View Full Version : Questions about pan gouache

01-31-2013, 07:38 PM
First off, hi everyone. I don't often post in this forum, but I do check in periodically because I really enjoy seeing and reading the posts.

I have been using Winsor and Newton gouache and I love it, but wanted to find an artist grade pan gouache as well. I recently ordered Caran d'Ache studio pan gouache (I'm really enjoying it, but from what I've read it is not artist grade). On Amazon there are listings for Caran d'Ache studio pan gouache (available in 8 or 15 pans) and a listing for a Caran d'ache plastic box tempera gouache kit (available in 15 pans) I want to know what the difference between the two kits is, if any (on Amazon there are separate listings, descriptions, and separate packaging). I have contacted Caran d'Ache, but have not yet received a reply. If they are two distinct products, is one better (more pigmented/more lightfast/more opaque) than the other? If so, which one? I would assume the "studio" kit is better quality because of the name and higher price, but the few artist's reviews I've read have been about the fancolor kit. Any information on this would really help.

I'm only familiar with a few other brands of pan gouache (e.g. Pelikan, Grumbacher, Yarka) and none of them are artist grade as far as I know. Any help finding an artist grade pan gouache would be great. Some input on which brands reconstitute well would also be helpful.

Deborah Secor
02-01-2013, 01:02 PM
Laila, I'm interested in this, too. A search brought this interesting post from Cathy Johnson: http://artistsjournalworkshop.blogspot.com/2011/07/pan-gouache-anyone.html Check out the reply from Anonymous February 10, 2012 at 7:01 PM, particularly. But best of all, here are photo and further information: http://artistsjournalworkshop.blogspot.com/2011/07/gouache-again.html

Maybe these will help! Hope so.

02-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Thanks for your reply Deborah. Unfortunately, those two links are among the very limited hits I've gotten and I have returned to them repeatedly. Nothing seems to answer my questions directly. I know from the second link, http://artistsjournalworkshop.blogsp...che-again.html, that the paints aren't artist grade (according to a Caran d'Ache rep.), but I am not entirely sure if what I am seeing listed on Amazon and other sites are actually two separate products or the same product in different packaging.
There is another link that I have recently found, http://www.squidoo.com/sketching-tips-for-gouache-paint, which states that they are two separate products and that the studio set is better (which I would assume), but everything else I've read either makes them seem like the same thing or reviews the Fancolor set and seemingly confuses it with the Studio set.

I am still really enjoy using the Caran d'Ache Studio gouache. In my mind, it is not so different from various brands of designer's gouache, because there is a lot of highly pigmented gouache that isn't single pigment, lightfast, etc. Either way, it's still great for the sketchbook.

Hopefully, we'll get some more information, because I'm sure there are a number of us who would love to find some artist grade gouache pans (for a reasonable price of course ;)).

Deborah Secor
02-01-2013, 07:02 PM
I figured you had hit these, but at least now the hits are here for others to see, too!

Also found this: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15593362&postcount=10 Might ask her for information....

02-02-2013, 12:27 PM
Thanks again Deborah! That's a good idea.