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Roan
01-30-2001, 11:03 AM
There's no escaping Casey! :P

I've posted this in Critiques and Animal, but I want to share it with everyone here as well. I'm so proud of this portrait!
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All done! I took some pictures outside and here's the best one, cropped as suggested.

Soft pastel on suede mat board, cropped about 10x14"

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Nan danadh mo lmh mar a dh'iarradh mo shil!</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">If my hand could do as my eye would desire!</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;-- pastel open stock vendor sources & reviews!

Lulu
01-31-2001, 12:43 AM
Absolutely beautiful! & I love those eyes!
Suede mat board? Haven't heard of it, I presume you still frame behind glass?

Thanks for sharing - I LOVE dogs!
Lulu http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Roan
01-31-2001, 07:27 AM
Thanks, Lulu!

I got the idea for suede from an issue of the Pastel Journal a few months back. I'd used velour off and on -- liked the look and feel -- but it's a hellish thing to work on and to frame. It sheds fibers and pastel all over the place. One of mine has almost obscured the mat board with particles :P

Suede is much more expensive, but it doesn't shed pastel or anything. I've a framed one on my wall that has been there for about three months and I occassionally check the mat for dust -- nada.

Suede holds more pastel, there's NO dust -- I can honestly say it's the only surface I've worked on where my catch-tray reminds empty unless I purposely remove pastel from the surface. Really. No dust. Nada.

You can also buy suede mat board in HUGE sheet sizes, 40x60". That's a big painting!

The downside to suede is that it's not 'archival', but then again there are a lot of surfaces that pastelists use that aren't. It is acid free and the suede is not a plant product so it's naturally lignin free.

As for glass, definitely! All pastels -- fixed or not and regardless of surface -- should be framed behind glass.

Thanks for your comments!

Oooops! Almost forgot! Couple more "downsides" to suede -- although I feel they are arguable. One is that it 'eats' pastel. Now, it's not like sanded! There's no dust, but if you use a very soft pastel brand like Schmincke, use a light stroke! Suede soaks up pastel like there is no tomorrow :P

Another is to avoid harder pastels unless it's necessary for what you are doing! This means Rembrandt and some Winsor & Newtons and anything harder than that. I think Unison may be too hard as well -- haven't tried them yet. Harder pastels will flatten the nap in some cases and the suede will become less able to soak up the pigment. I do this on purpose sometimes -- like with a "solid" background -- I go over it with a Sennelier (they're rather gritty and flatten the suede out), then use Schmincke on top. Saves my Schmincke from getting totally used up :P

So, if you try suede, think softer pastels. Rowney works good, most Winsor & Newtons work well, Schimcke I use last or for areas I want to totally saturate. Don't use Nupastels for drawing or details unless you have a VERY light touch and don't use Rembrandts! Too hard.

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Nan danadh mo lmh mar a dh'iarradh mo shil!</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">If my hand could do as my eye would desire!</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) <-- pastel open stock vendor sources & reviews!

[This message has been edited by Roan (edited January 31, 2001).]

Lulu
02-01-2001, 03:22 AM
... a very comprehensive reply. Thanks roan http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Have learnt a lot, and have much to learn!
Lulu

Roan
02-01-2001, 10:06 AM
You're quite welcome, Lulu!

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Nan danadh mo lmh mar a dh'iarradh mo shil!</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">If my hand could do as my eye would desire!</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;-- pastel open stock vendor sources & reviews!

animal
02-19-2001, 06:31 PM
Roan, I really like this pastel. you have captured his/her face so well. I keep coming back to this piece because I like it alot. Great work Roan http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Roan
02-19-2001, 07:31 PM
Thanks again, animal :P

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Call caraid tadhal tric, 's call caraid tadhal ainmig.</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">Friends are lost by calling often, and by calling seldom.</FONT s>
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LDianeJohnson
02-19-2001, 08:17 PM
"I'm so proud of this portrait!"

You should be. It is wonderful. This pup is a treasure. And the title alone says it all.

D.

Ohju
02-19-2001, 08:50 PM
Awww love those eyes! Thanks for sharing this great piece!
~Ju

Roan
02-20-2001, 07:01 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/redface.gif thank you both, Diane and Ohju http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/redface.gif

Hugs!

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Call caraid tadhal tric, 's call caraid tadhal ainmig.</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">Friends are lost by calling often, and by calling seldom.</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;-- pastel open stock vendor sources & reviews!