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Luis Guerreiro
05-04-2001, 04:16 PM
Dear All,
One of the best things about Democracy is that we all can say whatever we need to say.
Now, I expect some if not all of you to be quite "angry" but I rather cause anger than keep myself silent and feel guilty about it.
Here is something we all should think about carefully. Please read on:
lead poisoning
also called Plumbism, deleterious effect of a gradual accumulation of lead in body tissues, as a result of repeated exposure to lead-containing substances.

In the home, the main sources of lead are usually lead-based paint and drinking water carried through lead pipes; lead-based paints are especially harmful to children who chew on painted toys and furnishings and eat paint peelings from the walls. Industries in which workers encounter lead-containing solids, dusts, or fumes are the petroleum industry, mining and smelting, printing, cutlery and storage-battery manufacture, plumbing and gas fitting, paint and pigment manufacture, and manufacture of ceramics, glass, and ammunition. Other possible sources of lead poisoning include the agricultural use of insecticides containing lead compounds; the spraying of fruits and vegetables may affect the workers and, eventually, the consumers. Constant exposure to the exhaust fumes of motor vehicles powered by fuel containing tetraethyl lead is also suspected of causing lead poisoning, especially in children.

Individual susceptibility to lead poisoning varies widely. Symptoms also vary; they may develop gradually or appear suddenly after chronic exposure. The poison affects the entire body—especially the nervous system, the gastrointestinal tract, and the blood-forming tissues. The victim usually becomes pallid, moody, and irritable and may complain of a metallic taste. Digestion is deranged, the appetite fails, and there may be severe abdominal pain, with spasms of the abdominal muscles (“lead colic”) and constipation. A black line (“lead line”) may appear at the base of the gums. There is often anemia. In later stages, headache, dizziness, confusion, and visual disturbances may be noted. Peripheral nerve involvement results in a paralysis (“lead palsy”) that generally first affects the fingers, hands, and wrists (“wrist drop”). Among children, the brain itself may be affected, resulting in some cases in permanent damage, such as blindness and deafness, or in convulsions and coma ending in death. Brain injury may also occur in adults after massive exposure.

The lead in the tissues may be removed gradually with substances such as the calcium salts of ethylene diamine, tetraacetic acid, and penicillamine. A lengthy treatment may be necessary, but recovery is usually complete, except when there is major involvement of the brain structures. Until the last half of the 20th century, damage to the brain caused by lead poisoning ended in death in about 25 percent of the cases; about half of those who survived showed some degree of permanent mental deterioration.
It's alright for all experienced painters to make flake white at home. They are (or should be) conscious about their studio practice methodology, but from what we can read elsewhere in this forum, very little has been said about the extreme danger lead carries. Pigment dust is highly dangerous, special face mask must be worn when dealing with the pigment. A very fine dust from grinding deposits in fabrics, food, drink, etc. Its effects are devastating for pets for instance. Flake white is the best white for artists, this isn't under dispute. I can only speak for myself and I guarantee that I won't grind lead carbonate. I will buy it ready-made and I don't think it is safe to do it at home or in the studio. There will always be a problem with cleaning materials used for grinding it, so where do we do it? And after cleaning materials, what do we do with the dirt? Does it go down the drain? What about the environment? I leave this to your best consideration. My only intention is to help and my only concern is you all, your health and the environment. Thanks for reading.

Verdaccio
05-04-2001, 04:48 PM
To be clear from my last post on Flake White, I am distressed about the possibility of lead-based whites being removed from the US marketplace. However, I also do not recommend that ANYONE put a bar of lead over a jar of vinegar to make their own lead white. NOPE. NOT SAFE.

However, if you can find the proper materials, making your own from preground lead carbonate I believe is just fine as long as you are careful and understand the risks you are exposing yourself and your environent to, and take steps to be environmentally safe.

I completely agree with your post! Great information. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Michael Georges
www.fineportraitsinoil.com (http://www.fineportraitsinoil.com)

Scott Methvin
05-04-2001, 05:22 PM
Luis,
I joke about the lead being dangerous, but the reality is I think about it every day.
I looked into the dangers of "plumbago" long ago and bought some calcium tablets.
The real danger is the dust.
When I mull the dry pigment into paint there is that scary time when it is a real danger in the studio. I close all the doors, put the dogs out and wrap a wet cloth diaper around my nose and mouth, like a bandana. Once the dust is in the oil, I can literally breathe easier. I keep my lead pigment in a big mason jar with a spoon in there all the time. I take pains to clean up very carefully after I am done.
The worse incident I ever had making paint, was using Quinacridone Red. It is soooo light and fine that a butterfly fart (can I say that?) will send it all over the room. I accidentally created a cloud of it and spent the next 3 hours cleaning it off of everything. One little granule will make itself known on your clothes, too. The lead is much heavier and easier to work with, luckily.

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"The patience of ants and the industry of saints."

sgtaylor
05-04-2001, 05:33 PM
Luis,
Not only am I not angry about your post, but I thank you for it. I am careful when working with any dry pigment, for even the non-toxic pigments (any fine powder in fact) can cause severe lung damage if inhaled.

Naturally I take extra precautions when working with toxic substances, and if you are unfamiliar with proper safety procedures I would (should have) advise you to avoid all paint making until you have learned how to do it safely.

I have worked in laboratories with substances as dangerous - or more so - than lead carbonate, and am so familiar with proper procedure that I tend to forget that others are not. I also know that people can and do make mistakes, even well trained and experienced individuals.

It is somewhat irresponsible to leave out safety information when urging artists to make their own materials.

I stand corrected, and thank you again for your post.

ldallen
05-05-2001, 08:40 AM
This is really a scary subject. There was an article in the paper about lead in calcium so we called the company that makes the particular brand that I use - and sure enough there is lead in it. I stopped taking it immediately. The next time I went to the doctor she told me there is lead in "everything" including most of the foods we eat. So what now - stop eating? This is just one more step toward the fall of the American Empire. Maybe GW will step in and do something about it? http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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Les

"It takes two people to do a painting - one to do the painting - the other to kill him before he ruins it!! (source unknown)

Luis Guerreiro
05-05-2001, 02:26 PM
I'm sooooo pleased with your replies...
Many thanks to Michael, Scott and SG Taylor for their statements.
Les, your doc is right. There is lead in everything, including most foods but the levels of it are so low that the body uses part of it and eliminates the rest apparently. We can use Flake White safely, so there is no reason to stop using it, only keep aware of its dangers and you will be fine.