New Inked Final WIP--Thirsty

[artmom]

This is from a reference photo by A. V. Zawl in Siena, Italy. The statue in the photo is of stone, rather boring color. I have used Daniel Smith Duochrome color to make the statue look metallic. Sorry that it doesn't show the glow in the scan.

I used Em's (mustcreate) underpainting technique.

Am I done? Comments and critiques welcome.

9 x 12 Arches CP W&N and Daniel Smith paints

Underpainted with Winsor Violet--Em told me I had used too much violet and told me to scrub some out for highlights--lightest places reserved by Masquepen

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2003/11722-Fountain_and_Pigeon_1.jpg

Started adding color--didn't like it--New Gamboge

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2003/11722-Fountain_and_Pigeon_2.jpg

Decided to put Duochrome over all the colors on the statue.
Put FUB over pigeon

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2003/11722-Fountain_and_Pigeon_3.jpg

Duochrome over all of statue--Winsor Green (blue shade) and Alizarin Crimson to make the black on the pigeon

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2003/11722-Fountain_and__Pigeon_Final.jpg


Lyn

[laudesan]

Lyn your pidgeon looks fantastic, what is Duochrome color???

JJ

[ripvanblair]

Gid yin Lassie, maybe a wee highlight now otherwise----well done----------Alan

[M.A.]

Wonderful!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[artman42]

Great Work Lynn i like the pigeon !

[painterbear]

I remember that statue and the pigeons all have learned the trick of drinking from the fountain just like yours is doing! Wish I had thought to take a photo of it.

This looks very good, Lyn. A few highlights on the statue would be good, as Alan suggested.

I really like the way you painted the flowing water and the pigeon. Very nice.

[tigre255]

Looking good Lyn, like the other say *****a few highlights*****and you got it........:)

[SouthernSun]

Nice painting, Lyn. I especially like the way you painted the bird.

[artmom]

JJ, Duochrome color is a watercolor (or oil) paint put out by Daniel Smith. You can find an explanation of it on the Daniel Smith website. I ordered the desert group. Thanks for looking and commenting!

Alan, Ta!:D

TY, MA!:)

Thank you, Jim, for taking time to look and comment!

Sylvia!:) I thought several people would have seen it-- I'm very pleased with the pigeon and water. On the other hand, I couldn't get the statue to look like the image in my head! LOL But, I enjoyed painting this, and will try it again someday.

Barb, thanks! Your feather demo and your bird paintings helped me with the pigeon.

SouthernSun, TY for looking and commenting! Sorry, I don't have your "real" name down, yet! LOL

I don't exactly know how to put highlights in the statue now that the duochrome is on there. I guess I'll try painting some of the duochrome on a sample piece and play around with that. Of course, in the original the light reflecting off of the metallic copper paint provides highlights.

Thanks, all, for taking time from YOUR painting to look at mine.:)

[Sylvielu]

This is a great composition Lyn. Those duochrome colors are great! I feel the bricks need to be varied in color so the water from the fountain will show up more or some shading on the bricks might work.

[artmom]

Sylvielu, thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I like these duochromes for certain subjects. I thought they would work great w/the statue as I couldn't get the effect I wanted with transparent wc.:)

[Kate Mc]

Great one, Lyn!

I'm not familiar with duochrome either--is it not transparent? Because if it's not, the underpainting won't be as useful....

I LOVE THE WATER!!How did you to it!!!


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Kate

[vestalqueen]

Great painting, Lyn! I agree about adding a little variety in the brick to bring out the water - at least as far as the scan goes. However, after having seen your work up close and personal, I know you lose a lot in the digital format. Now to find out about that paint.....

Harried in Hackensack,

Erin

[woodsyl]

Great painting, Lyn. The more I see this underpainting technique, the more I think I should give it a try.

The pigeon turned out really well, and I love the composition! I like the colours that you ended up with.

Sylvi

[artmom]

Kate, the Duochrome is not transparent--I used it because I screwed up the transparent colors!! LOL I did the water with a squiggly (artistic word) line of masquepen to reserve the white, then laid in a watery mix of FUB and BU at angled intervals after removing the mask.:)

TY, Erin, for looking in!! And, you are right, the Duochrome looks much better IRL.

Sylvi, TY for looking in. I had used the underpainting technique once before, and it turned out well with transparent washes of color over it. I just messed the colors up on this, and so hid the underpainting to a degree under the duochrome. The composition is the photographers--I only changed the background by putting in the stonework and plastered wall. The actual fountain sits in a square and the backdrop was a wall of statues, which I think would have been overpowering in a painting.:)

[javierroca]

Hi Lyn Excellent! it really looks very nice and very well done. I love the pigeon, one thing maybe i would ad some darks on the statue, just my opinion .

[artmom]

Thank you, Javier! Darks, hmmmmm. Maybe that's the way to get the highlights mentioned by the others--put some darks in the statue. Good suggestion.:)

BTW, Kate--I've done some experimenting, and the Duochrome is transparent, if you use enough water--LOL Now I find out!

[Alan Cross]

Good job Lyn....looks like you had fun!!
Alan :)

[lyn lynch]

Yes, a **few** well-placed darks will add some highlights. Not familiar w/properties of that Duro paint either, but take your word on it. Pigeon strength doesn't bother me as if overall lighter it would pale w/the statue. Like the brick wall as is. Good job, Artmommy.

[madmum]

Hi Lyn, I love that pigeon!

On the statue yes, some darks will help with form and contrast. Another option is to carefully scrape back a few highlights with the side of a sharp blade. Only problem with that is you can't paint after you scratch the paper surface.

Ruth

[artmom]

Alan, yes, it was fun! I'm sort of disappointed that I couldn't make it work just with transparent washes--but there's always a next time! TY for looking and commenting.

Fookie-Lyn, thanks for looking and commenting. I learned a lot more than it looks like doing this!! LOL

[CharM]

Lyn, you've done a beautiful job with Em's technique! Congratulations, sis... As I'm late getting to this thread, you already know how to finish it off... I will say that I've lost my highlights many times and end up darkening my darks even more to compensate... I really wish there was a way to show us your paint, because IRL, it's probably stunning!

[capricorne]

Good job Lyn, I know the statue, I was there on the 'Campo' in Siena:D
Jan

[artmom]

Char-Sis, :D !

Jan, thank you for looking and commenting!

Well, folk--I scrubbed off the last layer of paint that I put on--tried to add darks, but paper was too absorbent:( . So put much thinner layer of the Duochrome paint on, in three colors instead of just the one. Then, I inked and I am now quite pleased with the result. It is very metallic IRL but much more transparent feeling--I think I have now learned how to utilize the Duochrome paint.

What do you think now?? Critiques and comments always welcome.

BTW, IRL the water shows up much better than on the scan.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2003/11722-Fountain_and_Pigeon--Inked_Final.jpg

[Christie]

Oooh! Very Flattwo! :D

I like the final version a great deal. :)

I did not know about the Duochromes either, but it looks like something to look into. :)

[laudesan]

I like it Lyn, would love to see it in real life :)

JJ

[artmom]

Christie, what a compliment! :o I admire Flattwo's work very much. Yes, now that I have learned to use lots of water with the Duochrome I'm going to use it much more. It really looks metallic IRL.

Thanks, JJ, you snuck in while I was posting!:D

[Flattwo]

Ah !

Canine line..what an interesting piece! that Dog looks a bit concerned about that Pigeons next move.

The water is most excellent and you have me interested in Duochrome now!

Very well done

Henry

[CharM]

Wow oh wow oh wow oh wow... (or should I have said bow oh wow :D )

This is quite a redo!!! I'm in love with the green and purple bits on the dog... The inking is absolutely perfect for this piece. The only thing missing now is the pigeon p**p... just kidding... :D

[pampe]

how'd I miss this


well....I certainly did not miss the best part!

GREAT FINISH, MOM!!!!

Love the ink

what's a duochrome?

[mustcreate]

Lyn!!

the inked bits sure bring this fellow to life!!! it suits him better than the Duo plain did in the previous version.

did I tell you that I have photos of this guy? and he's at the same fountain that the angel with the pigeon that I painted back in the spring. :) I love Siena and this fountain :)

em

[artmom]

Henry! Thanks for stopping by--you are my muse for my inking. Glad to know you haven't melted into a puddle of sweat, yet!!

CharM, :D :cool:

Pam, happy you didn't miss the finale--I think I've pulled off a "Pampe save." I very happy with the outcome. BTW, the Duochrome is a Daniel Smith paint and there is a full explanation of it on the Daniel Smith website. I bought the Desert set, and Lapis Lazuli. :)

Em, I didn't get to Siena on my trip to Italy, but I thought you might have seen this fellow.:) Yes, the Duochrome will look good over your underpainting technique now that I've learned the trick to it! Thanks for looking.:)

[Johnnie]

Hi Artmom

Great painting. I like it both ways. Final tho punches out more to me.

Nice inking there too. I never knew ink and watercolor went together till I messed with the driftwood thing.

Quite pleasing actually.

Johnnie.

[artmom]

Thank you very much, Johnnie! Inking is very soothing for me. Did you find it that way?

[ripvanblair]

Go to the top of the class Lyn this is excellent what a difference, really looks the part now--------well done------------Alan

[artmom]

Ta, Alan, do I get a Dux??? LOL

[Faafil]

Most excellent Lyn - the pigeon is terrific, and love how you used the duochromes... (I love the colors of the desert set)... you really did a terrific job on this with the inking as well.... great work ! :clap: :clap:

almost forgot to mention the water - super job on that...

tried the Lapis much yet ? I haven't....

[Deb Leger]

I really like the ink on this, but I especially like those bricks, too.

Every time I look through the DS catalogue, those duochromes intrigue me. Now, I'll *have* to order some to try.

And I'm going to have to try this purple underpainting too! See what you've done to me? :D

Deb

[Johnnie]

Originally posted by artmom
Thank you very much, Johnnie! Inking is very soothing for me. Did you find it that way?

Hi.

Yes, well I found inking the picture neat fun. found it kinda just sit back and scribble kind of feeling and would say very relaxing. Definitely.

Johnnie

[vestalqueen]

Oh, my, Lyn! What a difference! I can't wait to see this in person. I love the ink - and I bet this just sparkles. There must be something in the water in Scotland.

Now I'm inspired to dig some things out and try inking........

Erin

[Little Old Lady]

Glad you mentioned this in the wash or I might have misssed it too.
Great job with the ink. It is amazing what the ink can do to add punch.
Congrats on keeping going and creating such a great painting.
JoAnn

[javierroca]

Lyn.
Great finished work !! I like the ink effect and relate better with the pigeon
Well done

[pl_kpprt]

Wonderful! Great job... http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Aug-2003/10305-!cid_000701c338b7$0d5c4fb0$434bbbd4@Paula.gif

[Kate Mc]

Originally posted by artmom
Henry! Thanks for stopping by--you are my muse for my inking. Glad to know you haven't melted into a puddle of sweat, yet!!



I AM! I'mmmmm melllllltiiiiinnnnnngggggg! ....and you're gonna PAY!!! AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO!!!


oops, sorry (slap! slap!) wrong movie.....


Lyn, this is wonderful! When I see you, I have to see this painting, and you'll have to show me how you did the water!!



Kate

[andylavallee]

Its all been said Lyn,but I will add mine anyway well done a good picture:clap: :clap: :clap:

[artmom]

Sorry about taking so long to respond to your comments, folk!! I was offline for about 12 hours and was suffering terrible withdrawal symptoms!!!:eek:

Faafil, yes, I've used the lapis and it takes a bit of getting used to, but I think after I try some exercises with it, I'll get the hang of it. Thanks for stopping by!

Deb, LOL--sorry about that! TY for commenting!

Johnnie--:D

Erin, oh, yes, this inking is great--I'm becoming a big fan of it, thanks to Flattwo!!

JoAnn, thanks for the congrats!:)

Javier, thanks for stopping in again!

Paula, TY for the big thumbs up!

Kate-okay--be happy to show you how to "make water." LOL

Andy, you Grand man, it is so nice to "see" you again!:)

[rapolina]

ciao everybody!
i'm just back from my holidays, how many paintings to stare!:)

Lyn, i like very much this one, great idea inking!
i like the way the pigeon looks to be moving, while the dog is "frozen" in a very living expression (as a statue should be!)
great job!

ciao, rapolina.:)

[artmom]

Ciao, Rapolina! Wecome back--I've missed you! Grazie!