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samben84
10-09-2013, 10:32 AM
This is 20x16 on 140# Arches with WN & MaimeriBlu paints, pen and a bit of gouache. The photo references (I used a three, I think) were taken in the morning of the first day of autumn. I had to use my imagination on some of it because there were tents set up around the area for the annual Cane Hill Crafts Festival. It was bright and sunny and the air was clear and crisp.

This building is the Cane Hill College, the photo taken from the east. It is the first college in Arkansas, and is about a mile from where I live as the crow flies.

Tell me what your first thoughts are. I'm thinking I'm falling short on the dark tree shadows on the foreground. I'm also thinking about repainting the sky a lighter, brighter blue. I'm sure I'll notice more as I think about it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9199c.JPG

Here are the photos I used as references. As you can see, I changed it up quite a bit:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9030fb.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9039c.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9048c.JPG

Bluesman
10-09-2013, 11:16 AM
I think casting some soft shadows on the building from the foreground tree would add some realism. As a decorative work its beautiful.
Just my 2 cents.
John

LynnM
10-09-2013, 11:33 AM
I think you've done a beautiful job on this! Lots of changes of perspective managed well. I agree it needs something more, but I'm not sure you can mix naturalistic effects with the decorative approach you have taken. I hope someone with more experience can help here. I like the blue sky as it is :) Maybe the brickwork can be darker?

Yorky
10-09-2013, 02:42 PM
The building is fine but the shadows are inconsistent. All the shadows on the front elevation indicate the sun is front left, but neither the building nor the flagpole show any shadow. The shadow from the chimney is at odds with the other shadows. If it was correct all the front elevation would be in shadow.

Something like this would be more consistent.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/1046-AACollegelkj.jpg

Doug

olliewood0702
10-09-2013, 03:01 PM
Nicely done, Doug's suggestions on the shadows is good. I like the sky the way it is. I like the changes you made, nice job.

RWSewell
10-09-2013, 04:56 PM
I agree with Doug's shadow suggestions as well. Not only does it break up the brick fascade but it gives the structure weight and volumn and accentuates the brickwork nicely. My first inclination was to say lighten the sky some and since that was one of your own crits I'll stand by that.

A minor crit: seen from this view, the roof of the southern (left) wing would probably show less of an angle but since your reference photos don't show that you made a good guess.

I really enjoy your architecture paintings. I hope you have an opportunity to display this soon.

:) Rob

P.S. I love how you painted the flags. Nice detail.

samben84
10-09-2013, 05:34 PM
Thank you all.

John, yes, I agree. Those shadows are the bane of my existence right now.

Thank you, Darla.

Doug - Thanks for taking the time with the shadows for me. I went back through my photos and came up with one that sort of shows the shadow for the chimney. It is closer to what you came up with. I also noticed the shadows for the eaves should have been considerably larger. I also went back through my photos and found what I could of the actual building's shadows. The shadow is crooked because there is a definite hill there. Not sure if it reads that way. I hope this looks a bit more consistent. I appreciate the help

I added more shadows in front, but didn't add as many on the building because the way I painted it, it looks like the trees are further away to me.

Also, the bell tower in the distance looked like it was floating, so I grounded it a bit. It was also pointed out to me that I had the perspective by the steps off and I should be seeing the inside of the right wall a bit, so I tried to fix that a bit, also.

Rob, I'm still debating the sky. I think I'll sleep on it. As for the roofline on the south, you could be right. I took several photos and I moved between them, so I am mixing them all up, trying to make sense of it. Actually, the part on the right, as we are looking at it, doesn't show at all in my photo. I added that because people who know the building would be expecting something there. Thanks for your comments on the flag. I think that part did turn out pretty good.

I hope I caught everything.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9204c.JPG

RWSewell
10-09-2013, 07:41 PM
After some consideration of my own, I say keep the sky as is. Your improvements really pulled this piece together.

:) Rob

Yorky
10-10-2013, 02:11 AM
A great improvement.

Doug

samben84
10-10-2013, 10:12 AM
Thank you, both! I think I'll start on something new now.

LynnM
10-10-2013, 01:33 PM
Excellent Sandy!

samben84
10-10-2013, 02:01 PM
Thanks, Lynn!

I thought I'd just throw this one in for good measure. Sorry about the reflections.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Oct-2013/23870-DSCF9208wc.JPG

RWSewell
10-10-2013, 05:35 PM
If it doesn't sell beforehand you should approach someone in the Cane Hill College administrative staff and see if there's interest in purchasing this or at the least accepting this as a gift. I could see this hanging in the foyer...with your name displayed underneath. Thinking out loud...:)

:) Rob

Cyntada
10-11-2013, 11:09 PM
What a finish! I am a little late to the party here, but will throw this in for future reference. Skies nearly always lighten up toward the horizon; that's the only nit I'd pick in this lovely piece.

Honestly, I'm so captivated by the shadows and glasswork, not even looking at the sky anymore :D

samben84
10-14-2013, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the encouragement, Rob. I really am not sure what to do. I'll probably just use it as an example of the changes I want to make next time.

Cyntada, I agree about the sky, and I thought about it while I was painting it, but I did it all wet on dry with no masking, so I didn't really have much time. It's pretty rough, but I just pretend that was what I planned all along. :)

Bluesman
10-14-2013, 11:45 AM
This is an awesome work well done!