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tonymarzi
12-12-2000, 04:25 PM
Hi everyone,
I need some suggestions of what colors I should use. I want a renaisance type pallette. Very Limited. So far i am thinking of:
Naples yellow
Venetian Red
Prussian Blue
and then my standard earth colors.
Should I use ultramarine instead of Prussian?

-Tony

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windex
12-12-2000, 08:50 PM
Personally, I like to use one warmish and coolish of each of the primaries. Perhaps ultramarine & cerulean blue, cad red light & alizarin (or rose madder), naples yellow (or cad lemon) & cad yellow medium. For a limited palette, I try to limit earth colors.

However, starting with the colors you mentioned could be interesting, and worth a try. I think, though, that if I tried it I'd really want a warmer yellow around. I also might consider switching to a deep ultramarine (holbein makes a nice one) and maybe mix with a little bone black to approximate Prussian.

Experimenting with different palettes can be really rewarding. I'm always intrigued by how much it can change the color world of a painting.

tonymarzi
12-12-2000, 11:08 PM
Could you please tell me if the colors I listed above(Naple Yellow, Venetian red, and prussian blue) are warm or cool. I want to stay in the warm side more than the cool colors.
Does that pallette somewhat reflect the palate of the rennaisance masters? Or do you know of a more accurate one?
Also, which brand do you Like?
I would really like to buy Old Holland, but price is prohibiting.

Thanks
-Tony

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Neal Glover
12-12-2000, 11:28 PM
Have you seen the ArtSchool Online Lessons on Color Theory and Mixing (http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Color/index.html) . Several of these offer palette suggestions. In particular this lesson (http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Color/ColorMixing/Lesson4/index.html) offers a number of minimal palettes.

Go for the Old Holland or BlockX if you can scrape the money together or a little cheaper maybe Daniel Smith.


[This message has been edited by Neal Glover (edited December 12, 2000).]

kemshmi
12-13-2000, 02:29 AM
did you check the link about sample pallettes?? (above)
I know cost is an issue..but you will be happier with and produce better work with "Professional" grade..do not get student grade oils!!..get a few tubes, and when you can get a few more..
you are doing the right thing to research a little bit..but then make your choices and look for the on-line sales and clearance specials


Enjoy http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Kemshmi

tonymarzi
12-13-2000, 02:44 AM
Thanx,
I looked at the sample pallettes and they gave me an idea of the characteristics of the colors.
Basicly I want a pallette that is unique yet in line with what the old masters. I am thinking red madder and ultramarine blue. but what bout a yellow? I do not want a bright yellow like Cadmium Yellow. How about Yellow Ochre?
I definately agree with buying alittle when I can afford it than buying some cheap paints(I already did unfortunately but time to move on).


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kemshmi
12-13-2000, 03:17 AM
Right..you saw how badly the REALLY cheap paints responded..now..most brands make 3 grade of paints..student/better/professional (differet companies call the by different names..but almost all of them have the three grades)
SO..get the best..and NOT cheap ones later
get only a few, becaust they ARE expensive..THEN, buy one or two more as you go..and when you can..


"The basic set of paints is the following: "Rembrandt" oil colors: Flake White, Yellow Ochre Light, Red Ochre, Burnt Umber, Raw Umber Ivory and Lamp Black (7 Basic Colors), and 4 extra colors (when necessary) which I use in the last layers: Flake Yellow (instead of it also can be used Cadmium Yellow Deep), Madder Lake Deep, Chinese Vermilion, Prussian Blue. But be careful, use these last 4 colors very sparingly."...

I just found this little blip on-line

and here is a bit more info.. http://www.1art.com/tips.htm

try some book from your local library too..give yourself a good week to figure out what you need for what you want to do http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
you will be glad you did ...

Kemshmi

bruin70
12-13-2000, 08:34 AM
tony ....color is VERY personnal,,,,and i would not presume to tell anyone what to use. therefore, if you NEED to ask, then you need baby steps. start with a limited palette of black, white , and one color.....{M}



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"it's alright to be judgmental,,,,,,,,if you have taste"...MILT

kemshmi
12-13-2000, 07:28 PM
the above palette which I posted was not my own..it was something that I found in regards to a renaisance pallete..
and of course a goddess recognizes wisdom and ignorance, even if that may be within herself http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
with that said.., tony, Bruin knows much more about oil painting than I do..I would however add to his list 2 more colors ..giving you black, white and three primary colors

Kemshmi

bk7251
12-14-2000, 09:38 PM
Here's another interesting link about palettes.

http://www.gamblincolors.com/howtp.html#palettes

Click on the link below each palette for a list of colors.
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Barry Katz

[This message has been edited by bk7251 (edited December 14, 2000).]