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Neverstsfyd
02-01-2013, 01:07 AM
Wish me luck. This is for my granddaughter "peanut". She lives in PA and was born on my birthday. :thumbsup: My grandson wants an F4-U if this goes OK. My daughter says they are both into WW II aircraft for some reason. They are 10 and 6 and actually have discussions over the statistics of the different aircraft. :cool: :cool:

I'm using 9 X 12 800 sanded paper with an underpainting of watercolor pencils then Prismacolors over that. I'm not really liking this brand of paper because it has a definite grain to it. :( We will see what happens.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2013/1089052-P-51_1.JPG

NeilF92
02-01-2013, 05:29 AM
So far so good - looks promising !

Shamrock15
02-01-2013, 05:58 AM
I think you are going to end up doing the Corsair too. Looks good.

Gray539
02-01-2013, 12:24 PM
Good start, Neverstsfyd. Looking forward to the progress.

piccolo mondo
02-01-2013, 10:28 PM
Like the wingtips extending beyond the edges, it works well. This is one of my favorite old planes, keep us posted !

ttomas
02-01-2013, 10:51 PM
Looking forward for result, I like WWII aircrafts, and this seems like going to be a nice piece

Tomas

Neverstsfyd
02-01-2013, 10:57 PM
Thanks fellas! I really appreciate any and all comments. Negative and positive. I like the missing wingtips too. That's the main reason I decided on that view.

I cannot stand the grain of this paper. I have to find a different brand. :(


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2013/1089052-P51___2_medium.JPG
Here is the grain I'm talking about.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2013/1089052-grainy_paper.JPG

Any fixes for this? the valleys get filled then the paper stops taking pigment. Workable fixative is the only thing I can think of but I have ruined several drawings with that. This chess drawing just wore out. I burnished the heck out of it but the grain won. :confused:




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2013/1089052-chessresized_for_grain.jpg

faminz
02-07-2013, 01:30 AM
I feel your pain mate but I have no answers. I use simple 180gsm cartridge sketch pads for my pencil stuff ( see some cars etc over in the colored pencil forum).
But if you then try to wash the background it can start to warp the paper and it gets nasty. I often try to use an acrylic wash then pencil over that once its dry.
Like this one where I've pencilled over the foreground trees after a dark green wash etc..

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2013/1063042-image.jpg

NeilF92
02-07-2013, 05:11 AM
I guess if you think a piece will need water or acrylic colour then it's best to stretch the paper as for watercolours at the outset .
No harm done if it ends up all pencil

Bergere
02-09-2013, 04:23 PM
I would recommend a 140lb Hot press paper. It is super smooth and can take lots of layer of color very well.

It is looking really good!!

Mark A Bufton
02-13-2013, 10:24 AM
I agree with the others, but in my opinion to achieve a standard like that with all the aforementioned issues, I think does you credit. Unfortunately, my mustang seems to have stalled (pardon the pun), while I work on these illustrations.

Look forward to seeing the end result :)

Mark.

Neverstsfyd
02-15-2013, 10:13 PM
Thanks all! My Stang has stalled too. I'm still working on it but mentally. I took a break from it and did this

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2013/1089052-ok_sunrise_5_med.JPG

on R-tistix RTX300 board. I really like it but it doesn't have enough sizes. :o

NeilF92
02-16-2013, 05:31 AM
Good idea ,well rendered .You've caught the colours convincingly .

Neverstsfyd
02-17-2013, 01:07 PM
I did some more on the P-51.

I am done with this type of paper. Well, I'm slowly finding out what DOESN"T work.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2013/1089052-P-51_3.JPG


Did I get the prop blades blurred enough?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2013/1089052-P-51___4.JPG

I like the plane, it's the clouds that are too grainy. I don't have acrylics. I have a new set of oils I'm trying.

NeilF92
02-17-2013, 02:59 PM
For me the props are too eye catching and look static even though blurred . I prefer how you did with the P40 props.

Neverstsfyd
02-17-2013, 05:37 PM
For me the props are too eye catching and look static even though blurred . I prefer how you did with the P40 props.

I'll thank you for the comment on the artistic quality of the props but the P-40 isn't mine, it belongs to the guy that don't eat well, faminz.

Neverstsfyd
02-17-2013, 07:01 PM
That P-40 with the gimp leg reminds me of the Black Sheep Corsair who's landing gear wouldn't retract unless he flipped the plane over and let gravity help. :)