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J.D.
04-17-2015, 12:09 AM
Any thoughts on this one. it just seems a little bland. My first instinct is to lay the paper longways not vertical but because of the nature of the project i have to use the vertical layout. This has proven hard to recreate the feeling of vastness. Any thoughts would be very helpful.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2015/1304943-FullSizeRender_14.jpg

Still-trying
04-17-2015, 06:01 AM
You show the distance well, IMHO. The loop of road, around the tree is dead center, the nose of a sleeping giant. I'm sure you captured the scene exactly. But sometimes we have to find a way to change what will end up in the painting. You showed that you are viewing this from very high up and seeing very far into the distance

kentiessen
04-17-2015, 08:57 AM
It has the feeling of large scale and a view point above! Introducing more perspective, both in drawing and color/value will support your direction more. This would mean creating and diminishing similar elements into the distance (drawing- think of ties on a railroad track), and with graying/cooling color and value to follow that.

J.D.
04-20-2015, 10:38 PM
Thank you all for the great information. I am really outside of my comfort zone with this painting. I think that I will take what I have learned here and give it another go. :)

jackiesimmonds
04-21-2015, 03:32 AM
even tho this is an aerial shot, there is also distance from foreground to background.

Yet your darker tones, on that central part, are just as dark as your darker tones in the foreground.

to get a better sense of "front-to-back" you might find it helps to make sure that the tones gradually lighten as you move "back" in space.

J.D.
04-21-2015, 06:56 AM
I see. If I darken the foreground and maybe make the distant mountains lighter. It will better create the illusion of distance. Thank you.

jackiesimmonds
04-21-2015, 07:34 AM
No, not exactly.

At the moment, you have strong contrasts in the sky, and strong contrasts for that central area, look:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Apr-2015/1805-aerialgreyscale.jpg

the dark trees surrounding the bit of land in the centre of the ox-bow river shape, comes forward, like a nose on a face, and this is because of the contrasts you have there.

If you reduce the contrasts as we go back in space, you get more of a sense of recession and more aerial perspective.

Here is where the main issues are:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Apr-2015/1805-aerial2.jpg

Now this is only a photoshop overlay, so it doesnt work very well but you dont get the jutting forward effect in the centre any more, and the sky has stopped coming forwards with strong contrasts too:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Apr-2015/1805-aerial3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Apr-2015/1805-aerial_3_greyscale.jpg

HOWEVER, I STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS and having done these work-overs, I have identified what it is that is troubling me.
At the moment, you have a mixture of "distant landscape" and "aerial scene", and maybe the mix of the two doesn't work as well, pictorially, as choosing one or the other. You have one half of the picture...sky and mountains, with nice horizontal flow; then you have a patterned lower half of the picture, with strong curves and angles. I am not sure this works pictorially, I think you have two differently styles of picture going on within one rectangle.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Apr-2015/1805-aerial_split.jpg

Aerial scenes of this kind might work better WITHOUT trying to achieve this sense of distance. Perhaps it is more about strong patterns in the landscape...........? In which case, that is perhaps something worth concentrating on.

J.D.
04-21-2015, 08:30 AM
I think I am beginning to get it. I'm a little slow sometimes:) When I get back to my Easel I will set down a rework some of this. Or maybe it might be better to start over, so that I can reexamine the composition. You have given me a lot to think about, and I appreciate it. Thank you.

jackiesimmonds
04-21-2015, 09:46 AM
yes you are right. I have given you a lot to think about. Hope not too much. This painting lark is not easy a lot of the time, since there is so much to deal with and think about.

Scottyarthur
04-21-2015, 10:04 PM
It is a good start, Depth, and atmosphere. Add more color. I am sure if you really study the photo or better yet the real thing you will find that all the colors of the rainbow are there.

Drbear
04-22-2015, 08:01 AM
Make sure you read through Don's awesome April Spotlight! My first thought was you need to make your distant greens cooler but that's only bc Don taught me that😀 I like the winding road and aerial perspective!

J.D.
04-23-2015, 09:58 PM
Jackie: Not too much to think about. Just exactly what I needed.
Scottyarthur: Thank you. Yes it needs more variety of color. It is a little monotonous.
Debear: I read through the spotlight, and found it very helpful. :) Don's lessons are always so well put together and informative. :)
Now, it is time to put all this together into a painting:crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers: