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jscottb
10-27-2013, 02:47 PM
I just don't know where to go from here. I think I have over darkened the foreground and muddied the side of the lighthouse. Should have quit when I was ahead. Will take any advice on how to correct before I put this one away.
12x16" on 140# Arches. WN paints.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Oct-2013/1387153-point_lookout.jpg

From this reference photo:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Oct-2013/1387153-Point_Lookout.jpg

LynnM
10-27-2013, 02:59 PM
I like what you did with this reference very much Scott. Since you have the rest of the painting fairly high key I think you are right the foreground is dark. You could just dampen and blot carefully to reduce the pigment. The lighthouse looks fine to me, you have been looking at it too long! Nice handling of the watercolour.

Yorky
10-27-2013, 03:42 PM
Maybe the foreground is a little heavy, yes. I noticed the perspective on the right side of the building is a little off, should slope more.

Doug

jscottb
10-27-2013, 03:50 PM
Lynn, thanks. I tried to lighten it up, but got back in and put a bunch back. Doug, which building? The lighthouse? The side of the building or the roof?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Oct-2013/1387153-point_lookout_3.jpg

Yorky
10-27-2013, 03:54 PM
I was thinking the front of the building with the steps. It may be a slight tilt of the photo to the left.

Doug

jscottb
10-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Good Lord. I just realized I titled this Lookput, not Lookout. Oh, well. Not much difference in the painting despite the name, I guess.

Cyntada
10-27-2013, 10:53 PM
Your painting looks much better than the reference photo. Big improvement with the change in the foreground... I like it a lot!

Yorky
10-28-2013, 02:05 AM
OK I corrected the title.

Doug

pjartwc
10-28-2013, 06:12 AM
Hi Scott, Really like this. You might want to darken the roof at the top a little to get more contrast. The rocks look better lightened. To get a better idea if you have the right angle on a building or anything, put a straight edge to your reference and check to see if your drawing has the same angle.

jscottb
10-28-2013, 07:57 AM
Doug, thanks for changing the title. Jan, thanks for the advice.

Cyntada, when I first got to that park, I was struck by all the interesting stuff that was hidden behind the chain link fence. The whole area needed some care, so I decided to do it with brushes.

Now, I really like the scene, so I think I will do it again, given the advice here and the knowledge I gained painting it. Maybe it will come out better next time. It is not that I don't like this one, I just think this composition deserves a better execution.

I will have to ask though, did anyone notice the mother and child walking on the path? I am terrified of putting people in paintings as I have ruined more than one by doing so. I am trying to force myself to add them where appropriate, so I put them way down the path as to not to induce too much risk.

noge
10-28-2013, 10:43 AM
:wave: Check the roof of the left hous please
ist made from 2 triangle sharps and 2 trapezoids :wave:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Walmdach.png

jscottb
10-28-2013, 10:55 AM
:wave: Check the roof of the left hous please
ist made from 2 triangle sharps and 2 trapezoids :wave:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Walmdach.png

Thanks. I had noticed that before. The ridge line of the roof should continue towards the back of the building until it intersects with the lighthouse spire, before making its descent to the corner. Also, the ridge line on the building on the right does not descend according to natural perspective. Next time...

springbaby
10-28-2013, 01:51 PM
I did notice the people that you added to your painting. Well done. While you are fixing the place up, could you straighten the light poles? I know that they are crooked in the reference but people enjoying your art won't necessarily see the reference! Also, if the light is coming from the right, you could take the opportunity of darkening the grasses at the side of and behind the house. Also notice in the reference that not all the windows are dark some are actually light. Some variation there would help take some of the emphasis away from the windows. Also you might notice how much deeper the shadow is under the porch in the reference picture. Another opportunity to add some darks on or around the main building. I look forward to seeing what you do in the next painting of this scene.

Thanks for sharing. It always helps to see the reference and the painting. I always need lots of help changing references.

Gail

janinco
10-28-2013, 07:52 PM
Scott, I think it looks great. I don't mind some tilting or not-quite-perfect perspective if the subject is drawing me in...I see it plenty even in professional paintings. I agree about darkening the roofs a bit (it looks like the middle one is a bit darker in the reference and the edge on the large building).

I would like to see something in the upper right to keep me moving through the painting. I think the two birds in the reference photo would be a nice touch.

Jan

jscottb
10-30-2013, 09:45 AM
Completed and moved to this thread in the Watercolor Gallery (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19839170#post19839170). Thanks for everyone's help. If I did not make your suggestions, it was only because it would have required a whole new painting, which I reserve for another day.

bluegenes
11-03-2013, 08:01 AM
I thought the original painting was just fine!

Patty