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sherrysherman
08-23-2012, 06:16 PM
Hi all--

As usual, please try to keep your questions and comments relevant to the August 25 paintalong.

On this third session, Johannes will be working in PASTELS, probably PanPastels plus some sticks at later stages. The ratio of the painting is 3:4; this includes 9x12, 12x16, and 15x20. He has posted the ref photos and his drawing at the student access page.

You can get to the student access page from the email he sent on Saturday, Aug 11 (subject line "Paint Along Today's Class") or 18 (subject line "Instructions Paint Along Saturday 18"). If you signed up for the sessions, and completed the second registration (at gotomeeting), you should be on his email list. For other instructions on finding the access page, please see the Paintalong Aug 11 - Sept 1 Discussion thread (see Post #42) (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...php?t=1206022).

It is always a good idea to get to the Paint Along video site early to settle any technical issues. If you want to chat using your Ustream user name, you should login to Ustream FIRST using the "login" link at the top right of the Ustream window. THEN, using another window, go to Joe's site (improvemypaintings.com) and click on Watch Live Class (top of menu to left). You will need the password for this step.

Here's what I suggest be in this thread:
- Comments and questions about the Aug 25 Paintalong, including medium, size, palette, surface prep, etc.
- J's final painting
- Students' paintings based on the Aug 25 paintalong
- Comments and critiques about the paintings that are posted.

Please DON'T POST general discussion relating to the paintalongs as a whole, including comments about ustream, technical glitches, suggestions for future paintalongs, dates and times, "where's the thread for XYZ?", how awesome Johannes is for doing these, etc - those should go in the Paint Along Aug 11 - Sept 1 Discussion Thread (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1206022) or the general Paint Along Discussion thread (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1114192) or in some other relevant thread.

EXCEPTION: Johannes can post anything he wants here.

Here's what NOT to post, here or anywhere: J's email or the link to get the photos, download the videos, etc, because those reveal the Secret Password. (Oh, and don't post the password.)

Sil in LI
08-24-2012, 09:20 AM
I want to thank you for these threads. I am vnew to navigating WC and your comments are very helpful. I am learning how to paint from Johannes and learning how to use the computer and navigate from you.

totsy
08-24-2012, 04:45 PM
Sherry, I looked last week and this week and post #42 is not the post. Also when I click http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...php?t=1206022) and forums/show....php?t=1114192) from your post above, the "page cannot be found". I hope Jo sends the e-mail to us so that we can access the reference photos. I already have the password from registration to get into the paintalong.

Linnette

Thanks

Rosemarie
08-24-2012, 07:18 PM
Linette, look for the emails mentioned in your mail box. Look for the email he sent on Saturday, Aug 11 (subject line "Paint Along Today's Class") or 18 (subject line "Instructions Paint Along Saturday 18"). If you have the password you should have the link to the page too.

sherrysherman
08-25-2012, 12:18 AM
Sherry, I looked last week and this week and post #42 is not the post. Also when I click http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...php?t=1206022) and forums/show....php?t=1114192) from your post above, the "page cannot be found". I hope Jo sends the e-mail to us so that we can access the reference photos. I already have the password from registration to get into the paintalong.

Linnette

Thanks

Sorry, Linnette, I don't know what happened to the URL -- some of the letters got dropped. Maybe too many copy and pastes?

It should be: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1206022

Well, this is weird. Again, as I type this post, after "forums/" I see "showthread.php" etc. But it shows up in the post itself with letters missing and replaced by dots. But when you click on it (try it!) the link works.

In that thread, it is post #42.

totsy
08-25-2012, 01:18 AM
Thanks Rosemarie. I have gmail and yahoo and I usually get the emails in both accounts. So when I saw the one in gmail I carelessly deleted it, but expected it to be in my yahoo account, but it was not sent to yahoo. I asked Jo to send it to me again, but he either forgot or something.

Linnette

Rosemarie
08-25-2012, 01:21 AM
Thanks Rosemarie. I have gmail and yahoo and I usually get the emails in both accounts. So when I saw the one in gmail I carelessly deleted it, but expected it to be in my yahoo account, but it was not sent to yahoo. I asked Jo to send it to me again, but he either forgot or something.

Linnette

You can go to Northlight and find your order for the Paint Along and register again. I don't mean that you'll shall pay again just register. You will get the specific page with password and images opened in you browser. Bookmark it!

totsy
08-25-2012, 01:25 AM
Sherry, I've gone through all of that already. I suppose I've got to go back to my account in Northlight and register again to see the photo references.

Thanks much for your help.

Linnette

sherrysherman
08-25-2012, 01:54 AM
Sherry, I've gone through all of that already. I suppose I've got to go back to my account in Northlight and register again to see the photo references.

Thanks much for your help.

Linnette
Or go to your confirmation email from Northlight. The gotomeeting registration link is in that email.

Once you have it, it's good to keep those emails in a folder so you can find them again, OR bookmark the student access page. (I do both.)

Note: Although I have answered this here in this thread (mainly because I wanted to correct the erroneous URL in the first post), please note that the discussion should probably be in the Aug 11 - Sept 1 Discussion thread, since it's not really about the August 25 Paintalong. Thanks. :)

Rosemarie
08-25-2012, 05:39 AM
How do I best transfer the line drawing to my pastel paper? :confused:
I have printed out the line drawing in the correct size for my pastel paper. I don't have any transfer paper. Do I use pastel pencil on the back of the printed paper or is charcoal better to use? Or is there a better way? I don't fancy drawing this motif on free hand.

Johannes Instructor
08-25-2012, 07:58 AM
How do I best transfer the line drawing to my pastel paper? :confused:
I have printed out the line drawing in the correct size for my pastel paper. I don't have any transfer paper. Do I use pastel pencil on the back of the printed paper or is charcoal better to use? Or is there a better way? I don't fancy drawing this motif on free hand.
If you place graphite paper between your drawing and the canvas or paper, you can trace it like in the old days we typed something and got a carbon copy. Fix with masking tape first so it doesn't slide. Or if you can afford it, an LCD projector is a very handy tool.

Rosemarie
08-25-2012, 08:07 AM
Thanks Johannes, but I don't have the graphite paper nor the projector and I need to transfer the drawing today. I guess I have to use the charcoal method.

Johannes Instructor
08-25-2012, 08:15 AM
Thanks Johannes, but I don't have the graphite paper nor the projector and I need to transfer the drawing today. I guess I have to use the charcoal method.
LOL! LCD projector=modern day times, graphite tracing paper = medieval times, charcol on back=stone age. But they all work!

Sgourlayart
08-25-2012, 09:13 AM
LOL! LCD projector=modern day times, graphite tracing paper = medieval times, charcol on back=stone age. But they all work!
Another "stone age" but simple method is to take some powdered pigment (pastel dust) dispersed in alcohol and paint it on some tracing paper and use this like transfer paper. It can be used multiple times. Stu

Rosemarie
08-25-2012, 11:40 AM
Another "stone age" but simple method is to take some powdered pigment (pastel dust) dispersed in alcohol and paint it on some tracing paper and use this like transfer paper. It can be used multiple times. Stu
Thanks for the tip, Stu. I ended up using a soft pastel stick on the back side. Then I carefully draw the motif on to the pastel paper by using a coloured pencil (so I could see where I had and had not yet been drawing).

And here is MY TIP - Spray the pastel drawing with Spectrafix so the drawing wont smudge!

LADickerman
08-25-2012, 08:30 PM
I make my own tracing paper with charcoal, rubber cement thinner and tracing paper. I put masking tape around all the edges just to give it some stability and less likely to tear. They last a long time and you just add more charcoal and thinner to it when it starts to fade. I lived in the dark ages once upon time. LOL

Here is my painting from today...boy it always looks better until I photograph it. I'm really struggling with the building on the right. Any ideas other than starting over?:o

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Aug-2012/188330-Spanish_Mission_and_well.jpg

Lori Anne

Pinklady219
08-26-2012, 12:14 AM
To LAdickerman: I think it looks great. You even put a person in there. Nice pastel work. I'm going to post mine but it isn't finished. I need to tackle the right side yet and do some pastel work over this watercolor.

xli
08-26-2012, 12:46 AM
Hi, Jo, I did not have time to attend today's paint along. I am not sure if you have mentioned it during the class. I am really interested in how you did the merge of the three reference photoes into one. If you have mentioned it during the class, I will watch it later on, but if you did not touch this subject, could you tell me how did you do it? It is a very useful technique. There are so many times, I can see something is missing in a reference photo, but I did not know how to merge some other photo to make it perfect.

Rosemarie
08-26-2012, 01:56 AM
Hi, Jo, I did not have time to attend today's paint along. I am not sure if you have mentioned it during the class. I am really interested in how you did the merge of the three reference photoes into one. If you have mentioned it during the class, I will watch it later on, but if you did not touch this subject, could you tell me how did you do it? It is a very useful technique. There are so many times, I can see something is missing in a reference photo, but I did not know how to merge some other photo to make it perfect.

xli - this is a question for 18 august paint along. This time we just used one photo.

Johannes Instructor
08-26-2012, 12:00 PM
As promised at noon.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Aug-2012/135220-Finished-Pastel-Class3-800.jpg

pamshowcase
08-26-2012, 12:52 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Aug-2012/174457-P8260040.JPG

I decided at the last minute to paint when I saw that the video would be good,so sorry about the sloppy drawing Jo. Good class, I did WC with pastel detail on flowers. My photos always seem to intensify colors. Any tips?

Pam

Johannes Instructor
08-26-2012, 01:03 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Aug-2012/174457-P8260040.JPG

I decided at the last minute to paint when I saw that the video would be good,so sorry about the sloppy drawing Jo. Good class, I did WC with pastel detail on flowers. My photos always seem to intensify colors. Any tips?

Pam
Make a comparison with mine above.

mickisew
08-26-2012, 01:27 PM
Jo: Thank you for posting a photo of your painting so promptly. Your demonstration was excellent. Working in oil, I wiped off everything, started anew, and did a quick value under-painting last night. It looks like we will just get some typical tropical weather - we just don't need more rain - so it is a good day to paint when chores are done. Have a wonderful day. Micki

pamshowcase
08-26-2012, 01:32 PM
Thanks Jo, your colors are always subtle and wonderful no matters the medium. The harder I try for "clean color" the garish I get. Maybe others have the same problem...my original is not as bad as the photo but still I want to get it right. Any tips appreciated.
Pam

Am I choosing the wrong colors initially?

Johannes Instructor
08-26-2012, 02:54 PM
Thanks Jo, your colors are always subtle and wonderful no matters the medium. The harder I try for "clean color" the garish I get. Maybe others have the same problem...my original is not as bad as the photo but still I want to get it right. Any tips appreciated.
Pam

Am I choosing the wrong colors initially?
Your blue is quite raw and you repeated it in the flowers. Once you use blue in the background I would no longer use it in the other planes.

pamshowcase
08-26-2012, 09:39 PM
OK out came the spray bottle, VERY satisfying, take this bad painting.....going to glaze the BG with orange to neutralize that blue and redo the foliage on the center. Have to admit I am tempted to glaze rthe whole thing with weak violet or cobalt. Someone stop me...........
Probably will result starting over with new paper but it is so freeing to work this one to a fare-thee-well as grandma would say.

Pinklady219
08-26-2012, 10:28 PM
Okay, I think I'm done with this Paint-a-Long. I like it (surprising). This is totally watercolors. I have peppers drying near the door and used a Spanish tile roof. Thanks Joe, you showed me the path out of my 10 year slump. I'll be forever grateful. :thumbsup:

xli
08-27-2012, 12:07 AM
xli - this is a question for 18 august paint along. This time we just used one photo.

Thank you Rosemarie. I will take a look on August 18th's recording. I haven't have time to do the paintalong for several weeks. I am so greatful for those downloads. I can cattch up on Jo's lecture later on on my own time. Thank you again for your replay to my question.

Joyce Kulak
08-27-2012, 01:02 AM
Thank You Rosemaria that was a great tip for me.

HazelP
08-27-2012, 01:41 AM
Here is my effort for the 25th August Paintalong. 14 x 11 Pastel.

I love the Panpastels and finished of with sticks and pastel pencil.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2012/915542-My-Painting.jpg

Johannes Instructor
08-27-2012, 07:29 AM
Okay, I think I'm done with this Paint-a-Long. I like it (surprising). This is totally watercolors. I have peppers drying near the door and used a Spanish tile roof. Thanks Joe, you showed me the path out of my 10 year slump. I'll be forever grateful. :thumbsup:
This is the best painting I have seen from you.

gourdalicious
08-27-2012, 10:42 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2012/990382-Aug_25_Paintalong_800x603.jpg

Thank you Jo for the great class! Took a little time tonight to attempt and complete what I could not do in class. 10.5 X14 pan pastel on tinted (grn) paper.

Johannes Instructor
08-28-2012, 12:17 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2012/990382-Aug_25_Paintalong_800x603.jpg

Thank you Jo for the great class! Took a little time tonight to attempt and complete what I could not do in class. 10.5 X14 pan pastel on tinted (grn) paper.
Way to go. Looks good!

Linda Reyes1959
08-30-2012, 03:53 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Aug-2012/978726-002.JPG I loved this paint-a-long. Only have the painting set, (Pan Pastels) no tints or shades. Hope by the next class I will have the rest.

Johannes Instructor
08-30-2012, 03:59 PM
Wow! I am seeing some neat stuff. This paint along really works.

pamshowcase
08-31-2012, 01:53 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2012/174457-Mission_2.jpg
Reworked my WC, and I am much happier with it now. Thanks for help.
Pam

susanc
09-01-2012, 11:38 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2012/1697-mission.jpg
I think this thread needs at least one token oil posting, so this is my attempt at the scene.

Now I can see that the blue in the roof is so strong, it looks like holes instead of sky reflection! My favorite part is over the largest adobe arch because I didn't overwork it. That's 1/9th of the painting--not bad!

susanc
09-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Wow! I am seeing some neat stuff. This paint along really works.

Johannes is awfully busy, so I'm helping him out by posting this comment again so that it applies to all the incredible works that were posted even after he wrote it.
And he's so busy, we don't need to bother him and let him know about this post, either...:)

hanksgam
09-05-2012, 01:47 PM
Finally finished the pastel. Had such fun doing it.
Any comments or critiques are welcome. Now on to the street scene! Pastel or Watercolor, that is the question!
Randi

painterted
09-05-2012, 03:07 PM
Finally finished the hosanna, and changed a few things around. I also played around with the shadows using 4 different colors. They are not to realistic but I sure like the way it puts color into the painting.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Sep-2012/909312-P1010005.jpg

Tonalist
09-05-2012, 04:05 PM
WoW Ted... very nice again! I do enjoy the extra color you have put in there... very pleasing.

woody

sewnsew43
09-23-2012, 03:33 PM
This is a bit late for posting but I am way behind in the paintalongs. I also get lousy photos from my cheap camera :( and the darks seem to loose their intensity. I used pastel sticks for this. I have so many sticks that I cannot justify getting the pans so I will use up some of my sticks first.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Sep-2012/130719-100_0546.JPG

LADickerman
09-25-2012, 10:55 PM
wow painterted...I love your watercolor. I love the looseness and the colors in the shadows. The foreground wall almost looks like shadows of leaves on it. Very nice.

chalet_dor
09-26-2012, 02:04 AM
Judy

Thanks so much for posting. Your painting is beautiful! Smiles to you dor:))

Rosemarie
10-02-2012, 01:26 PM
Here is my version. I feel that I should do something more but I don't know what. Anyone is welcome to comment. Some subtle warm colours are lost in the uploaded image :(
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Oct-2012/2623-DSCN1539korrigers.jpg

chalet_dor
10-02-2012, 01:48 PM
Dear Rosemarie

Sign it! Frame it, then hang it, sell, it or give it to someone you love.........Smiles to you, and oh by the way, it is beautiful........: ))

Rosemarie
10-02-2012, 01:58 PM
You are such a positive, energetic and warm dear, Dor! Many hugs to you!:cat:

Sgourlayart
10-02-2012, 11:49 PM
Here is my version. I feel that I should do something more but I don't know what. Anyone is welcome to comment. Some subtle warm colours are lost in the uploaded image :(
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Oct-2012/2623-DSCN1539korrigers.jpg
Rosemarie, warm up your sunlit areas.Think French Riviera, not Baltic Coast. Do this particularly on the walls of the Mission. And use a warm yellow, like cad yellow deep, quinacridone gold,etc. Nice work but it just reads real cold to me. Stu

Rosemarie
10-03-2012, 12:52 AM
Rosemarie, warm up your sunlit areas.Think French Riviera, not Baltic Coast. Do this particularly on the walls of the Mission. And use a warm yellow, like cad yellow deep, quinacridone gold,etc. Nice work but it just reads real cold to me. Stu
You are so right, Stu, but the camera didn't pick up the the warm colours (tints) in the buildings. They just look grey in the photo. The PanPastel don't have cadmiums or quinacridones but I can us some more yellow ochre than I have.

lildip
10-11-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm curious, is this a scene from San juan Capistrano? somewhere I saw a picture so much like this and have been unable to relocate that picture. anyone know about it? thanks inadvance. Lildop

Wetpaint0938
10-11-2012, 07:21 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Oct-2012/980416-mission.jpg My first try at pan pastels 11x8.5

chalet_dor
10-12-2012, 12:28 AM
Hi Barb
Your are doing very nice work with your pan pastels. Looks like you are happy with them! Smiles to you......... : ))

paintncook
10-13-2012, 11:35 AM
Rosemarie, warm up your sunlit areas.Think French Riviera, not Baltic Coast. Do this particularly on the walls of the Mission. And use a warm yellow, like cad yellow deep, quinacridone gold,etc. Nice work but it just reads real cold to me. Stu
Yes, Stu, that is exactly what I thought the very first thing - buildings need warmth!
Rosemarie, it doesn't matter what the photo looks like. Remember what Johannes always says - pay no attention to photos for colors!!
I'm enjoying the Fall color now in the Ozarks. The colors are just now popping out! Am spending time watching the Johannes courses on landscapes now.
Kathy

Rosemarie
10-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Kathy, you are right. It is a pity that cameras can't quite reproduce the colours.

Sgourlayart
10-13-2012, 08:14 PM
Kathy, you are right. It is a pity that cameras can't quite reproduce the colours.Rosemarie, if that color is really in there, why don't you play around with your saturation in your photoeditor or change the light you are photographing it with. I usually try and shoot my paintings on an overcast day in the shade near the middle of the day and place a piece of very white paper off one edge; I then set my "tint" or color balance on the white paper and crop the photo; last, I will adjust my saturation, brightness and contrast. Stu