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levanty
09-19-2012, 08:30 AM
60 x 73 cm Acrylic on canvas.
I am having a hard time with placement since the photo is a 3x5 inch print.
I managed to size it for the post but only using the Paint program. I have been trying to do blocks of colour where I think the elements should go. Also, I am not seeing the details in the background and need to imagine what it there. Any tips would be helpful. Yvie

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Sep-2012/980793-second_comparrison.jpg

Trumper
09-19-2012, 11:24 AM
:) Good start,you don't always need too much detail,let the eyes lead the imagination into gear.
Looks good so far.:)

levanty
09-19-2012, 12:40 PM
:) Good start,you don't always need too much detail,let the eyes lead the imagination into gear.
Looks good so far.:)
thanks!

Andrewcody
09-19-2012, 08:43 PM
Hi Levanty, nice work so far
You have played around with perspective and angular depictions in your painting, changes from the reference, which if purposeful are fine, but if you were trying to depict the reference more closely are a problem.
The corner and wall running away on the left, and the wall on the right - this side is the most changed from a straight wall following the stairway to a right angled wall, also at the top of the stair way the reddish brown building the perspective is flattened.
I think you need to study the photo and see what is actually happening.
Regards
Andrew

levanty
09-20-2012, 11:36 AM
Hi Levanty, nice work so far
You have played around with perspective and angular depictions in your painting, changes from the reference, which if purposeful are fine, but if you were trying to depict the reference more closely are a problem.
The corner and wall running away on the left, and the wall on the right - this side is the most changed from a straight wall following the stairway to a right angled wall, also at the top of the stair way the reddish brown building the perspective is flattened.
I think you need to study the photo and see what is actually happening.
Regards
Andrew

Andrew, I appreciate your comments and will try to create more of an angle in the background building (reddish brown one). Also, your use of the word "purposeful" has enlightened me today. I have never studied painting nor have I ever taken a course so I really don't know what I'm doing. Usually, if I am unable to "copy" the reference picture exactly - then I opt for a change. Is this a cop-out or just my style of interpretation coming out? Thanks again. Yvie

sweeter_than
09-20-2012, 05:23 PM
I don't think changing things from the reference is bad in and of itself, but in this case I think you are losing some of the expected impact of that Mediterranean village by changing angles - the stairs in your version look wider and more even to me as well. I think you're on the right track if you can work that out. Good luck. :)

Andrewcody
09-20-2012, 06:11 PM
Yvie it is definitely not a cop out, you can interpret as you feel you should. Reference photos can guide or provide the initial inspiration, they do not have to be copied exactly.
You are doing well
Andrew

levanty
09-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Are the angles better now? Obviously a ton of work to do still....once I have the elements in place....I'll start having fun with the details.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2012/980793-greece3.jpg

Vasilios Kats
09-21-2012, 02:34 PM
What place of Greece is this?

levanty
09-21-2012, 02:56 PM
I don't really know. A friend of mine shared this picture on her Facebook (she is from Greece) so I assumed that she took the photograph during one of her trips. I have emailed her to get you an answer. Hopefully she will reply soon. Regards, Yvie

Vasilios Kats
09-21-2012, 04:19 PM
Thank you for your interest!Βut i dont think that this place is Greece. Whatever the case the foto is beautiful and your painting too!

levanty
09-21-2012, 04:28 PM
Thank you Vasilios! I still have a lot of work to do on it.
Here is my friend's reply to us:

hi Yvie, I did not take the pictures they were from another source, but these photos are taken in some of our old villages or islands....blessings...
Soula Isch

Vasilios Kats
09-22-2012, 08:20 AM
thank u very much Levanty!

Debzy
09-22-2012, 11:53 AM
Hi Yvie! Nice to see your work on here again! Always a pleasure for me! I agree that there are a few perspective issues, some of them have been cleared up in the second version! The steps look better and the angle of the distant roof has improved it greatly. It is not an easy photo reference, as you say it is small and some areas are not very clear to see what is actually happening. The main thing that jumps out to me at the moment is the wall on the viewers right. I think it is a straight wall going away from us with pots decreasing in size as they get further away. As Sweeter_ than says, this kind of thing gives it a Mediterranean feel. I think if you could achieve this it would make a difference. You don't have to get a photo replica though, you certainly have captured most colours and the scene is looking very good. I think you are very brave to paint such complex scenes, I am scared to do buildings. Well done so far Yvie, can't wait to see the details emerging, and glad to see you posting again. Cheers =)) Debs.

levanty
09-23-2012, 10:36 AM
Thanks Debs. Good to be back. I see what you mean about the pots getting smaller. My handrail on the right is too dark causing the wall to look flat. I'll keep working and keep you posted. Thanks again for the constructive feedback.

levanty
09-27-2012, 09:09 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Sep-2012/980793-TAKE4.jpg

Debzy
09-27-2012, 12:15 PM
Yvie! This is looking fabulous now! Well done so far! I love it =)) Cheers Debs.

levanty
09-27-2012, 03:47 PM
Thanks Debs. I think that all that "cheersing" has caused me to draw the building lines a little crooked, lol I'm not sure that I want to try to make them straight at this point, oh well. My tipsy interpretation of a lovely pic at least! Now for the flowerpots....I'll keep posting as I go (merrily) along! Cheers right back at ya!

arnieb
09-28-2012, 04:15 AM
All those angles look good to me - dosnt matter that they dont match photo. I would include the handrail for steps on left to suggest they turn - otherwise they may look like they suddenly stop.
Are you going to put flowers on plants on left and right? Arnie

levanty
09-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Yes Arnie, I have saved the most pleasurable part (for me anyway) for last. The flowers, greenery, colours, etc. will be the icing on the cake. Thank you for your input. Regards, Yvie

levanty
10-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Me again. Still so much to do....comments are welcome as usual, even appreciated if you have the time. Thank you for looking.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Oct-2012/980793-take_four.jpg

Debzy
10-04-2012, 01:40 AM
Yvie... it's looking fantastic! wow, very well done! Keep going, you are almost there =)) Cheers as always =)) Debs.

levanty
10-04-2012, 02:49 AM
You're too kind. I know that it takes a lot of dedication and I am grateful to have some at this time...I may not be posting daily but know this...I am painting and will keep you posted as often as possible. Once again, thank you for your encouragement!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Oct-2012/980793-take_5.jpg

levanty
10-04-2012, 02:56 AM
p.s. Anyone out there with some advice on how to paint over the bumps (it's a rocky road now)....This would be greatly appreciated! :crossfingers:

DebbieO
10-05-2012, 02:02 AM
Which bumps? It looks like it could be finished to me. Nicely done! Those angles are great.

levanty
10-05-2012, 02:10 AM
Thanks Debs. I've only just begun....(music notes)...
Now that I have placed my elements, I can start using my fine-liner brush and give it some serious detail....another couple of weeks should do it...thanks for looking!!!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Oct-2012/980793-take_six.jpg

arnieb
10-05-2012, 04:08 AM
I like this and the wife agrees. All the work is coming thru.
Got caught twice now searching for the 'angels' when should have been looking at the angles.:lol:
Bumps: These are ineviatable if paint goes on too thickly. I find varnishing the final work helps.
What really bugs me is the little lumps that you can get from skin on paint on the pallet -I try and remove them with a clean brush as soon as I notice them, or give painting a quick check at the end of a session. I also chip them off with finger nail if I dont notice them till work is dry.
If your not using thick paint for expression - I use a dipper with Purified Linsead Oil to thin the paint when I need it.
Hope that is useful. Arnie

levanty
10-05-2012, 04:58 AM
To Arnie (and wife); thank you both for looking at my artwork and for relating the idea of "angles" to this interpretation. I must admit that both Alan and I are in service for His glory and we can only hope that our efforts prove useful. Here's the latest on my curent work; p.s. yes to the '"finger" method in dealing with bumps...I can scrape, smudge, fine-line, whateve...and fill in those bumps with colour and texture. Thank you for your encouragement. If I don't post tomorrow, rest assured that I am busy painting and shooting, printing and comparing. With music, we imitate the masters before being able to compose a great piece. Same with this one. I hope to give it the hommage that it deserves (and then some).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5YzO5Jld0



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Oct-2012/980793-take7.jpg

Debzy
10-05-2012, 05:20 AM
I am loving this soooooo much Yvie! I look at it and find myself wishing it was my painting and that I had painted it =)) You have certainly come a very long way Yvie. I have always enjoyed your paintings, all the buildings and details, all of them are beautiful. you are very clever. =)) Cheers Debs. x

arnieb
10-05-2012, 07:23 AM
Mrs Robinson, how can I be sure, and dog joining in at the end.:thumbsup: Arnie

Debzy
10-05-2012, 09:56 AM
Yes, the dog had his little part too! :D It was awesome, and the dog bark was priceless! :clap: :clap: :lol: :lol: I loved watching you Yvie. :thumbsup:

levanty
10-09-2012, 07:04 PM
Thank you Arnie and Deb. We celebrated our Thanksgiving this past weekend so I didn't have a chance to do much. Here is the most recent. Please let me know if there are any touch ups to do. Thanks again and happy Thanksgiving (if this applies to you).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Oct-2012/980793-take7.jpg
I'm thinking more contrast in the background and more light green in the bushes on the left....what do you think? Oh yeah, and the handrails need definition of course.

Andrewcody
10-09-2012, 11:52 PM
Debs is correct, and it was what I was getting at regarding how you have interpreted the reference photo.
It is always a good idea to study the reference to work out just what is going on. I still like what you have done though
:)
Andrew

Debzy
10-10-2012, 09:08 AM
Hi Yvie, we don't have thanksgiving here, but "Happy Thanksgiving" to you my friend! :wave:
Your painting is smashing, really looking very very good! I am so impressed! :clap: :clap:

I don't think you need much more definition in the distance because it is in the distance, perhaps just darken it a little to add depth and that will bring the foreground detail into more focus. I agree that adding a little more green to the left bushes could work, would balance it with the green in the pots on the other side of the steps. Maybe a little more of the wall gold colour in the stonework in the foreground would add a bit of zing too =)) :thumbsup:
I think you have done an amazing job on this. Buildings are a fear of mine, all that perspective stuff ..... arrrgghhhhh! :eek:
Fab work Yvie, you are a talented lady.:music: Hats off to you =)) Cheers and take care. Debs. :D

levanty
10-10-2012, 09:29 AM
Thanks again Arnie and Debs. Although you do not have Thanksgiving where you live, I do hope that you get another holiday (off work) at some other time...the long weekends are priceless!

levanty
10-11-2012, 12:42 AM
:clap:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Oct-2012/980793-wed_quake_001_small.jpg

Debs,
I have taken your advice and added more gold to the walls, darkened the background to make it look further...etc. Now I am at the stage where I can really improvise...adding a chair etc. gardening!!! :clap: Just a few more strokes and I think I will be done. Thank you so much for your continued support! I really cherish people like you in my life. Be well! Yvie.

levanty
10-11-2012, 12:47 AM
P.S. Here's what I mean by a rocky road...
After so many retakes...it becomes hard to control the lines....
I guess it just adds texture :) !!! Dab, dab, lol ...
I can still add to those flowers though....some colour?

There is still so much to do :clap:
but soooooooo much fun now! :) :) :)
I love the finishing touches! :heart: :heart: :heart:


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Oct-2012/980793-wed_quake_005-small.jpg

DebbieO
10-11-2012, 02:07 AM
Oh I love that kind of texture in a painting! Luscious!

Trumper
10-11-2012, 03:42 AM
:) Well done,you can almost climb those steps and into the painting :)

Debzy
10-11-2012, 08:54 AM
Oh Yes Yvie! This is just delightful! What great skill you have shown us. I am truly inspired by this and by you! Cheers =)) Debs. x

levanty
10-11-2012, 11:23 AM
Thank you all for your compliments. I am truly humbled and grateful to have your input. The final pic will be posted next week (I hope).

Andrewcody
10-11-2012, 08:50 PM
BRAVO
:)
This is lovely
Well done
Regards
Andrew

levanty
10-11-2012, 10:39 PM
BRAVO
:)
This is lovely
Well done
Regards
Andrew

:blush:

crafor
10-11-2012, 11:52 PM
Beautifully done. A piece to be proud of.
Ella

levanty
10-13-2012, 12:14 AM
Beautifully done. A piece to be proud of.
Ella
Thank you so much Ella. :cat:

arnieb
10-13-2012, 03:28 AM
Great job:thumbsup: Frame it. Agree - the finishing toutches can be the most exciting part.Arnie

song_bird
10-14-2012, 10:32 AM
This is fabulous! What a beautiful place. I want to live there :cat:

Love everything about it!

levanty
10-15-2012, 03:53 PM
Thank you Arnie...though I do not believe that it is ready for a frame. Besides, I need to save the money for that, lol! Song bird; I agree with you, looks like a nice place to visit and maybe stay for a while :) I only hope to capture the final lines, textures and tones as far as I can see. There still seems like there is more do for now so I'll post again when I've progressed enough. Thanks again to everyone who inspired me, who encouraged me and who stayed the course throughout this project.
Sincerely, Yvie

levanty
10-15-2012, 06:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-greece_final.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-final_001.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-final_003.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-final_004.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-sat_oct_15_005.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-final_006.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Oct-2012/980793-final_007.JPG

Thanks again for all the feedback. I couldn't have done this without your help! :clap:

Andrewcody
10-15-2012, 08:56 PM
Yvie, what an absolute triumph, I can imagine walking into your painting.
Wonderful, I am so happy that you persisted and made the changes.
:)
Regards
Andrew

Debzy
10-16-2012, 01:18 AM
This is spectacular Yvie! Absolutely spectacular! Well done my friend. You have captured the scene, the atmosphere and the delightful colours of this beautiful mediterranean country. Definitely cheers to you ! =)) Debs.

Trumper
10-16-2012, 05:51 AM
Could i just ask about the flowerpots on the right wall,they look like they are floating ,i would add some shadows around the flowerpots as well but it is a really lovely piece of work:thumbsup:

levanty
10-16-2012, 07:35 AM
Andrew, Debs and Trumper; thank you so much for helping me get through this one. Your support is what made it happen! Trumper, I wish you had told me this before I varnished...oh well...it stays as it lays now. Thanks anyway. Regards, Yvie