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Roan
05-21-2001, 02:29 PM
Which book is it that you have, Tammy?

I have several of my own that I could recommend, but in truth I'd rather wait for L. Diane Johnson to reply to your post. She's a wonderful landscape pastelist and instructor.

Hrm, she used to have book recommendations on her site, but I don't see them now. Howver, she does have published articles. Here's the main URL to her site:
http://www.ldianejohnson.com

And here are the articles:
http://www.ldianejohnson.com/articles.html

Diane just got back from Tuscany and I'm sure will respond to your post soon.

There are others here that also paint landscapes that will probably reply to your post. Hang around!

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cliffwilson
05-21-2001, 04:00 PM
Hello Tammy,

It isn't clear to me whether you are looking for a "how to do landscapes" or "how to use pastels" book. It might help if you clarified that some.

But, having said that ...

I just finished reading "Painting the Landscape in Pastel" by Albert Handell and Louise West. I thoroughly enjoyed it and found it useful.

Also, although not strictly a landscape book, I thought Doug Dawson's "Capturing Light & Color With Pastel" was also useful.

There are many good pastel instruction books available. You might try just browsing at the bookstore and look for one that seems to fit your reading/learning style.

Good Luck,
Cliff

Artistammy
05-21-2001, 04:35 PM
The video I wasn't real happy with is Progressing with Pastel by Barry Watkin. The pastel book I have is Master Strokes--Pastel.
I want to learn how to do landscape in pastel. I read things about painting it in oils, etc. but it doesn't always translate very well to pastel. How do you do evergreen trees, bushes, grass etc.? Tutorial types would probably be most helpful.
Thanks,
Tammy

LDianeJohnson
05-21-2001, 05:04 PM
Hi Tammy,

Welcome to WetCanvas!

(Thanks Roan)...

Here are some books & videos to help you along. And in addition to actual "pastel" books (some of which are specific to landscapes and others cover landscapes mixed with other subjects) I highly recommend reading general oil & acrylic books as well. Videos on pastel landscape painting have been very limited but are growing daily. Although have not viewed the the videos listed here, they are very reasonably priced and are worth a try.

Books specifically on painting landscapes in Pastel:

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823039129/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Painting the Landscape in Pastel</A> Albert Handell

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823005046/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">The Big Book of Painting Nature in Pastel</A> S. Allyn Schaffer, John Shaw

(These three are "out of print" but are still available in limited quantities in some areas):

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0715302213/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Capturing the Light in Pastel</A> Lionel Aggett

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0891346783/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Capturing Light & Color in Pastel</A> Doug Dawson

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823026108/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Painting Landscapes in Pastel</A> Earnest Savage

Other very good books on painting in pastel which also cover landscapes/materials, etc.:

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823039072/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Pastel for the Serious Beginner</A> Larry Blovits

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823016994/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Painting Landscapes & Figures in Pastel</A> Jose Parramon

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823025217/thecritiqueshop/107-2799613-5458935">Intuitive Light: An Emotional Approach to Capturing the Illusion of Value, Form, Color, and Space</A> Albert Handell with Leslie Trainor Handell

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0891347895/thecritiqueshop/104-5880759-8843967">Creative Painting With Pastel</A> Carol Katchen

<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0891343962/thecritiqueshop/104-5880759-8843967"> Pastel Painting Techniques : 17 Pastel Painting Projects Illustrated Step-By-Step With Advice on Materials and Techniques </A> Guy Roddon

Videos (can be ordered through Cheap Joe's Art Stuff. More videos are available through the Pastel Society of America):

From Barry Watkin-
"Pastel Landscapes"
"Progressing with Pastel"
"Mood & Atmosphere in Pastel"

Aubrey Phillips-
"Painting with Pastels"

Hope this helps you!

Diane

L. Diane Johnson (http://www.LDianeJohnson.com/) NAPA, PSA
2001/2002 Plein Air Workshops (http://www.LDianeJohnson.com/workshops/)

[This message has been edited by Artistry (edited May 21, 2001).]

Artistammy
05-21-2001, 06:33 PM
Thanks so much. I'm going to check into these. I think I'll go to the bookstore and look for some of these books.
Tammy

Roan
05-21-2001, 10:58 PM
Tammy,

If you feel like getting adventurous, there are some pastel and pastel landscape videos available from the UK in NTSC format. The prices range from 12.99 - 14.99 ($22-$25 USD) and the shipping isn't all that much.

The site I found them at is Teaching Art:
http://www.teachingart.com/cgi-bin/web_store.cgi?page=medium.htm&cart_id=

Click on "Pastels".

Here's the list:
Margaret Evans (leading UK art teacher)
Discovering Landscapes in Pastel (filmed in the Scottish Highlands)

Jackie Simmonds (featured in many pastelist magazines)
too many to list and has several workshop videos

Rev Paul Hardy
Pastel Landscapes 1
Pastel Landscapes 2

Hope this helps too!

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Bobbie
05-22-2001, 12:12 AM
Hi, All,
Just had to add my 2c's worth. I attended a demo given by Margaret Evans at the IAPS convention. She was great. Larry Blovits was also good. In addition, I have a tape by Jackie Simmonds - excellent. Tammy, you can't go wrong with any of these.
Regards


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Regards,
Bobbie

Artistammy
05-22-2001, 01:28 AM
I'd like some recommendations for landscape instruction bks & videos for pastel. I don't have money for lessons but I get frustrated trying to figure it out on my own. I got one video but it left out too much & the painting I did didn't turn out very well. I love the guy that paints on public TV. Too bad he doesn't use pastel!
Please someone answer me. The last time I posted a question on a forum, noone replied. I felt invisible.
Thanks,
Tammy

Artistammy
05-22-2001, 11:28 AM
Thanks all of you for your ideas. I went to the bookstore last night only to find they didn't have any of these books right now. It's difficult to know how to spend my money. I'm still trying to build up my color repetoire of pastels also.
Do you remember if the book by Albert Handel goes into any details about painting evergreen trees and grass like in a meadow? I started a painting in NM last summer. It's a distant scene with fir & spruce trees and some grassy areas in between. A dirt road curves up through it.
I'm uploading a picture of a part of this work in progress.
<IMG SRC="http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-May-2001/Holman_Hill_2._forumJPG.JPG" border=0> I only hope it's not too small to tell what I'm talking about. Maybe you all can share some specific suggestions with me. Maybe someone would like to develop a tutorial for the web like this? (hopefully lol)
Thanks again,
Tammy

Artistammy
05-22-2001, 11:34 AM
Roan,
Thanks for the video idea. Have you used any of these videos? It's nice to know someone else has tried it before I spend money on it.
Tammy

Roan
05-23-2001, 12:31 AM
Tammy,

No, I personally have not used any of those videos; they're still on my "wish list". However, I have read several glowing reviews -- including the one in this thread -- about Margaret Evans and Jackie Simmonds.

One note about those books that Diane mentioned: check out the Amazon.com links that she supplied.

They are much cheaper on Amazon than in retail stores.

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Chuireadh e na searraich bho dheoghal." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">It would put the foals from sucking.
(So bitter or disgusting.) </FONT s>
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Roan
05-23-2001, 12:32 AM
About the Handell book -- I've got it but haven't had a chance to read it yet. I ordered it along with 10 other books and I think I put it as #8 in the pile http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

I'll take a peek in the morning and see if the addresses those specific areas.

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Chuireadh e na searraich bho dheoghal." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">It would put the foals from sucking.
(So bitter or disgusting.) </FONT s>
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Artistammy
05-24-2001, 05:04 PM
Roan,
Did you know your e-mail address on here & on your website is wrong? I just tried to e-mail to see if you had looked at the Handell book yet. Half.com still has one listed for sale. I'm just trying to decide if it's the book to get.
thanks,
Tammy
Gallery for God http://users.windmill.net/~wodom/tammy
[email protected]

Roan
05-24-2001, 05:10 PM
Hrm, my email address is correct. If you are sending from an ISP that has been known to allow spammers, you will get a message back from SpamCop asking you to authenticate your email address so they know you are not a spammer.

Haven't had a chance to check the book out yet, but I will try tonight.

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Chuireadh e na searraich bho dheoghal." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">It would put the foals from sucking.
(So bitter or disgusting.) </FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;--- supply resources for pastelists!
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Shari
05-24-2001, 11:32 PM
I just wanted to add that I recently got the book "the Poetic Landscape" by Elizabeth Mowry and I find it very inspiring. it is not instructional, but just looking at her pictures opened my heart.

Shari

MarshaSavage
05-30-2001, 10:45 AM
All the recommended books so far are wonderful and the comment regarding ordering from Amazon.com is a good one also! There is also "Edward R. Hamilton Bookseller - Bargain Books, Falls Village, CT 06031-5000." They have many art books at discount prices.

Here are a few more books to look for:

<u>Paint the Changing Seasons in Pastel</u> by Elizabeth Mowry

<u>Painting With Passion: How to Paint What You Feel</u> by Carole Katchen (not strictly a pastel book, but wonderful)

<u>Landscape: A Comprehensive Guide to Drawing and Painting Nature</u> by Richard McDaniel (also not strictly pastel, but a good book)

Look for these three along with the ones recommended by Diane. She gave you the best list I have seen. I also agree you should not stick solely to pastel books - oil and acrylic books make up about half of my library. Also books on specifics, such as painting water, painting the effects of weather, the effect of light, etc. are good and usually include pastel as well as the other mediums. I always get something out of each book, and it is different each time I pick one up. You are usually receptive to something different each time.

Good luck!

Marsha --
Marsha Hamby Savage Art (http://marshasavage.artistnation.com)