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J.D.
08-07-2013, 05:36 AM
I was wondering if anyone had any info. on the lightfast rating of Gallery handmade pastels. I was thinking about getting a set but only if they are truly artist grade. It would be just terrible to spend the time doing a painting just to watch it fade over time. Their web page simply said that they are "fade resistant" but no real info. Besides that. Any help would be nice. Here is a link to their page. http://www.mungyo.co.kr/eng/pro-pastel-mphm.html

JPQ
08-08-2013, 11:45 AM
At least here their price is so high makes me really angry if there is lightfastness problems. but i also dont have info and i also want it.

J.D.
08-08-2013, 02:45 PM
At least here their price is so high makes me really angry if there is lightfastness problems. but i also dont have info and i also want it.
Yes it is very annoying that this info is not made readily available. Other ccompanies address the issue.

JPQ
08-08-2013, 09:06 PM
Yes it is very annoying that this info is not made readily available. Other ccompanies address the issue.

and i meaned when price is almost exactly same what are Sennelier,Schmicke and Unisons,(and one now discontinued handmade ones which are made some which is here where i live which have pigment based price) where i live makes me really angry.

J.D.
08-10-2013, 10:01 AM
Wow. that is a huge mark up. I wonder what their excuse is for that kind of a mark up in price???

J.D.
08-16-2013, 01:26 AM
What bothers me about them is they are made in Korea. I have a box of the hand rolled softies (nice, but not quite as soft as Unisons), and a box of half-sticks. The half sticks are quite hard for a supposedly soft pastel.

I recently threw out a box of pastels made in China. I don't trust anything made in China that is edible or where you have no guarantee that there isn't excessive amounts of toxic pigments or lead etc.

I was wondering if I ought to think the same way about pastels made in Korea, whether their standards are also dubious. If so, I will toss the half-sticks (the hand rolleds are too expensive to ditch), but am wondering what thoughts there are on this.
cheers
Donna

As I understand it, they claim to conform to the ASTM standards, so I guess that means that they are non toxic:confused: :confused: :confused: As for china, as a rule I also have stayed away from their art products.

I have a few unisons that I really like. But right now can justify the expense of buying a set of them. I seen Gallery Handmade sets and thought "there is a possibility." But I know very little about this company. I guess what I am trying to determine is whether or not the quality level of these are worthy of permeant work. or are they somewhere between artist grade and student grade pastels:confused: :confused: :confused: Any help anyone has on this is much appreciated:)

robertsloan2
08-16-2013, 11:58 AM
I got a set of them for review and like them, use them often, but I don't have the means to do lightfast testing. My window's into a light well. So I can't say for permanence on them. Their other products seem to be decent but the questions raised here about where they're made do leave me wondering.

Mettaphorica
08-20-2013, 03:04 AM
I'm with Rob - the hand rolled ones that look like Unison are nice to use. However I recently did a pastels on velour 'bang' test, which is to say I used various brands of pastel and did a few strokes on velour, then when I was finished, picked up the velour and 'banged' it on its edge to see which pastels fell of the quickest and produced the most dust. This is because i work a lot on velour and was frustrated with pastels not clinging properly, so I wanted to find out for myself which were the best and worst so that I could avoid using them in great swathes of colour.
Not surprisingly Great American and Sennelier were two big offenders (Schminke, as an aside, actually clung on better, which surprised me). The Mungyo hand-rolleds also fell off easily. This doesn't mean much except to suggest that they are very soft. Soft fluffies generally don't stick well to velour, so it does tell you that they are very soft. Which isn't so great for velour work, but other supports/surfaces love softies.

As for lightfast rating, I'm with Rob on that, too, I don't know. I do use them a fair bit though (when not on velour) and find them soft, but not as soft, as Unison. I think they are a nice pastel for the price, esp. if you can't afford Unison.
hope this helps and not confuse things
cheers

Donna

Talley
08-20-2013, 03:12 PM
I had posted this during the Great Site Hijack and it disappeared so I'll try again.

According to Jerry's Artarama, they have "the highest lightfast rating." I don't know how reliable that statement is. You can see their description here:

http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/pastels/soft-pastels/mungyo-gallery-soft-pastels-squares-and-sets/mungyo-gallery-handmade-soft-pastels.htm
And why doesn't Mungyo say that on their website?

J.D.
08-21-2013, 04:05 AM
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on this. I am so glad that the site is back up and running properly.:)
My initial fear was that they were cheaper because they used cheaper pigments. It is probably more probable that they are cheaper because of the difference in Labor costs. I don't know that for sure... Just a guess? ??

Rob
I too don't have the means of doing a lightfast test. However I was so excited to come across your review when doing a Google search. It was very very helpful. Thank you. :)

Donna
Very interesting. That is the First time I have heard of this test. So it was quite Interesting. A nice fluffy pastel with big dramatic flakes is just what I'm looking for. More and more it is seeming like this could fit the bill.

Talley
In the past all my dealings with jerry's have been positive. It is strange that the discretion on jerry's site differs from that on mungyo's. Normally they are the same or use similar wording. I am guessing that the folks at jerry's did their own research on this???

I think that I will go ahead and buy a set. And as I use them up I will replace them with unisons. That way I don't have to front the cost of a set of unisons all at once. Anyway that Is my thoughts at the moment. :)

Nicola.P
08-24-2013, 05:38 AM
In the UK they changed the name ti Inscribe. Could be worth searching them under that name?

J.D.
08-25-2013, 01:59 PM
In the UK they changed the name ti Inscribe. Could be worth searching them under that name?
Thank you. I didn't know that. I'll try same searches now and see what I come up with.:)

JustinM
08-26-2013, 03:24 PM
my own tests have shown no noticeable difference in colour going fugitive and/or fading but I have not done a "scientific" study yet. A simple swatch (with half covered) in a window for a few months has proven no noticeable difference on the 3 brands Ive tried (Rembrandt, Mungyo handmade, Conte).

JPQ
08-26-2013, 03:49 PM
JustinM: which kind hues you tested ? most problematic are often violets,purples,yellow greens,warm reds,and warm yellows and some blues.(becouse they have problematic violet or purple at least some of them).

JustinM
08-26-2013, 04:24 PM
JustinM: which kind hues you tested ? most problematic are often violets,purples,yellow greens,warm reds,and warm yellows and some blues.(becouse they have problematic violet or purple at least some of them).

I did a range (no earths) but mostly yellows, reds and blues. I'll have to see if i still have the sheet around. It was mostly for my own concerns but I should have kept it...

J.D.
08-28-2013, 04:13 AM
Justin M
Thank you for sharing that info. It help tremendously. I have used Rembrandt for a long time now and have always been satisfied with their lightfastness. So if they stack up to Rembrandt then they should be OK.
JPQ
Good point about violets. They do tend to be a problematic across the board. It seems that even Rembrandts give them a lower ratings.

ArtSavesLives
08-30-2013, 04:33 AM
In the ARTIST'S TEST KITCHEN in the August 2012 issue of Pastel Journal, Maggie Price compared Terry Ludwig's, Toison D'Or, and Mungyo Gallery Semi-hard, Extra-Fine Soft, and Handmade Soft pastels. She considered coverage, density, and purity of pigment, and the texture of the pastels, but did not discuss color-fastness. The article begins on page 16. I always felt if Maggie were willing to try something, I would not hesitate to check it out too. :)

JPQ
08-30-2013, 04:58 PM
Justin M
Thank you for sharing that info. It help tremendously. I have used Rembrandt for a long time now and have always been satisfied with their lightfastness. So if they stack up to Rembrandt then they should be OK.
JPQ
Good point about violets. They do tend to be a problematic across the board. It seems that even Rembrandts give them a lower ratings.

Even Schmincke they have problems but they generally have best ratings in violets to my eyes and Rembrandt. i dont mean brands which dont have ratings but pigment info or no pigment info. becouse pigment is not only important thing. and based them Great Americans looks have many good pigments. But is not all what we need know when we think lightfastness.

JPQ
08-30-2013, 05:09 PM
And i really have few pigments what Sennelier uses nice hues but lightfastness is very important thing at least few users.:)

J.D.
09-03-2013, 03:43 AM
In the ARTIST'S TEST KITCHEN in the August 2012 issue of Pastel Journal, Maggie Price compared Terry Ludwig's, Toison D'Or, and Mungyo Gallery Semi-hard, Extra-Fine Soft, and Handmade Soft pastels. She considered coverage, density, and purity of pigment, and the texture of the pastels, but did not discuss color-fastness. The article begins on page 16. I always felt if Maggie were willing to try something, I would not hesitate to check it out too. :)

Thank you for posting that. unfortunately don't get the pastel Journal. but I have read here book on pastel painting several times now. I too have a great respect for here opinion. I am going to give them a go:thumbsup: just need some money now:lol:

J.D.
09-03-2013, 03:50 AM
And i really have few pigments what Sennelier uses nice hues but lightfastness is very important thing at least few users.:)

when I get a set I will try to do a lightfast test of my own. I don't have the best window for it but I may be able to come up with something:confused: :confused: :confused:

Maggy B
09-08-2013, 01:55 PM
If pastel paintings are framed under Museum glass, there is 99 percent protection from ultraviolet rays. That would take care of the problem.

JPQ
09-08-2013, 11:01 PM
If pastel paintings are framed under Museum glass, there is 99 percent protection from ultraviolet rays. That would take care of the problem.

Its pricey and i think even other light is maybe problem.

jakertanner
07-16-2014, 12:00 AM
Rather than start a new thread, I figured since this is still open, I would comment. Someone over in another forum, did lightfast tests, and seems that they hold up excellent against Unisons and Rembrandts alike. Having read that, I went to a local store and got a bunch of open stocks..Paid $1.99 each..they matched the online price, which was nice..can't beat that for the extra soft handmade pastels.

robertsloan2
07-16-2014, 08:50 AM
Jake, that's great. Looking forward to seeing your results with them.

jakertanner
07-16-2014, 10:58 AM
Funny thing Robert, I got all these pastels, and papers yet hesitant to use them...lol Still looking at tutorials and what not...but i see I got to just jump in and see what combination works best for me. I'll post something when I got it..Thanks.