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lambssupper
10-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Okay I am 45 years old but haven't painted seriously since high school. I just completed my first portrait in oil (first pic). I would love some expert advise. I've started on my second work (second photo)and would like a little advise on what to do in the background. I think I may have positioned the subject too far down on the canvas and now have a big empty-looking area in the upper left corner. Keep in mind this is not even close to complete. Still agonizing over baby hair!http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/1073862-anna_art_-_sorrowful_mother.jpg

lambssupper
10-15-2012, 09:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/1073862-anna_art_-_mother_and_child.jpg

lambssupper
10-15-2012, 09:31 PM
So other than baby hair and the empty space (which doesn't show in the pic) I wondered why when I attempt to glaze in my second work the glaze beads on the canvas? I can't think of a thing I am doing differently this time. I didn't have this problem with the first one.

Andrewcody
10-15-2012, 09:58 PM
Hi LambS
What sort of medium are you using to glaze????
Why are you trying to glaze?

Regards
Andrew

arnieb
10-16-2012, 03:58 AM
Hi and welcome to WC. First picture looks very good. The figures are well drawn and painted, and have feeling. Suggest you stick it on its own in the Open Crit forum and you will get crits and suggestions.
To me the faces and hands are great, but Jesuses shoulder and twisted body dont look quite right. Suggest darkening area under Marys chin, and losing some of shoulder on left - perhaps by darkening the area or covering with cloth. Hope that helps Arnie

lambssupper
10-16-2012, 07:21 PM
Ahhh, I see the area under the neck thing. The shoulder probably could use darkening too. She is drawing him to herself so that would cause the awkward shoulder placement. But I see that it still needs further shadowing. Thanks!

The medium I used on the first painting was linseed oil. I can't figure out why it's beading on this one though.

Andrewcody
10-16-2012, 09:55 PM
Just straight Linseed oil?

arnieb
10-17-2012, 05:13 AM
I allways use a toutch of Daler's - Purified Linseed Oil to thin the oil paint. Have noticed rear of canvas to be discoloured - yellow/brown when using cheap student quality canvas - but never noticed problem with slightly more expensive artists quality canvas. Think student canvas was double primed rather than triple primed.
Occasionally I get lines of the linseed oil apearing as the paint dries and the oil moves down the canvas. I just wipe it off with a brush before it dries - but I now try and use less oil. Arnie

Andrewcody
10-17-2012, 09:48 PM
You need to have a look at some of the medium mix recipes on this site
Straight linseed is best used on cricket bats

lambssupper
10-23-2012, 08:43 PM
Thank you so much for your advise everyone. I did add more cloth and darkened the suggested areas on my first painting. Does this look any better?
I believe the problem with the glaze on my second painting has to do with the cheap canvas. Lesson learned! Here is an updated look at that one. Still in progress.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Oct-2012/1073862-anna_art_-_blessed_mother.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Oct-2012/1073862-anna_-_sorrowful_mother_framed.jpg

lambssupper
10-23-2012, 08:46 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Oct-2012/1073862-anna_-_sorrowful_mother_framed.jpg

Rob't Emmet
10-23-2012, 10:56 PM
I realize my comments are a bit late, since you have already framed it, but post-mortem skin color is generally pallorous. His skin color in your painting is exactly the same color as His living, breathing mother holding Him. If you give Him the same skin color as your representation of Him as a child, (in the second painting) it would reflect His actual suffering and demise more accurately.

Still, for having been away from painting for so long, you are doing well. Keep up the good work.

Andrewcody
11-07-2012, 07:30 PM
Over 20,000 views - WOW
Now I cannot even get to page 2 to have a look

ANdrew