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10-01-2015, 07:19 AM
Hi all. I got some winter pansies and violas from the gardeners in the community centre next door to where I live. Maybe I'll paint them or at least take a photo to post in RIL for others to paint.

I am posting a couple of projects so have a look and see if any inspire you for this month's art!

1. portraits

2. Art journal single page

Today, I have been gluing and sticking so that's always fun. What have you been doing art-wise. Let us know!


10-01-2015, 10:35 PM
Thanks June for the great new projects for October...some really
great ideas !!! I am still working on small works..i enjoy working
small, and i've been enjoying working with either pencils or ink/w/c..
I love the portrait i've picked out to do by Lisilk..and i want to take my time on it, so it turns out fairly decent...and it will be fun to do
an impressionistic Renoir of the girl and her dog ...
I also am going to try a journal page...i watched the videos you provided...and am always so amazed at how they turn out so interesting in the end...ive always liked it when they add script
or poetry to these pieces...
Happy October Everyone....tyree:wave:

June...i had to look at some of past portraits, but I knew I had
done this guy before...He's in the portrait challenge !!

10-01-2015, 11:09 PM
Haven't been here in many, many moons. I don't hate you; I have just been very busy! :-)

Now and then even found some time for drawing and painting. E.g. some drawings based on stills from the film "The Name of the Rose":




And some berries, drawn after a stock photo:


Stock photos are a new source for me. At many of those stock photo websites you get quite large previews for free. These usually have a watermark on them so that they cannot be used as photographs, but that needn't bother an artist! :-)

And two small paintings, in which I continue to explore my infatuation with post-impressionism:



10-05-2015, 02:23 PM
Brian your potraits are wonderful !! glad you are back with us !

10-06-2015, 12:38 AM
Those are terrific portraits Tyree and Brian!! I love the detail and beautiful realism!

10-09-2015, 09:35 AM
A pine cone drawn from life for this week's scavenger hunt at the "Artwork from Life" subforum. I have forgotten how much fun it is to draw from life rather than photos!


10-10-2015, 06:26 AM
If you want to join in the Christmas Santa art exchange, please send your address to me by private message asap, and I will make a list and send it out by the end of October.

The art swap is an exchange of some small piece of art you created.....to be sent as a Christmas 'hello' of friendship within the classical forum. It can be any art you have created...recent or older pieces. A token of friendship within this group.

It would be lovely to see each other's art in person and to get... as a keepsake.

It could be a small work you did for one of the classical forum projects, it could be an atc, or a card. Anything you want to give away in friendship.

Let me know if you are IN!!

:wave: :thumbsup:

10-10-2015, 08:53 AM
Hi June...I sent my address to you this morning !!
count me in !! tyree:wave:

10-11-2015, 06:21 AM
So far :-3 participants, for the Christmas art swap!!

Good excuse to try and organise my art from their folders.

10-15-2015, 11:54 AM
Tried some more paintings, and now I see what part of my problem is: I frickin' hate canvas board! The paint just soaks right into it, after which it becomes almost impossible to blend or manipulate it further, or do any meaningful wet in wet work. The brushes also seem to pick up some sort of fluffy gunk from the board which then gets rolled into little balls, and the colours tend to dry as mat and featureless as acrylic. Plus, it's murder on one's brushes - you have to scrub and scrub and scrub to get the support covered, and even then white spots show through. Aaargh!

Here's what may well be my last painting ever on that particular support:


So I returned to cheap, humble masonite, primed with a layer of acrylic, and I feel like someone who has been eating soup with a fork all his life, and suddenly got handed a spoon. It took less than half the time to paint, despite being bigger than the first one, simply because the paint flows onto the support so easily. And look at all the juicy brush strokes and vastly richer colour! Now this is fun.


Both of the above painted from life instead of reference pictures, and that, I have to say, is something I really should do more often. I have never really warmed to working from photos. Don't know why; it is supposed to be easier, but I never experienced it that way.

10-15-2015, 12:34 PM
brian...I understand what you are saying about the canvas board, it
is very difficult to cover.....Regarding the painting or drawing from life...not
for me, I much prefer using photos....much easier for me to see the shadows and light from photos...btw...your pieces look great ! tyree:wave:

10-15-2015, 06:32 PM
My preference is painting from imagination first, taking reference from photos second. I'd like to do more from life but no access to life figure models!!

The panel painting does look juicy in colour and paint texture Brian. Good to discover what you prefer!

10-16-2015, 10:58 AM
My preference is painting from imagination first, taking reference from photos second. I'd like to do more from life but no access to life figure models!!

Your imaginative work is indeed, well, very imaginative. :-)
I don't have much of a visual imagination myself, I fear. Rather dependent on observation, and since I don't like working from photos much, this mostly confines me to still life.

10-17-2015, 07:29 PM
Big fan of your art Brian.
As well as June and Susan!

Loving all the art I'm seeing in the thread.

Count me in as disliking canvas board.

Sometimes it helps to either give a coat of gesso, let dry, sand lightly
paint a layer of titanium white, let dry, or another color ground coat of your choice before
commencing with however you go, either charcoal or line drawing, etc.
The gesso ground kind of sinks in as the oil coat doesn't.

Some people will even put a ground coat of acrylic on before painting with oils. Which in the long run is basically the same as using acrylic gesso.

I've taken what paint was left over on the palette and used that to coat the next canvas, add a color to it to tint toward what ground you want.

Painting from pictures, least favorite thing, imagination, I love, and love to set up a still life and paint.

Other things, I signed up for the Christmas swap in miniatures, so painting everyone a new painting for Christmas.

Bought stamps, cut my paper, measured, they fit in envelopes. Using Arches oil painting paper. First coat of paint sinks, so I am using a ground this time.

Paper is not the most permanent thing to paint on, but it's works rather well.
In addition it's plus is it's lightweight for mailing.

You all will be able to either frame the painting I am sending you or just pin it to the wall, or, do with it as you will.

The only trouble I got into, made a peach cobbler. :evil: Yum!

10-18-2015, 12:54 AM
Nickel: I still have some canvas boards left, and I am not going to let them go to waste. I have indeed considered just covering them with a layer or two of acrylic (which is how I prime the masonite), and will likely try out this option and see how it goes. I am still in the process of learning and experimenting.

10-18-2015, 11:31 AM
Brian I think your idea of a layer or two of acrylic will work well for you.
Learning and experimenting is good at all levels.
A few years ago, a couple of us were adding sand to our paint ground.
That was a gritty experiment. :)
Marble dust is another option to fill canvas grain.

10-18-2015, 11:40 AM
Marble dust is another option to fill canvas grain.

It's not so much the grain that bothers me (in fact, in some pictures I rather like it) as the way in which the paint sinks into the support, and then you can't blend anymore. I wonder if stretched canvas also does this. I have never tried it; it's expensive around here.

Onto another attempt on board:


It illustrates another problem: on the photo, the colours came out somehow pale and garish at the same time. They look a bit better in the original. But I can't work out how to take and manipulate photos that really accurately represent paintings.

Had quite a bit of trouble with this one: initially, the apple on the right was a complete mess. I let it dry a bit overnight and then worked on it some more. It looks better now, though this is decidedly not one of my more successful pictures. ;-)

10-18-2015, 03:10 PM
Lovely apples Brian.

I think the answer to your question is yes the paint can sink on stretched canvas. It depends on the ground.

Things to try if you don't want the first layers to sink, make sure you have enough ground. It takes a lot of ground to completely fill up the grain on canvas, and like you said, it's nice to see some grain.

Another idea is to not dilute, thinning out the paint too much when a painting is first started with only a solvent, add some (little) oil. It's the fat over lean, thick over thin thing. There are other things people add to paint to make it more viscous, the ability to flow. You might like to try a bit of stand oil or sun-thickened oil, the later you can make yourself. Some painting mediums have damar varnish added but that can make your painting soft if it is ever cleaned sometime in the future. I think alkyds have replaced it although that has it's problems too. It is difficult to remove from your brushes.

One of our traditionally trained painters always said, pigment rich, oil poor. I believe him. He recommended using a brush to spread paint with some force to manipulate blending when glazing. Of course your layers must be dry.

Wet-on-wet, I need some sort of medium dilution for the paint to leave the brush. Hope some of this helps.

10-20-2015, 11:31 AM
And another one. Once again, to my great frustration, I simply can't get the camera to capture the thing accurately; the original looks a bit better than this...


I misjudged the amount of reflection on the glass, and now it's rather garish. Oh well, so we learn. :-)

10-21-2015, 04:03 AM
I love the glass Brian. Especially the way the banana 'bends' (on the top) with the curvature of the glass.

10-21-2015, 04:04 AM
PS Have you tried picmonkey.com for editing. Its free and does a good job. I use it.


10-21-2015, 09:27 AM
I love the glass Brian. Especially the way the banana 'bends' (on the top) with the curvature of the glass.

It's an effect I like. Also, it's surprisingly easy to paint, but tend to hugely impress people. :-)

PS Have you tried picmonkey.com for editing. Its free and does a good job. I use it.

I have, but as far as I can work out, it isn't really any better than GIMP. I do crop the picture and adjust the colours; it's just that I can never get them quite like in the original.

10-25-2015, 02:28 AM
And yet another:


10-28-2015, 02:05 AM
Tried out a somewhat larger size (297 x 210 mm - about size A4). It seems to me I sort of automatically tend to stylize and simplify. Not sure if it is a good or a bad thing! :-)


10-28-2015, 09:05 AM
Embrace your style.
Personally, I love it.
Unique and only you.
That to me is beauty.

10-28-2015, 09:46 AM
I love this latest one with the plate in the background. Very yummy!!

10-28-2015, 09:53 AM
And here's the latest one:


It's not as successful as the one before, I think. Oh well, all part of the learning curve. The important thing is to keep on churning them out. :-)

10-30-2015, 12:47 AM

Can't quite decide whether I like this one or absolutely hate it. Either way, white objects are a devil to paint, because if you make them as white as you see them, the highlights won't show up, but if you paint them a bit darker, they easily come out too dark.

I haven't really found a way to resolve this issue yet.

10-31-2015, 05:53 AM
Happy Hallowe'en!!:eek: :eek:



10-31-2015, 05:19 PM
happy halloween !!!!

11-01-2015, 01:03 AM
I had a happy Halloween: the paintings I have been posting here were taken on consignment by a local gallery yesterday. Now we just have to see whether any will sell. :-)

11-01-2015, 05:28 AM
Congratulations!! I hope they sell well!

11-02-2015, 07:57 AM
Congratulations!! I hope they sell well!

Well, that remains to be seen. The gallery manager told me that still life does not sell all that well, but now and then there is a sudden burst of sales on the genre. Let's hope she is patient. :-)