01:31 PM
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hi everybody :cool:
..... well I posted this and another entry for finals... sorry the pic's aren't the best.

** this was a fun project Alan!

So, what were some of the things I learned?

1) brush choice matters
2) brush control matters
3) *and in the Aspen painting I just had a blast with "freer" brushstrokes. I let loose on this one.

bye,
cheri

Ragtimelil
11-21-2003, 06:09 PM
ohhh I like it....I can just see a little dog sled team going by....hehe...but that's just me....

ladywolf1
11-21-2003, 11:44 PM
lol!...... mush & more hot chocolate!
thanks, cheri

Alan Cross
11-23-2003, 10:03 PM
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cheri this is a great peice of work to have being done with one brush....wonderful work and so glad you enjoyed it....
Alan :)

ladywolf1
11-24-2003, 07:36 AM
Thanks so much for the kind words Alan....... :)
I'm glad you liked it.

*Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

Alan Cross
12-23-2003, 06:58 PM
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I like the whole light look of this one.....no need to really go darker anywhere or you might lose this feeling....good job thanks for posting.
Alan :)

Scitzo
01-11-2004, 04:01 PM
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Did this in 10 min. Was great fun, I used a flat syntetic brush 20 mm widht, which I use normaly for wetting the background

Harry

Alan Cross
01-11-2004, 07:40 PM
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Harry thanks for posting and good work....the tree is great and thanks for adding your brush into the photo so we could see what you used....
Alan :)

pastelist
03-21-2004, 07:39 PM
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Here is my completed One Brush Landscape. I completed it with a 3/4 flatbush. The painting is 14 x 18. Thanks for allowing me to participate.

Alan Cross
03-21-2004, 09:09 PM
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Here is my completed One Brush Landscape. I completed it with a 3/4 flatbush. The painting is 14 x 18. Thanks for allowing me to participate.
Patricia looks good and thanks for puting in the brush you used....nicly done.
Alan :)

Bioartist
09-09-2004, 09:19 AM
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This is a beautiful piece and well done with such a small brush. Lets hope mine is half as good.
Stacey

Bioartist
09-09-2004, 09:28 AM
Question, I now that in the project section, it says any medium yet the discussion is in the watercolour forum - is there something I am missing here, or is it OK to paint in another medium and post here?????
Sorry, but new to this whole project system thing :rolleyes: .
Stacey
PS. thanks for your time and patience

Bioartist
09-09-2004, 09:34 AM
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This is truly a beautiful piece.
Stacey

Bioartist
09-09-2004, 09:45 AM
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I like what you have achieved with the large brush, very nicely done.
Stacey

Alan Cross
09-12-2004, 09:26 PM
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This is a beautiful piece and well done with such a small brush. Lets hope mine is half as good.
Stacey
Thanks very much Stacy glad you liked it and I am sure yours will be just fine!
Alan :)

Alan Cross
09-12-2004, 09:27 PM
Question, I now that in the project section, it says any medium yet the discussion is in the watercolour forum - is there something I am missing here, or is it OK to paint in another medium and post here?????
Sorry, but new to this whole project system thing :rolleyes: .
Stacey
PS. thanks for your time and patience
Hi Stacey and no problem it is in the watercolor forum but you can use any medium you like....looking forward to seeing your efforts.
Alan :)