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robertsloan2
10-16-2013, 04:34 PM
A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Gourds In Pastels
Project Leader: robertsloan2
Relative Difficulty: Irrelevant
Type Restrictions: Painting
Medium: Pastels
Subject: Other
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

ArtistMelinda posted a series of 14 reference photos of gourds at this link: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1331657 and with her permission, I'm setting up this project for everyone to enjoy painting them in pastels. The link is also listed as Reference Link #1.

It's open for everyone on WC to join, just paint gourds from one or more of these photos with or without their bowls or any other still life element. Have fun with them, combine them, do them in realism or abstract hem or impressionist with wild colors, just do one or more of these gourds in pastels and post them to the project!

ArtistMelinda started it, I'm robertsloan2 assisting in a technical sense. Of course I'll participate too! Jump on in!

Additional Information:

For more information on the project: Click here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_details&proj_id=1703)

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

Tamlyn
10-17-2013, 07:33 PM
Hi Robert and Melinda

I just joined this project on gourds.:wave: I have never done a WC Project before but this looked like fun. One question and one concern.

concern :cool:: The link to this project that is found on the left hand side of some of the pages under "Project Showcase" doesn't work. if you click on "Gourds in Pastel" it says
"Invalid project! This message may also appear if the project you selected has not yet been approved by an administrator."

I had to go to the "More" link and then I found it listed with a couple of others. May be why others haven't signed up yet.

Question :wink2:: Do we only use the pictures that are provided? I have some cool gourds that I purchased from the Grocery store that I would like to paint too. Just curious if I can submit them also.

-thanks
Tamlyn

robertsloan2
10-17-2013, 07:51 PM
It's been approved. I guess you could use other gourds pictures, I don't see why not. Makes sense to me! Try painting some of them from life. This is about gourds, the photos are more of a starting point!

I still have to do mine but I am thrilled to see you joined!

Here is a live link to the thread where the original gourds photos are posted: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1331657 - they're all beautiful but there's no reason you couldn't use your own photos or your own gourds from life. Enjoy!

*Deirdre*
10-27-2013, 06:08 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104049


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/progress/156805/tn_delete.jpg

I love the balance in this picture, it's so well chosen....almost abstract in its design...very well done Nell!

robertsloan2
11-03-2013, 07:30 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104049


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/progress/156805/tn_delete.jpg

This is gorgeous! Love the shapes and twists and turns. One moment it looks abstract and the next I recognize the subjects and it's so true. Love the close-up look. That reference looked too complicated to me but this painting's incredible. Great way to simplify it. Beautiful balance.

NRC
11-03-2013, 08:38 PM
Thank you Deidre & Robert for your kind comments. Figured I'd post a progress shot and get us started; looking forward to seeing what others are doing with the gourds.

wilhelm
07-29-2014, 03:49 PM
I was intrigued by the subject. So being new to this medium of pastels, I signed up to have a go.

Here is my humble efforts I hope to get some good help from this.

The first effort was more of an exploratory sortie. I used a piece of scrap paper, I found that surface difficult to manage as the texture had to many deep depressions.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jul-2014/1483957-rsz_1rsz_1rsz_cimg3375.jpg


I do not know the name of the paper, you may recognize it from the photograph.

The next two photographs are of a renewed effort on a smother paper.

I must ask my supplier for the names of the papers, here am I showing my inexperience.

No matter, I am a trier and will overcome these issues. Here is my final submitted pictures.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jul-2014/1483957-rsz_cimg3373.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jul-2014/1483957-rsz_1rsz_1cimg3374.jpg .


Before anyone notices I have changed the bowl from round to oval. I lost a little focus in doing this part, hope it's ok. Tom :crossfingers:

robertsloan2
07-29-2014, 04:45 PM
Oh these are beautiful! I do recognize the pattern of the paper. Canson Mi-Tientes is a good pastel paper, but the "wove" side with that texture is very strong. It doesn't look bad to me but I can see why it frustrates you. I usually use the smooth side. You can tell which is which by streaking a pastel over the edge on one side, if it doesn't break up you're on the smooth side. I get it in pads and the wove side is the top side so I don't keep my art in the pads, just pull off a sheet when I use one.

It comes in 60 colors and is a beautiful paper, just has that annoying texture. It can be cool working on the wove side if I'm going large and want to use that for broken color but that's more in certain types of things. Not the kind of realism you're doing.

They all look good, even the first one! I like the way you changed the bowl shape. No reason not to make changes in the photo to improve the painting. Your shapes and textures are beautiful. You worked big and included so many of the little complexities in the gourds, I love it. I like the composition of your earlier sketch too and even with the wove texture, it looks good. Cool study of a single gourd on the photo with it.

Your works are big and ambitious, gorgeous color and great planning. Keep going! Just check which side of the paper you work on because Mi-Tientes does have that texture and it's almost a signature. Ingres has little lines across it instead, many pastel papers have a texture inherent to it that's hard to fill.

When I work on black or dark it sometimes helps to let the paper shine through and brighten colors.

wilhelm
07-30-2014, 11:30 AM
Oh these are beautiful! I do recognize the pattern of the paper. Canson Mi-Tientes is a good pastel paper, but the "wove" side with that texture is very strong. It doesn't look bad to me but I can see why it frustrates you. I usually use the smooth side. You can tell which is which by streaking a pastel over the edge on one side, if it doesn't break up you're on the smooth side. I get it in pads and the wove side is the top side so I don't keep my art in the pads, just pull off a sheet when I use one.

It comes in 60 colors and is a beautiful paper, just has that annoying texture. It can be cool working on the wove side if I'm going large and want to use that for broken color but that's more in certain types of things. Not the kind of realism you're doing.

They all look good, even the first one! I like the way you changed the bowl shape. No reason not to make changes in the photo to improve the painting. Your shapes and textures are beautiful. You worked big and included so many of the little complexities in the gourds, I love it. I like the composition of your earlier sketch too and even with the wove texture, it looks good. Cool study of a single gourd on the photo with it.

Your works are big and ambitious, gorgeous color and great planning. Keep going! Just check which side of the paper you work on because Mi-Tientes does have that texture and it's almost a signature. Ingres has little lines across it instead, many pastel papers have a texture inherent to it that's hard to fill.

When I work on black or dark it sometimes helps to let the paper shine through and brighten colors.

Wow, what can I say your comments and support are more than I could possibly wish for, thank you again.

That Mi-Tientes, works exactly as you describe.

I did use this paper in the picture of the horses head in the 'Long And Winding Road'. It took forever to get the finish I wanted, but I stuck with it and got a reasonable result.

I am now trying to move onto animals/wildlife and am working on a portrait of a dog.

I shall for additional exercise, continue with the gourdes between works.

I found an excitement working with such bold colours(colors) an area in which I want to continue.

Thank you again Tom :) Drawn more and more into the world of pastels.

*Deirdre*
07-30-2014, 12:17 PM
Wilhelm, you should really upload your entry via the project, as it is designed so that when people comment on your picture, your picture is automatically uploaded with their comment. I'll wait for you to do that, and them comment.:D

wilhelm
07-31-2014, 08:50 PM
Wilhelm, you should really upload your entry via the project, as it is designed so that when people comment on your picture, your picture is automatically uploaded with their comment. I'll wait for you to do that, and them comment.:D

I do apologize, but I still feeling my way around the site.

I hope that I have now restored my work to the correct area.

Before comment I know I did make an error with one of my intermediate pictures.

I pressed 'complete' on the intermediate painting and it shows in the completed list. Sorry, I shall take more care in the future. Tom :o

*Deirdre*
08-01-2014, 06:45 AM
I do apologize, but I still feeling my way around the site.

I hope that I have now restored my work to the correct area.

Before comment I know I did make an error with one of my intermediate pictures.

I pressed 'complete' on the intermediate painting and it shows in the completed list. Sorry, I shall take more care in the future. Tom :o
No need to look so sad Tom....we ALL do it....but then we try not to!:lol:

*Deirdre*
08-01-2014, 06:51 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104452


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/completed/1483957/rsz1rsz1cimg3374.jpg
I like this a lot Tom...so hard to get the right greens together, especially in these strange shapes...well, gourds do have strange shapes, that's part of their charm...and I like what you've done with these - a lot!:thumbsup:

*Deirdre*
08-01-2014, 06:55 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104450


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/completed/1483957/rsz1rsz1rszcimg3375.jpg
I like these as well! Even though they are preparatory, they do stand alone on their own merit...and I think the bubbly paper ( Canson Mi Tientes I think) adds to the effect.:thumbsup:

wilhelm
08-01-2014, 08:03 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104450


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/completed/1483957/rsz1rsz1rszcimg3375.jpg
I like these as well! Even though they are preparatory, they do stand alone on their own merit...and I think the bubbly paper ( Canson Mi Tientes I think) adds to the effect.:thumbsup:

Thank you Deirdre for you welcome words of support.

I am glad I have not been sent to the naughty corner.

With the comments from yourself and Robertsloan regarding the Mi Tientes, very supportive, I will work away on them between projects and come back with a finished composition. Thanks again Tom :clap:

*Deirdre*
08-14-2014, 05:46 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=104454


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1703/completed/1483957/rsz1rszdscf1843.jpg
This is so good! I like the cohesiveness of the composition, it works very well! Nice finish:thumbsup:

robertsloan2
10-18-2014, 12:49 AM
Gorgeous painting. I love the softness and the balanced composition. You got it all to pull together so well and the greens are wonderful.

Blayne
10-18-2014, 07:29 AM
That's a great composition, and a beautiful painting!