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02-19-2013, 12:26 PM
I am overall happy with how this is coming along. I think I will take out some of the red on the vines above the praying hands and tone down the cobalt blue. The full image photo is almost true to color although the gold appears very yellow. Mixed media 20x48. The close up of the praying hands is way off, the image is more sepia toned than blazing white. Any and all feedback greatly appreciated!





02-19-2013, 05:45 PM
I have a problem with all the "clutter" with the two vines on the left so I'm going to dig out some of the leaves. I really like the vertical vine on the right so hoping I can get that same feel on the two left and it will create more balance I think. Any thoughts from anyone?

If you hate it, perfectly fine...just let me know why :) ~moe

02-19-2013, 06:12 PM
Do you mean it to be a thicket or a vine?
There is a substantial difference.
I see clasped hands, are these the praying hands?
My preference would be to see the 'vine' cleaner and not just stuck on and slapped over with paint.

02-19-2013, 06:28 PM
Thanks for your feedback Andrew ...in my mind a vine is so invasive it takes on the connotation of a thicket, which to me is a choking dense plant which is so resilient and relentless it overtakes everything in it's path.

Humm....yes indeed those hands are clasped, they are of a young child just having completed her first communion ceremony... in person you can make out the lace and white dress in the image. Not easily interpreted unless you know the context in which the photograph was taken ...thanks for pointing that out and great feedback!

I am working on those vines!

Best ~moe

02-24-2013, 01:20 PM
I've de-cluttered the vines on the left which I think is an improvement...now I think there is too much organe and need to tone it down a bit. All C&C welcome!


~ moe

02-25-2013, 01:41 AM
Hi Moe
I like your work and its implied narrative that, to me (probably no-one else!), hints of another time and place and connection and disconnection.

I also like what you have done with the vines. Love the texture and burnished gold and the contrast of the blue web-like traceries.

Your composition invites exploration!


02-25-2013, 09:56 AM
Hi there Round ...appreciate your feedback! I am bothered by the horizontalish vine at the center top ...just can't figure out how to balance this piece but a few ideas popped in my head yesterday so we will see if I can finally solve this puzzle.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work ...they are lovely!

~Best, moe

02-26-2013, 09:36 PM
Hi Moe
Well I think that the 'horizontalish' vine creates a lovely reaching (almost 'comforting') effect across that central space to the vine on the far right. To me it helps connect the composition and lead the viewer's eye.

When you're uncertain or wrestling with part of a composition (regardless of what others think) you'll know when you've worked through to a solution...the 'niggling' will stop. Speaking from experience of course!!

I have been working far too long on a self portrait with a very detailed background (that portrait painters would think totally unnecessary/overdone), but it's about me and what's important to me. I hope to be able to show it here sometime (but I'm the slowest painter in the world!).

It's always good when someone admires your work!

Thanks and cheers

02-27-2013, 09:40 AM
Hi Round,

Thanks for your input, I do see your point about the horizontal vine so I appreciate you pointing it out. I think maybe the issue is the house image, it's just stuck there doing nothing. I also considered cutting the piece in half between the two vines on the left and getting rid of the house all together but i'm mulling that thought.

You've given me some confidence back...yesterday I thought my account was blocked because my work was so hideous, lol ..just kidding but it did cross my mind!

Best, ~moe

03-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Here is the latets, I've added some vines to bring in the house image to make it more inclusive and added a figure in the center of the painting...I can remove the figure if I decide I don't like it....it's only been an hour since I've added her so you never know! I'm going to take out the latter on the LT side...it was originally in the piece, then I covered it up, and then I brought it out again but it isn't working. As usual color is wayyy off. Any C&C welcome!





03-30-2013, 09:57 AM
I'm taking out the figure...brb.

03-30-2013, 09:09 PM
I think I may just eliminate her lower legs....and upper forearm reaching into the thicket will be more prominent. I'm also thinking she will be a viridian green'sh and will allow her to merg into the background. My art takes me months to work through ...I travel extensively for work so time with my art is very limited.. hens the agony of completion. ~moe


04-20-2013, 09:24 PM
I've decided instead of the woman appearing to push against the thickets I will have her emerging from them. Will update once I re-do....I'm home again for a little while :) bean

04-29-2013, 02:41 PM
I've added a woman emerging from the thickets and I think I actually like it. All C&C welcome!


And some close-ups:



Best, ~moe

04-29-2013, 03:31 PM
such and unusual piece!
glad you changed the woman, she looked like an amputee
still not sure she's necessary/adds benefit in the overall comp


04-29-2013, 05:01 PM
thanks La ...I felt like I needed something in that area...perhaps bringing her down a bit and then having her a bit larger than she is now. Do you feel the added image does nothing to benefit the flow?

Agreed the previous did look too much like an amputee. Pretty much all the figures I do are missing body parts and it's difficult to achieve a non-amputee impression from them.

Best, ~moe

04-29-2013, 06:01 PM
ultimately it's up to you - if you like her, keep her
my thoughts about it are this - the only reality is from the photos, the paint is all abstract and i really like the squiggly, colorful bits with blue ... her white, non abstract figure pulls her into being the coi and unless that's your intent, she's a distraction. if she's a character who's pertinent to your story, perhaps is she were blue and squiggly it would be better?
looking back at the first image, the red 'square' of unknown mystery was enough balance for me.


04-30-2013, 08:35 AM
Oh she is definitely not staying white but will be perhaps blue/green once I've decided exactly where she is going, which i've decided will be lower. The square sub image is slightly more apparent than in reality...the photograph pulls it out a bit more.

Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated. ~moe

05-09-2013, 06:34 PM
OK, almost done ...I've added the figure emerging from the thickets. Thoughts anyone?





Any comments welcome and no offense taken if you think I've totally screwed this piece up :) ~moe

05-22-2013, 09:28 PM
The texture is great. Though, I feel the upper picture could use some more texture on the left side.

05-23-2013, 10:56 PM
Do you mean adding more texture to the house image? There is quite a bit there but blends into the trees a bit. When I return home I'll get a better close up. Thanks for your thoughts. ~moe