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Saint Ragdoll
05-21-2013, 04:29 PM
This is driving me nuts!!! I have been lounging in bed recovering from a medical procedure and drawing all my palettes, sets etc. one set is in a kahki butternut colored cloth wrap with leather strap and buckles. The paintbox says Winsor Newton. I am sure I saw a post and a pic (on WC????) that ID'd it as General ( someone's name watercolor set, or maybe it was Colonel somebody watercolor set. 1930s or 1940s .....Not a commonly found set...
It has a black tin waterbottle ans spaces for pens, pencils and brushes as well as a couple of loops to hold ? .
I cant find my camera so hopefully the description will be enough. I have spent half the day looking on the internet using every combination of search words and nothing!!!!!!
Can anyone help me out with the name and a pic of this?

Saint Ragdoll

05-21-2013, 06:35 PM
The only one I can find is this one (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?start=297&client=firefox-a&hs=Dub&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&biw=1065&bih=517&tbm=isch&tbnid=1agrUbRI3JCXIM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-24/knightley-s-secret-cee-lo-green-tracking-jack-the-ripper-london-weekend.html&docid=NlKRJRZJ8hNCLM&imgurl=http://www.bloomberg.com/image/ir_U7QtJakzU.jpg&w=640&h=516&ei=MfabUfmaFKz70gXhxICYBw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:98,s:200,i:298&iact=rc&dur=2242&page=22&tbnh=186&tbnw=222&ndsp=16&tx=112&ty=104) Teresa. Was owned by Queen Victoria, a talented watercolourist.



Saint Ragdoll
05-21-2013, 10:29 PM
The fabric looks to be similar, rough almost burlap (hessian? ) on the outside and a lighter cotton trimmed with twill tape aroumd the edges. Pocket for the Watercolor box, small brass lable on box says, Winsor &Newton Ltd London England......pocket for a black tin water bottle( the lid says Geo Rowney co London England.long pencil shaped pockets 4 on each side of the watercolor box pocket.a couple more loops and 1 small pocket, dont know what for.
There are 3 flaps that fold in to cover the area with the paintbox etc, these flaps cold in and button. Then the whole thing folds in half and there are two leather straps with buckles to hold it all together. I M going to see if mybhubby can take a photo and upload to this thread.
I think it was here on WC that I saw a thread that hadna pic and the name of thisnkit, or it was a link to someone's blog.....
Couldnt do much of anything else today while recovering from a medical,procedure but sketch a little and surf the internet. No painting

Saint Ragdoll
05-21-2013, 10:56 PM
Here are some pictures.

M.L. Schaefer
05-21-2013, 11:37 PM
Went searching on the net too, and couldn't find anything.....but I'm thinking you could use the search: Vintage Water Colour Roll Up Kit. I'm a bit zonked today, but I did a quick search and there were lot of kits shown in Bing Images?

I hope all is going well and that you heal up soon! Take good care of yourself!

:heart: Margarete

Saint Ragdoll
05-22-2013, 12:03 AM
I tried every combo of words on Google and on the images too. No luck so far! Maybe the person who posted on WC or posted the blog link will come by. I am thinking it was a ling to a blog, someone had a kit like this.
Thanks for the good wishes, mean so much!!!!!
Saint Ragdoll

05-22-2013, 02:45 AM
Send the images to Winsor and Newton and ask them..

05-22-2013, 11:46 AM
It looks very much as a "Gunter's sketcher's hold-all".


Here's some more: http://channeling-winslow-homer.com/2010/10/28/watercolor-specific-pochade-box/

Saint Ragdoll
05-22-2013, 03:22 PM
My ipad wont read that site, written in Flash....
But the name Gunters was a clue, on a site called Channeling Winslow Homer..there is a Colonel Gunter's Sketchers Folding Waterproof Holdall.. The site says it was made by Winsor Newton but no date(What a mouthfull, imagine going into a shop and asking for this!!!) By the way, I did buy this on ebay but I did not pay $500 for it !!!!!!!now I know the name of what I am looking for I will go looking for more pics..I have a other kit I will try to post some photos of, its a Robertson travel kit. Maybe we should do a thread of old watercolor/sketching kits to add to the Handbook .
Saint Ragdoll

05-22-2013, 03:35 PM
Saint Ragdoll
Very interesting. Would like to see the Robertson field kit.

05-22-2013, 04:03 PM
The first link goes to a W&N catalogue from 1896, it can be found at the W&N website.


Saint Ragdoll
05-22-2013, 11:04 PM
My ipad cant see the old WN catalogs either .. I have a laptop And I will use it to take a look. I saw while searching WC for old paintboxes, photos of a "Turners jappaned tin paintbox" and I have that box as well.Some of the old boxes are so practical. and I wonder that WN doesnt re make them.
Saint Ragdoll

Saint Ragdoll
05-23-2013, 12:20 AM
Took a look atvthe old WN catalogs.....what an amazing resource!!! And again, cant see why they dont make some of those old designs.....
I wonder if The Little Brass Box company would make one of these old paint ox designs if asked.....
Catalog says that my kit was designed by Lt. col. Gunter...and that is the name of the cloth, waterproof canvas.Just the wrap sold for 6 shillings in 1894... The wrap with contents was priced 31.6. The contents are, 16 half pan japanned tin paint box, tube of chinese white, waterbottle with attached cup, drawing pencils, an asortment lf sable and lther brushes, a spongs, a rubber and a knife. (No pic of the knife but I would think it would be some kind of pocket knife for sharpening pencils. It is good to know what all the pockets and loops in mybkit are for.....
It would be easy for anyone interested to make a cloth case for thier plein air/travel,kit. I remember in "How to keep a sketchbook Journal" by Claudia Nice, she shows a cloth kit she designed and sewed to hold sketchbook journal, a variety of pencils, ruler, retractable travel brushes and pens, a small. Ottle of ink, eraser, collaspable water buchet, and a repurposed child's watercolor box. box. It is made from a pair of discarded blue jeans!!!!
I intended on making this but couldnt figure out how to fit kn all that I needed. But it could be done...
Saint Ragdoll