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llis
09-25-2003, 08:11 AM
Be sure to visit the Library which is a sub forum of the Pastel Forum.

You can find this by looking at the very top of the Main Pastel Forum or follow this link. WC! Pastel Library (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=65)

If you find a thread that is not listed and you think it should be, just add it to this list and we will work on it.

Also be sure to rate any thread that you find useful. Once a thread reaches a high rating, it will be automatically moved to the library where we can continue to reply and add information.

llis
09-25-2003, 10:54 AM
Add yours or make suggestions. :) I'll edit.

jackiesimmonds
09-25-2003, 11:24 AM
for techniques:

BROKEN COLOUR (as opposed to blending):
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60061

For demos:

Still life with fruits
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57331

Van Gogh Practice Piece
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64210

For wherever you want to put it- "a possible sequence for pastel painting"
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111546

asnd I think this was a really good thread for beginners, with lots of contributions from many experienced artists:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100287

and here was an interesting thread about clouds and skies
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100287


and this one about colour by value was good too:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96561&highlight=colour%20as%20tone

Mo.
09-25-2003, 12:09 PM
Some Links for WIP's:-


WIP Frog No.2

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54266

Barn Owl WIP

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78972


Rocks and Watch WIP

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81806

Jester.WIP

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83583

Done... Thanks Mo!

llis
09-25-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by jackiesimmonds

and here was an interesting thread about clouds and skies
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100287




Got all of your except this one. I think the link just went crazy.

Mo.
09-25-2003, 03:28 PM
I'm still searching llis...... found this excellent demo from MikeN...tried to talk him into making an article of this thread, but I think he's way too busy.... it's a must for the demo's:-

Step by Step


http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121045


This is a very useful thread in the use of the colour green for foliage, something lots struggle with.

Greeeeennnns Helllllpppppp!!!!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122994

This is a good thread on the various brands of pastels and peoples preferences.


Which pastel brand do you prefer


http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12814

I'll keep looking. :)

Dyin
09-25-2003, 05:20 PM
bumping up here, think I understand...are you going to do an oil pastel section? Or leave it to the sticky? Seems I'm asking a lot of questions and not helping at all lol! Give me a direction...OP info, more WIPs of interest?

soap
09-25-2003, 05:38 PM
Love this! Excellent stuff. Clear and easy to find things!. I understand this will go into the Library itself before it gets buried in the forum.

:clap: :clap:

Dyin
09-25-2003, 06:00 PM
using a pastel/water technique

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118775&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

velour paper fixing and shipping

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128684&highlight=velour%20fixing%20pastel

This is a start, from my favorites folder. Do we want links to other sites, such as the oil pastel info site by
John Elliot, suppliers etc?

PegR
09-25-2003, 06:13 PM
Wow, Ilis, you work fast! I'm glad I checked here before I sent you my suggested system. My only comment is that there should be some indication of the differences between soft pastels and oil pastels, and provide a link to the oil pastels sticky.

Unless, of course, we decide to add information about oil pastels to this library. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Peg

llis
09-25-2003, 06:30 PM
Yes, the oil pastel questions and answers will be in the index too. There are some oil pastel threads mixed in right now with the soft pastel stuff that will need to come out. I have a place written in at the bottom of the index for oil pastels...with nothing in it yet.

llis
09-25-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Dyin
using a pastel/water technique

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118775&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

velour paper fixing and shipping

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128684&highlight=velour%20fixing%20pastel

This is a start, from my favorites folder. Do we want links to other sites, such as the oil pastel info site by
John Elliot, suppliers etc?

I don't see a problem with making a links section. :)

Mo.
09-25-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by PegR
My only comment is that there should be some indication of the differences between soft pastels and oil pastels, and provide a link to the oil pastels sticky.


Peg

An icon maybe to differentiate between the two?

Mo.:)

Dyin
09-25-2003, 06:56 PM
shoot, will try this again....links to pastel sites and info...

Holbein home page

http://www.holbeinhk.com/


juried competition page artshow.com

http://www.artshow.com/juriedshows/index.htm
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International Association of Pastel Societies

http://pastelinternational.com/faqs/


Pastel Journal

http://www.pasteljournal.com/


about pastels link

http://painting.about.com/msub37.htm?once=true&


International Artist magazine

http://www.international-artist.com/default.htm


Dakota Art pastels

http://www.dakotapastels.com/special_sale.shtml


oil pastel info from John Elliot

http://www.johnelliot.com/ques.htm


links to pastel sites from Pastel Journal

http://www.pasteljournal.com/links.htm


oil pastelist website links

http://www.opai.org/web.htm

llis
09-25-2003, 07:51 PM
Thanks Dyin... I'll work on this list tomorrow. I see you have some oil pastel threads in there. Good job.

Dyin
09-25-2003, 07:54 PM
lol...so many threads on this library...I have a HUGE list coming on ops...divided up like the example above...ok, it's not huge, but am getting a few good links...will post later after I get a few more...so OPs will have a good basic start to be added to...

Dyin
09-25-2003, 08:20 PM
ok....here's what I have for OP's...got back a little far and there was a lot of mis-leading info...hope other OPer's will add to this list when it's up....oh...added a couple good soft pastel threads I found while I was searching...



OIL PASTEL INFO

MATERIALS & EQUIPMENT:


COLORS & CHARTS

a Holbein oil pastel chart in WIP
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133765&highlight=oil%20pastel


PAPER/SUPPORTS



FIXATIVES:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114567&highlight=oil%20pastel


TECHNIQUES & METHODS

heating oil pastels for printmaking
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111810&highlight=oil%20pastel

soft pastel over oil pastel
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85113&highlight=oil%20pastel

scratching on black paper
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80333&highlight=oil%20pastel

advice on composition and OPs
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64211&highlight=oil%20pastel

info on basic palette/technique and lessons online
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20810&highlight=oil%20pastel

different styles using OPs
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21301&highlight=oil%20pastel


WIPS

OP portrait (Pirates of the Carribean)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126465&highlight=oil%20pastel

using turps with OPs (Andy)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133171&highlight=oil%20pastel

Rhododendrum
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104999&highlight=oil%20pastel

oil pastel on masonite (KarenU)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85113&highlight=oil%20pastel

DEMOS


FRAMING


BACKGROUNDS


TOOLS

pastel shaping/blenders (soft and oil pastel use)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80213&highlight=oil%20pastel


HEALTH & SAFETY

allergy questions (for both soft and oil)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111586&highlight=oil%20pastel


****OTHER SOFT PASTEL LINKS

toning Wallis paper
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132245&highlight=oil%20pastel

preparing paper
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131837&highlight=oil%20pastel

where to buy glassine
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128474&highlight=oil%20pastel

pastel carrying cases
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110247&highlight=oil%20pastel

pastels with water
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93807&highlight=oil%20pastel

jackiesimmonds
09-26-2003, 05:45 AM
Ilis - not sure where you would put this but could be useful:

maybe "tips"?
http://painting.about.com/cs/pastels/

and this is a list of FAQ's all in one place which people might find helpful

http://www.marielydiejoffre.com/english/resource/faq_pastel.html


Also - just a thought here Ilis and Carly .... I for one have produced SIX pastel art instruction videos, and two books, one of which has proved so popular that it is in its third reprint,( she said, boasting a bit but why not, I am rather proud.) Obviously, there are other pastellists around who have produced other pastel videos and books. Could it be useful to have a list of books and videos specific to pastels, perhaps with links to where people can buy them if they want to?

jackiesimmonds
09-27-2003, 03:34 AM
moderators .......there seem to be a few threads all about the new library - couldn't they all be put together into one, cos it gets confusing!

llis
09-27-2003, 05:36 AM
Just locked the others as they were just questions about the library.

All suggestions for additions to the library should go here... or better still, if you find a thread that is most helpful to you, use the link at the bottom of the thread to vote and give the thread a high ranking.

All high ranking threads will be moved to the library where we can continue to discuss them.

jackiesimmonds
09-27-2003, 06:12 AM
re my comment in this thread, which you guys are probably thinking about, I thought I would enlarge on it. I think it could be a good heading..perhaps call it "teaching resources".

There is a company in the UK called Teaching Art, and they have a range of instruction videos on pastels. They can provide these videos in both PAL and NTSC format, and they are cheaper than most.

Here are some of the titles - you may recognise some of the artists' names:

Draw & Paint Cats course in pastel - Colin Bradley
Tips and Techniques using Pastel pencils - Colin Bradley
Painting Figures and Animals with Confidence - Margaret Evans
Lets Paint Pastel - Margaret Evans
Discovering Animals Figures and Portraits - Margaret Evans
Discovering Landscapes in Pastel - Margaret Evans
Pastel Landscapes 1 - Rev Paul Hardy (associate member of PSA)
Pastel Landscapes 2 - Rev Paul Hardy
Drawing with Pastel - Gail Price
Drawing and Painting People Parts 1 & 2 - John Raynes (I highly recommend this guy- I have his books, they are wonderful)
Colourshaper video -Michael Sanders


then they have my vids, but WC members can get them at a discount direct from me:

Learn to Paint Flowers in pastels
Pastels Workshop 1
Pastels Workshop 2
Learn to Paint Gardens
Pastel Workout 1
Pastel Workout 2 - Colour and Light

There are other companies who offer pastel videos, and if you want me to, I can pass on some of the names.

Teaching art is www.teachingart.co.uk, and my vids, with explanations of what they are about, can be found on my website www.jackiesimmonds.co.uk, tho you should take no notice of the prices there.

Then, to add more to the "teaching resources" section of the index, people could let you know about books, and courses, and painting holidays where the tutor is a pastellist .....and so on.

Jackie

llis
09-27-2003, 02:44 PM
Jackie: Not to sure I can do this without violating our advertising policy. Putting this great information in a thread is one thing, but to have it in a permanent place might not fly. I'll see what I can do to get it approved. Don't know.

Dyin
09-27-2003, 02:56 PM
llis...what if it was listed as source links with a disclaimer? Put WC advertisers at the top...it's not an endorsement, just a way for us to find different things that may not be easy to find....

jackiesimmonds
09-28-2003, 03:55 AM
well it is in a sitcky thread now!!!!

Dont want to get anyone into trouble, but it seems sensible, to me, as Sue says, for people to be able to access ALL available info, and this IS teaching info.

Whatever you decide is OK with me

Jackie

llis
09-28-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by jackiesimmonds
well it is in a sitcky thread now!!!!

Dont want to get anyone into trouble, but it seems sensible, to me, as Sue says, for people to be able to access ALL available info, and this IS teaching info.

Whatever you decide is OK with me

Jackie

:( This sticky thread will go away once we have the index done. It's a working thread only.

Can't provide free permanent space for sites that sell products as it would violate our advertising policy and just wouldn't be fair to others who do use this site by paying for advertising. It's a struggle to keep this site on line and Scott is just asking all of us to use the same rules for everyone.

It's always great to share resources, but so much better to contact them and ask if they could support this site by purchasing ad space.

At least that's the way it is right now. Who knows, things might change and if it does, I'll be glad to put up a resource list. I think it's a great idea.

jackiesimmonds
09-30-2003, 04:44 AM
Hey Illis, just to let you know that the Library has proved its worth this morning. I wanted to offer up a thread to someone, and went to the library, and found it right away. Brilliant! Just so you know that all your hard work is worthwhile. Thanks so much.
Jackie

CarlyHardy
09-30-2003, 02:58 PM
The oil pastel sticky thread is now in the library. Llis I didn't know if it was part of the index or not, so I left it a sticky until I made sure!

Now we'll just have monthly projects as sticky's...so the top of the forum won't be so cluttered!
Thanks everyone for all the help with the index...let's give Llis a big cheer

YEA LLIS :clap: :clap: :clap:

Mo.
09-30-2003, 05:15 PM
Fantastic job!! WELL DONE LLIS!!
:clap::clap: :clap:

Mo.:)

Dyin
09-30-2003, 07:06 PM
WOOOOHOOOO Llis!!!!! Great job!!!!!!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

Mo.
10-21-2003, 07:04 AM
Hi llis! Here's two more starred threads for the library, both containing very helpful information.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96561

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100287

Mo.:)