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Trier
02-07-2014, 04:03 PM
Trying to figure out that push-pull thing, cubism, and wishing I could draw like Dufy.

Next?
Put the Pope or some Great Leader on the balcony?
Dress up the lower doors like Notre Dame?
Something from the Doge's Palace in Venice?
Put in a VanGogh sky/sun?
More dark division lines?
More arches/circles somewhere?
Eliminate the blue multitude below?

16x14 acrylic on paper
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0188BalconyDarkWC.JPG
C&C

Regards,
Trier

birdhs
02-07-2014, 08:25 PM
squint this to reduce it to values and masses and I think you might see that the bottom is dark, the side building on the left is too big and the balcony is crooked and very bright, the composition does not work, nor do the values.

but none of that matters if you want it that way.

seems confoosed, as if it is trying to achieve some degree of realism whilst trying to be an abstract

will be watching to see what you decide

greggo

Trier
02-07-2014, 09:34 PM
Hey Greggo - Thanks for your valuable critque and interest. Very helpful.

You are dead right when you say I was trying to have some degree of realism in an abstract attempt. I think I want to keep the balcony bright (holy, you know), but maybe not quite as much.

Back to the battle. Will post results, or photo of ashes, in this thread.

Regards,
Trier

lazyrider
02-08-2014, 10:33 AM
You've got a lot of ideas going there Trier.
For me, I wouldn't put a figure in there.
Depending on what you want to portray,
an empty balcony could present a little intrigue.

phil

Ishka Baha
02-08-2014, 02:26 PM
I think I have to agree with Phil. I really like the colours you chose.

Trier
02-08-2014, 05:04 PM
Thanks Nikki & Phil- Glad to have your input/advice, appreciated, and I agree about leaving out the figure.

Was going to gesso out much of it and just use a few big shapes, but decided to see how far I could go with a more detailed, Surreal,approach since the Cubism thing didn't work.

4 stages, tell me when I should have stopped
1http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0191BalconySteps1WC.JPG

2http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0192BalcnySteps2WC.JPG

3http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0193BalcnyStep3WC.JPG

4http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0194BalcnyStep4WC.JPG

Funny how looking through the camera lets you see things you couldn't see before.

Thanks to all-

Regards,
Trier

birdhs
02-08-2014, 05:39 PM
Keep going, but just enuf to lighten the red/black hole at the botom.

In lieu of sqinticating, which gives me a headache, I just hit ctrl+ - (minus or dash, right end of numbers on top) and reduce these down to where they are very tiny. I still feel the eye is drawn to below the balcony instead of staring at the balcony door in anticipation of Elvis suddenly being there in real life.

He is alive!
I knew it

I really love this last one except for that darkiness

greggo

Trier
02-08-2014, 10:03 PM
Back again with version #5
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0197BalcnyStrp5WC.JPG
Thanks greggo and all, this has been very educational.

Regards,
Trier

birdhs
02-08-2014, 11:23 PM
well now I like it better...but do you?
No matter what my opinions may be, you are the artist, and you alone may make the final call.

any one else got 2 cents to throw into the pot?

davefriend
02-09-2014, 02:47 AM
The changes are all so subtle it is hard to distinguish the differences. I like the brighter colors in #4 but I suspect that is more the photo rather than changes in color of the painting. The more you do the more you will know.

Trier
02-09-2014, 05:09 PM
Thanks Dave & greggo. Yeah, I like it better, but its still a WIP.

Here is a not so subtle shift in the direction of simple,
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Feb-2014/89990-DSCN0202Balcny6M2WCJPG.jpg
more C&C of course

Regards,
Trier